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Topic: Dawkins: Immoral Not To Abort Down’s Syndrome Child - page 3. (Read 5927 times)

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Wilikon, the first example of eugenics comes from God, in Genesis, when he cleanses the world of "wickedness", Noah's flood, the water symbolizes cleansing the world.

So it is OK for eugenics to play God, especially when they are atheists like dawkins (not saying he believes in eugenics but...)?

"If God did it in a book of fiction I don't believe in, that gives me the right to do it and impose my self indulged righteousness upon others!"

Yep. Thank you for using the Bible as an example for what dawkins believes...  Grin Cheesy Grin



That wasn't what I was implying, I'm just saying that it is a poor argument from the religious folk.

I researched a lot on Eugenics last year, and it turns out, the religious did it the most.

I did not know adolph was such a religious dude, when most know how passionate he felt about eugenics and trying so hard to keep his score on top of the killing pyramid...

But you may be right: religious folks did worse than him and his belief in Übermensch, based on your research last year...  Roll Eyes


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Wilikon, the first example of eugenics comes from God, in Genesis, when he cleanses the world of "wickedness", Noah's flood, the water symbolizes cleansing the world.

So it is OK for eugenics to play God, especially when they are atheists like dawkins (not saying he believes in eugenics but...)?

"If God did it in a book of fiction I don't believe in, that gives me the right to do it and impose my self indulged righteousness upon others!"

Yep. Thank you for using the Bible as an example for what dawkins believes...  Grin Cheesy Grin



That wasn't what I was implying, I'm just saying that it is a poor argument from the religious folk.

I researched a lot on Eugenics last year, and it turns out, the religious did it the most.
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Wilikon, the first example of eugenics comes from God, in Genesis, when he cleanses the world of "wickedness", Noah's flood, the water symbolizes cleansing the world.

So it is OK for eugenics to play God, especially when they are atheists like dawkins (not saying he believes in eugenics but...)?

"If God did it in a book of fiction I don't believe in, that gives me the right to do it and impose my self indulged righteousness upon others!"

Yep. Thank you for using the Bible as an example for what dawkins believes...  Grin Cheesy Grin

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Wilikon, the first example of eugenics comes from God, in Genesis, when he cleanses the world of "wickedness", Noah's flood, the water symbolizes cleansing the world.
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If you do not believe in God, you can do abortion.

So you are alive because your parents believed in God?



You "can" perform an abortion, he never suggested you "must" carry out an abortion


So if you do not believe in God you have much much more freedom to decide to abort or not your DS baby. If you believe in God you are forcing the parents and society the burden of a child no one wanted. Interesting


Eugenics:
is the belief and practice of improving the genetic quality of the human population. It is a social philosophy advocating the improvement of human genetic traits through the promotion of higher reproduction of people with desired traits (positive eugenics), and reduced reproduction of people with less-desired or undesired traits (negative eugenics)


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If you do not believe in God, you can do abortion.

So you are alive because your parents believed in God?



You "can" perform an abortion, he never suggested you "must" carry out an abortion
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If you do not believe in God, you can do abortion.

So you are alive because your parents believed in God?

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If you do not believe in God, you can do abortion.
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NO! I will not do that if it was me.. The thing is, its your own child. Youre going to kill him/her?

Pain receptors are formed in a baby within seven weeks. Abortions beyond that point better be worth it.
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NO! I will not do that if it was me.. The thing is, its your own child. Youre going to kill him/her?
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I know some people with Down's Syndrome and they are friendly, kind, and caring. It comes down to whether your are pro-abortion or pro-life.


The subject is too massive to talk about. I dont believe that it all comes down to whether if you are pro abortion or pro life. There is a lot to consider. How about if both parents die, how will the child live? He couldnt get a job or what. There is a lot to consider.

That's fallacious
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading
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I know some people with Down's Syndrome and they are friendly, kind, and caring. It comes down to whether your are pro-abortion or pro-life.


The subject is too massive to talk about. I dont believe that it all comes down to whether if you are pro abortion or pro life. There is a lot to consider. How about if both parents die, how will the child live? He couldnt get a job or what. There is a lot to consider.

How about if both parents die, how will the child live? He couldnt get a job or what. There is a lot to consider.

So there is a need to kill the child in case the parents die in a car accident maybe in the future? Nice.

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Abort it and try again?

That is an absolutely disgusting word choice, he could have certainly phrased it better than that
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I know some people with Down's Syndrome and they are friendly, kind, and caring. It comes down to whether your are pro-abortion or pro-life.


The subject is too massive to talk about. I dont believe that it all comes down to whether if you are pro abortion or pro life. There is a lot to consider. How about if both parents die, how will the child live? He couldnt get a job or what. There is a lot to consider.

That is still your son/daughter. Your blood. Can you imagine putting an end to the life of your own child?
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I know some people with Down's Syndrome and they are friendly, kind, and caring. It comes down to whether your are pro-abortion or pro-life.


The subject is too massive to talk about. I dont believe that it all comes down to whether if you are pro abortion or pro life. There is a lot to consider. How about if both parents die, how will the child live? He couldnt get a job or what. There is a lot to consider.

Yeah, but still it all boils down if you are pro abortion or pro life
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I know some people with Down's Syndrome and they are friendly, kind, and caring. It comes down to whether your are pro-abortion or pro-life.


The subject is too massive to talk about. I dont believe that it all comes down to whether if you are pro abortion or pro life. There is a lot to consider. How about if both parents die, how will the child live? He couldnt get a job or what. There is a lot to consider.
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And your opinions are worth about as much as your feelings. You just seem to have some stock responses that you just like to copy and paste over and over. I don't really know what facts I've got to argue here either, but I see I'm not going to get anything enlightening out of you, especially after seeing the post you just quoted.

Of course, leave it up to fools to not understand the difference between facts and opinions Smiley

Enlighten yourself with what's difficult to hear, instead of chasing after convenient lies. Too hard to get it through your thick ass skull? Or do you need someone to repeat themselves because you lack the ability to understand what's in front of you?

Lol, the irony once again. You clearly don't know the difference between facts and opinions. Posting irrelevant nonsense and coming out with childishness isn't the way to win an argument but you sadly seem to think it is, it just makes me pity you even more, so keep trying.

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Conception is not dependent upon your feelings. Hard to understand?

That's a fact. Get the idea?



And morals or this argument arent dependent on your feelings either, but again, you seem to be confusing your opinions with facts.
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Why is it immoral? Killing an innocent child is immoral. Dawkins should fill up an ISIS application form

Unfair for the child. He will suffer for the rest of his/her life

How is the child suffering?
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well I'll give a reason: fat babies don't always grow up to be fat people but down babies always grow up to be down people. your ball.
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I wonder if Dawkins Moral Implication could be applied to this subject....  Wink

 



Obesity is a much bigger burden on society. Why not let fat baby die?

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