Topic: Dating and pick up counseling -donationware- (Read 1843 times)

Here's something that took me a while to understand. I was under impression that I should be able to get any girl I wanted. More importantly, if I was shooting for a sophisticated girl, then I should be able to attract any lesser one no problem.
But that is impossible, because many girls will not be able to value what you got because they lack the background and knowledge, or like different things. As well, you can not attract a girl that has achieved significantly more than you.

You can only attract a girl that is comparable to you. So don't feel offended upon rejection. Just realize that it must be right that its not meant to be. Only the right girl will "resonate" with you. I find that girls responses are a pretty good "litmus" test for weather they would value you or not.

Although I know that it was just for the lulz, I will address the previous comment as serious because it is one of the main misconceptions that males have, deep within.

Step 1 influential but not essential. Actually, to be accurate, enough money to be self-sufficient, autonomous and being independent, which translates to security which in turn are signs of maturity. That's what girls really dig, the amount of money beyond that is not really important, unless you are targetting gold diggers. ie. if you made a million dollars but still living with your parents, I can bet all my bitcoins that you'll have a tough time attracting quality dates.
Step 2 is not essential AT ALL. Ironically guys are more obsessed with big dicks than girls. Go figure.
AND also it is impossible to make your dick bigger naturally (ointment, massages, pills, etc...), stop listening to infomercial craps and don't believe what you see in porn, they are preying on one's insecurity... the only somewhat reliable way of making it bigger is with surgeries doesn't actually guarantee a permanent long penis, and even worse, they can leave you limp for life and incapable of achieving orgasms. Big, dead and insensitive, are the potential outcome that you would get. If it works, just leave it. Having a small dick and a huge self-confidence, makes you still an attractive person.
In fact, every defect that you may have, even the physical ones, may be a big advantage if you know how to reframe it properly. It is how you look at things what defines things.

Cheers

What a good idea.

I have my own method that I would like to share. It very different to what I think the OP is offering. I think the 2 things complement each other well. I have for brief moments felt the feeling of being in that moment and in demand. That's not what I want to teach here. This is something different. For me it has been more modest; ego doesn't work with it.

I want to share how I met my partners because it has really changed my outlook in life. I too also don't want to charge any money for it up front. The reason for this is because I don't think there's much need. If it works for you as it has done for me you will feel so happy that frankly I can't see why anyone wouldn't want to acknowledge that happiness and say thank you.

If you fancy giving this a go just send me a PM with your Skype and what kind of time to call you on UTC time and I'll talk you through it.

Peace

 -j

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Good Luck!

How many times do I have to say it to make you understand that I agree with you? Please re-read what I wrote, having in mind that I am agreeing with you all the way.
And all I am saying is that being a douche is obviously idiotic, "neg" without considering the context (or lack of context) is plain suicide.

The responses to this "pick-up counselor" has restored my faith in humanity just bit.

It's teasing when they know you're joking, it's being a douchebag when you tell someone that "it's great they're finally going on a diet"

I am telling you that using negging with that mindset is counterproductive, especially for newbies.
Teasing is negging in disguise and it is the smooth way of executing it.
In any case I am against the concept of negging as reducing self confidence, but as a way of inducing banter.

The proper definition would be that negging is to increase her self-awareness, but the moment you touch their self-esteem you are done for the night.
If you go in with the mentality of reducing confidence, you'll end up offending your targets.
Please refrain from regurgitating the Mystery Method crap.

Negging isn't "playfullness", it's sole purpose is to reduce self confidence. Flirting is the "shortcut" you're talking about, because it shows interest.

"main goal is to reduce their self confidence", nope, that's not the main goal.
Thinking it that way, I agree, it is very negative and those are the jerks who pursue control and manipulation.
It is a big red flag, indeed.

The actual goal is not to make her feel insecure, it is about creating a shortcut to the feeling of closeness, confidence and intimacy.
It is counter-intuitive, but think about it for a minute. There is a saying that says: a good friend will say you did good, but your best friend will tell you that you sucked.

