Just on someones activity basis you can't make someones trust graph OP. DdmrDdmr have enough quality to be at DT1 and able to bear DT responsibility IMO. I beleive his contribution to forum is good enough where he didn't commited scam, spam or any illegal activities which can rise question about trust judgement.
Its not important to have so many members in DT list where I think its much necessary how many of them are doing their duties properly.
Topic: Ddmrddmr on DT1 (Read 688 times)
rouge lol
rouge or rogue?
Not sure if the pun was intended, but it's a good one nonetheless
Regarding OP, I guess you misunderstood from the beginning what a DT1 is.
There are no obligations attached to being DT.
- You get "elected"
- If your judgement is off you get excluded.
2 simple and unique rules. Apply them to Ddmr and you have your answer.
Note: By the way, a way to upper the requirements a notch could be to take into account the number of people that have merited the person in the DT votes. It’s not exactly the same having earned 10 merits from a single person than from at least 5 different people. [/i]
This needs a bump!
BPIP already does this - counts the instances of sMerit given, not the sum.
This is one extra layer of protection in case a merit source goes rouge lol
DdmrDdmr is one of the most valuable members on this forum, no doubt about that.
Not being a regular trader doesn't mean you can't spot scammers effectively. Besides, one of DT membres duties is to tag SCAM ICOs, hacked/sold accounts(...) which doesn't require any trading experience.
The only inconvenience here is that he is not that active in tagging scammers.
Not being a regular trader doesn't mean you can't spot scammers effectively. Besides, one of DT membres duties is to tag SCAM ICOs, hacked/sold accounts(...) which doesn't require any trading experience.
The only inconvenience here is that he is not that active in tagging scammers.
I disagree with the OP, posting feedback have almost nothing to do with begin DT1.
We mix again the Trust with Feedback.
Most important is his trust list and the way he judge whom to trust or distrust ,also being able to include or exclude members and keep an eye on the rest of the DT members, then comes the feedback.
If Ddmr2 trusts someone (or a few) who dedicates his time to tag scammers, and this guy is on DT2 because of him then Ddmr2 is more valuable then the few feedback he could have done himself.
We mix again the Trust with Feedback.
Most important is his trust list and the way he judge whom to trust or distrust ,also being able to include or exclude members and keep an eye on the rest of the DT members, then comes the feedback.
If Ddmr2 trusts someone (or a few) who dedicates his time to tag scammers, and this guy is on DT2 because of him then Ddmr2 is more valuable then the few feedback he could have done himself.
+1. There is no need to be in DT if you don't make trades or tag accounts when needed.
It's not like the number of spots in DT2 is limited. It can equally well accommodate those who trade and tag a lot, and those who post a well thought-out rating once in a while.
I meant 'DT1', edited my post
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+1. There is no need to be in DT if you don't make trades or tag accounts when needed.
It's not like the number of spots in DT2 is limited. It can equally well accommodate those who trade and tag a lot, and those who post a well thought-out rating once in a while.
+1. There is no need to be in DT if you don't make trades or tag accounts when needed.
I disagree with that. One doesn't really need to be on a DT because they do trades on bitcointalk. The trust feedback left after successful trades by other traders speaks for them. Such feedback is enough for other members to consider them trustworthy. A suitable DT candidate should be the one that actively contributes to the forum, tags accounts as you said and helps in cleaning the forum off scammers. One can just be here for the trades and not spend enough time to do anything that helps the rest of the community. I don't think we want such members on the DT. I do not trade here, nor likely will, and tagging accounts is perhaps not something I will feel the urge to do
I think this is a pretty strong argument for someone not to be in DT (1 or 2). If someone does not trade and is not a participant in the trust system, I see little benefit in the person being in the DT network. The drawbacks to someone like this being in the DT network come with the risk the person somehow gets involved in shenanigans in which very inappropriate ratings are left (and go unnoticed).+1. There is no need to be in DT1 if you don't make trades or tag accounts when needed.
Personally I don't expect DTs to spend their entire time giving feedbacks.
As long as DdmrDdmr is fair in the ones he gives, I have no issue with him being DT.
As long as DdmrDdmr is fair in the ones he gives, I have no issue with him being DT.
I do not trade here, nor likely will, and tagging accounts is perhaps not something I will feel the urge to do
I think this is a pretty strong argument for someone not to be in DT (1 or 2).It's not. The main criteria should be the person's judgement, not the number of ratings they post, and there is no reason to think that DdmrDdmr's judgement is not fit for DT.
I do not trade here, nor likely will, and tagging accounts is perhaps not something I will feel the urge to do
I think this is a pretty strong argument for someone not to be in DT (1 or 2). If someone does not trade and is not a participant in the trust system, I see little benefit in the person being in the DT network. The drawbacks to someone like this being in the DT network come with the risk the person somehow gets involved in shenanigans in which very inappropriate ratings are left (and go unnoticed).
I don't see any issue here. The system will benefit from having a wide range of members who make up DT1. I welcome this inclusion more so than some of the trigger happy members you see trying to get into DT1 for whatever reason.
