I'm also wondering about what's really the goal of the masternode voting that seems to be the big Dash initiative now.
Since Otoh alone owns around 28% of the masternodes, which were either directly instamined or purchased directly from an instaminer, he alone has about 40% of the voting power according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapley%2dShubik_power_index
When we add the likely holdings of Evan and other insiders it looks like the voting concept is just a sham to whitewash the centralized control of a few people over the whole scheme.
Topic: Dash's Instamined/Partly Premined Beginnings (Read 2653 times)
A good question to ask you now, is that since we now know that someone(otoh?) owns 11% of Dash/Darkcoins coin supply, and has inputs dating back from the original Dash/Darkcoin instamine scam, how do you feel about that?
So he has bought coins from someone who mined on the first day(s)? Must be scam..
It's also odd to note that in the Dash main thread, Otoh claimed this address( https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/wallet.dws?559582.htm) was his and said he made it "as obvious as possible", yet when I did multiple searches with this address to find any connections to it and him, I found 0. So it's either that address that owns 11% of the Dash coin supply is not owned by Otoh and he's trying to cover it up, he mistyped somehow, or he's plain out lying for some other reason.
Lovely distribution btw /s.
Lovely distribution btw /s.
Every other coin's thread is cheering when someone is dumping because coins are getting into "strong hands". And now that DASH has a strong hand, it's a scam?
Really? Otoh said that he didn't start buying until "long after" the instamine has occured. But, you're now saying that he bought coins from someone who mined on the first day? Are you implying that Otoh bought relatively quickly after the instamine occured(Maybe even during the instamine) ?
Either way, the stories don't add up as what Otoh said goes directly against what's shown(or not shown) when I searched for any connections between the address and him previously. It might all be a mistyping on his part, but fishy nonetheless.
A good question to ask you now, is that since we now know that someone(otoh?) owns 11% of Dash/Darkcoins coin supply, and has inputs dating back from the original Dash/Darkcoin instamine scam, how do you feel about that?
So he has bought coins from someone who mined on the first day(s)? Must be scam..
At best, it is quite different from story about the coins being "well distributed in the market" that is frequently told.
A good question to ask you now, is that since we now know that someone(otoh?) owns 11% of Dash/Darkcoins coin supply, and has inputs dating back from the original Dash/Darkcoin instamine scam, how do you feel about that?
So he has bought coins from someone who mined on the first day(s)? Must be scam..
It's also odd to note that in the Dash main thread, Otoh claimed this address( https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/wallet.dws?559582.htm) was his and said he made it "as obvious as possible", yet when I did multiple searches with this address to find any connections to it and him, I found 0. So it's either that address that owns 11% of the Dash coin supply is not owned by Otoh and he's trying to cover it up, he mistyped somehow, or he's plain out lying for some other reason.
Lovely distribution btw /s.
Lovely distribution btw /s.
Every other coin's thread is cheering when someone is dumping because coins are getting into "strong hands". And now that DASH has a strong hand, it's a scam?
coins101 lying again, the thing he does best. Let's take a look and see if that that thread has a self moderated tag:
https://i.imgur.com/YWDUA6x.png
Nope, it doesn't.
"Facts? Truth? Who needs them?" -- paraphrasing coins101
lol
No,
You led Smooth & the gang to this self-moderated thread.
The Truth? You can't handle the truth.
lol
I made it moderated to stop off-topic discussion. So far I have deleted 0 posts and you can get a moderator to confirm. In other threads similar, you and your trolling gang spam the thread with off-topic/irrelevant posts.
A good question to ask you now, is that since we now know that someone(otoh?) owns 11% of Dash/Darkcoins coin supply, and has inputs dating back from the original Dash/Darkcoin instamine scam, how do you feel about that?
It's also odd to note that in the Dash main thread, Otoh claimed this address( https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/wallet.dws?559582.htm) was his and said he made it "as obvious as possible", yet when I did multiple searches with this address to find any connections to it and him, I found 0. So it's either that address that owns 11% of the Dash coin supply is not owned by Otoh and he's trying to cover it up, he mistyped somehow, or he's plain out lying for some other reason.
Lovely distribution btw /s.
Maybe people are finally waking up to this massive pre/insta-mine scam and huge rip off.
And maybe you're in your pyjamas by now hoping so.
Been a long day. There's always tomorrow.
I'm obsessed with Monero and spam off-topic about it constantly on threads about Dash
Let's try to get back on topic
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Dash -7.05%
Maybe people are finally waking up to this massive pre/insta-mine scam and huge rip off.
coins101 lying again, the thing he does best. Let's take a look and see if that that thread has a self moderated tag:
https://i.imgur.com/YWDUA6x.png
Nope, it doesn't.