Looking for control is bad for your soul, but looking for playfulness is good. It is more about being playful, rather than a jerk.
From the outside the techniques might look similar, but it is the intention and the delivery what really makes the difference.

Step 1: Make a lot of money

Step 2: Grow a large penis

Step 3: Show her the results of Steps 1 and 2.

If you want shallow you can have it.

This is exactly what they're talking about. You're not talking about how to get someone to like you, you're talking about how to go fishing, catch a fish, rape it in the mouth, and throw it back. It's not "teasing playfully" if your main goal is to reduce their self confidence so they'll settle for you.

trolls gonna troll

If it is a general inquiry, please share it with us. If it is private issue, send me a pm.

I would be interested in learning more about this thx.

I've helped thousands of people in real life, men and women to improve their love life and find their significant other.
Try me, come back later if you have a real question.

hey op are you making money? you have some serious insight bro... /end joke

Hah, I love that xkcd strip, first time seeing it.
First of all I want to address the dehumanizing aspect of pick-up artists: yup, I agree to that to some point.
It is dehumanizing if you are actively exploiting it to manipulate women. If picking up women becomes a sport, there is something definitely wrong. There is a very fine line of between being a playboy and being a psychopath, which I might expand later if anyone is interested.

Now regarding to what the "female" character says in that strip, that's precisely the focus of my philosophy. It is about changing who you are, and self-improvement is something absolutely doable. If rats can be taught to ride skateboards, I believe it is very depressing to think that humans don't have the ability to improve our skills. And social skills are still a skill, and it is learnable.
This isn't about techniques, methods and systems. Those prepackaged stuff are bound to fail, whats more, I suspect that they are designed to fail.

The main capital sin of the pick-up artist literature is that they treat women as one homogeneous group, so if you put in practice X method they promise it will work.
The second problem is that some are encouraging denial and self-deception: if it fails, don't waste time on her you will find another one, so don't get attached anyway.
So most of them encourage you to become this big asshole who will end up attracting easy girls who are really easy to get laid with, others implicitly try to train you to get sophisticated bimbos with daddy issues. Most methods unwittingly are designed with a particular type of girl in mind. What these so called "pickup artists" ignore is that every girl belongs to a particular type of subculture and these experts who were successful with these type of girls, inadvertently they force you to become like them and join their subculture, which you may not belong.

I consider that you must achieve your full potential according to who you are as a person, as yourself, otherwise you will end up lying to yourself and end up hurting your potential significant other.
In short, don't follow methods blindly without a self-examination of who you are, acknowledge the limitations that you have, and envision what you want to become. That's the essential first step to actual self-improvement, and the first step to develop your own methods.

Now responding to the users:
If girls hit on you first, probably you are good looking or at least above average.
What is really important though, is your self-confidence. If someone lacks self-confidence, it doesn't matter how you treat women, they will not feel attracted to you and you'll be considered a friend, not a lover or a partner.
In any case, if you don't have problems with your love life, good for you.
But that rule of thumb is not applicable to everyone, especially to those who lack basic social skills and experience with the opposite sex.

That is a very good direct approach. I encourage this a lot.
Although it may sound counter-intuitive, women find this very bold and they get very flattered. She might reject you, but she will not forget you... but this style must be congruent with your personality.

Now before finishing this post, I would like to make a comment regarding to "negs". I hate that term because it misleads people.
It is not about being an asshole, it is about teasing playfully. That's the safest way of throwing a girl from her pedestal, and at the same time being safe of not offending her. You may use dry negs afterwards, if you know what you are doing, but don't abuse it and never repeat a neg.

Try this:

Hi! My name is (Douchebag), what is your name? (Wait for her to answer dont be a douche, if she gives you her name then continue) I find you attractive and outgoing with a beautiful smile and I would like to get to know you and if you are interested, here is my number (give piece of paper to her dont be a douche).