I've removed default trust from my list to experiment for a while. I went through Ddmrddmr's trust list and didn't see anyone I would disagree with being on DT2. This is where a member like Ddmrddmr is great. Considering they like to work in facts and numbers lead me to believe they will be well reasoned in who they add or exclude.
More to your original questions OP, nothing wrong with asking that's how you learn. From my point of view any number of users with a varying degree of activity on the forum and with sending feedback can wind up in the system. It just depends on who sees value in either the small amount of feedback they have left, or who's trust list you also like/agree with.
I would say consider that in building your own trust list, don't just go with the longest list of feedback left. There are a lot of tools now to help you dig deepeer and decide who you want in your list.
I've removed default trust from my list to experiment for a while. I went through Ddmrddmr's trust list and didn't see anyone I would disagree with being on DT2. This is where a member like Ddmrddmr is great. Considering they like to work in facts and numbers lead me to believe they will be well reasoned in who they add or exclude.
More to your original questions OP, nothing wrong with asking that's how you learn. From my point of view any number of users with a varying degree of activity on the forum and with sending feedback can wind up in the system. It just depends on who sees value in either the small amount of feedback they have left, or who's trust list you also like/agree with.
I would say consider that in building your own trust list, don't just go with the longest list of feedback left. There are a lot of tools now to help you dig deepeer and decide who you want in your list.
I consider Ddmrddmr a trusted person but I did not add him to my trust list because he was neutral in feedback, I added many people who are active in the market section and campaigns so there is a balance in making decisions and tagging account.
I am glad to see him as DT1 member even if he doesn’t send too many feedback, his and other non-active members will equate to any future imbalance.
I am glad to see him as DT1 member even if he doesn’t send too many feedback, his and other non-active members will equate to any future imbalance.
Seems one of the more level headed, civil and mature meta board inhabitants.
Seems a sensible DT choice above 90% of the others on there.
It is not ALL about red trusting "apparent" scammers or about red trusting people who tell the truth. There are other good reasons to be on DT.
Seems a sensible DT choice above 90% of the others on there.
It is not ALL about red trusting "apparent" scammers or about red trusting people who tell the truth. There are other good reasons to be on DT.
I know Ddmrddmr isn't a-
Scammer
Spammer
Will not scam probably
Will act as DT member when needed.
To all the respected members who tried to point out these listed above-
I didn't mean this at all. I tried to point the fact that the way forum member uses DT inclusion/exclusion, Ddmrddmr isn't from the same. I didn't say a single time Ddmrddmr is scammer, or like to be scammer. He has contributed a lot for the forum, specially in the area of merit. The fact is merit doesn't refer to trust. I believe this statement has cleared up my point here.
Scammer
Spammer
Will not scam probably
Will act as DT member when needed.
To all the respected members who tried to point out these listed above-
I didn't mean this at all. I tried to point the fact that the way forum member uses DT inclusion/exclusion, Ddmrddmr isn't from the same. I didn't say a single time Ddmrddmr is scammer, or like to be scammer. He has contributed a lot for the forum, specially in the area of merit. The fact is merit doesn't refer to trust. I believe this statement has cleared up my point here.
I do not trade here, nor likely will, and tagging accounts is perhaps not something I will feel the urge to do
I think this is a pretty strong argument for someone not to be in DT (1 or 2). If someone does not trade and is not a participant in the trust system, I see little benefit in the person being in the DT network. The drawbacks to someone like this being in the DT network come with the risk the person somehow gets involved in shenanigans in which very inappropriate ratings are left (and go unnoticed).From what I have seen DdmrDdmr is a good forum member who contributes and helps others in many ways. If he wanted to start being a participant in the trust system, I would not be opposed to him being in the DT network if he shows he gives accurate and fair ratings.
AFAIK, they're logical, contribute statistically to the forum and make valid points.
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DdmrDdmr was the second user I added to my trust list after LoyceV. He isn't that active when it comes to leaving feedbacks but again that shouldn't be the only reason for we to trust someone like theymos said "the trust system is just a guide, don't make judgement just because an account is painted green or red, carryout personal research". I'm glad he's on the DT list, we just have to encourage him to participate more as he owes the forum some kind of duty now he's a DT member.
DdmrDdmr is surely an elite minded guy with tones of knowledge about the forum and specifically merit analyzing. Some of his best analysis have helped the community here in many ways and his contribution should surely be noted.
He is an great example for bounty spammers and for the once who think merits earning is impossible, to let them know what they can do if they try to contribute to the forum in positive way. He is one of the most merited users around here.
I surely support him being on the DT.
He is an great example for bounty spammers and for the once who think merits earning is impossible, to let them know what they can do if they try to contribute to the forum in positive way. He is one of the most merited users around here.
I surely support him being on the DT.
DdmrDdmr trusted and helpful member it is true no doubt she works always helpful activity all forum section, As a help here, his contribution may be many Although everyone tries to help a bit But he works with a lot of consciousness. I think he is a credible member like everyone else.
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