"Facts? Truth? Who needs them?" -- paraphrasing coins101
lol
No,
You led Smooth & the gang to this self-moderated thread.
The Truth? You can't handle the truth.
lol
coins101 lying again, the thing he does best. Let's take a look and see if that that thread has a self moderated tag:
https://i.imgur.com/YWDUA6x.png
Nope, it doesn't.
"Facts? Truth? Who needs them?" -- paraphrasing coins101
lol.
Didn't like the truth about the Proven Monero Scam being in an un-moderated thread, so moves to self-moderated thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11256729
lol
Didn't like the truth about the Proven Monero Scam being in an un-moderated thread, so moves to self-moderated thread.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11256729
lol
In the end of course we decided to honor the social contract and not slow down emissions
Thats nice of you, but I can get what you're selling at any emission rate I like over here. (And it even shows who paid me
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Monero
What does that have to do with the OP?
Plz stay on the topic of "Dash's Instamined/Partly Premined Beginnings" or GTFO. Thx.
Great volume today for Monero
14 Monero $ 3,706,636 $ 0.499220 7,424,855 XMR $ 14,325 -3.19 %
Seems like Monero developers really working hard...NOT cry"p"to forums perhaps more since that's all what they can do?
14 Monero $ 3,706,636 $ 0.499220 7,424,855 XMR $ 14,325 -3.19 %
Seems like Monero developers really working hard...NOT cry"p"to forums perhaps more since that's all what they can do?
... can't succeed
LoL ! You wish.
I think your newfound buzzword "social contract"'s got you a bit over excited.
When/If crypto gets regulated currencies like Dash would obviously not suceed anywhere. Scams like what happened with Dash dont usually work well with the average person adoption.
Then to make things even worse, there's still an address with inputs connected to the original instamine, and that address currently owns 11% of all Dash in existence: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/wallet.dws?559582.htm.
So now we can undeniably say that Dash/Darkcoin's distribution after the instamine is horrible.
Dash is simply a scam, the evidence is absolutely overwhelming.
... can't succeed
LoL ! You wish.
I think your newfound buzzword "social contract"'s got you a bit over excited.
When/If crypto gets regulated currencies like Dash would obviously not suceed anywhere. Scams like what happened with Dash dont usually work well with the average person adoption.
Then to make things even worse, there's still an address with inputs connected to the original instamine, and that address currently owns 11% of all Dash in existence: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/wallet.dws?559582.htm.
So now we can undeniably say that Dash/Darkcoin's distribution after the instamine is horrible.
Dash is simply a scam, the evidence is absolutely overwhelming.
I bet Evan sees these kind of threads and thinks, damn these guys are denting my master get super rich quick plans. Dash shills have nothing but to attack Monero to justify this scam
Heh and then there is some of us who thinks both Evan AND the Monero guys are shady.
I think satoshi is shady too
I bet Evan sees these kind of threads and thinks, damn these guys are denting my master get super rich quick plans. Dash shills have nothing but to attack Monero to justify this scam
Heh and then there is some of us who thinks both Evan AND the Monero guys are shady.
I bet Evan sees these kind of threads and thinks, damn these guys are denting my master get super rich quick plans. Dash shills have nothing but to attack Monero to justify this scam
I doubt Evan even care's to replay he's busy working you know more less talk more action? but I guess u and ur dev's don't get that since nothing to copy cat from for now. And lol at Dash attacking Monero when every day for the past two months Monero trolls create a whole thread with same ppl with new accounts popping up typing the same thing over and over again where is ur logic? stop you're toxic ways and start adding something positive to crypto for ONCE or you can continue copying other coins and HOPE that people buy you're most beloved coin.
I bet Evan sees these kind of threads and thinks, damn these guys are denting my master get super rich quick plans. Dash shills have nothing but to attack Monero to justify this scam
... can't succeed
LoL ! You wish.
I think your newfound buzzword "social contract"'s got you a bit over excited.
Really now. It seems the concept of social contract has been well known in the Monero community for some time
3. This causes no permanent change so it has less "social contract" issues. Once the end of the flattening period is reached everything is just exactly as it always was. This is probably the positive action that can be taken with the least reputation harm. Not zero necessarily, but everything else is worse.
I'm still undecided on whether anything should be changed.
I'm still undecided on whether anything should be changed.
In the end of course we decided to honor the social contract and not slow down emissions, unlike Dash. It was never even under consideration to do a blatant money grab for early adopters by slashing the money supply. That's obscene.
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