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Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too - page 284. (Read 1601343 times)

newbie
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Well, you just got another 1Gh/s added to your system Smiley I hate to say I'll only be mining on my main system for a few hours daily.

Anyway, so far it's looking like a fun, mildly competitive, and possibly profitable activity. I'm still a bit confused on exactly how I'm paid and how much, but I'll just run the miner as much as possible, and see what happens in a few days/weeks. In the mean time, what's the most efficient CUDA/OpenCL miner? I'm running a NVIDIA GTX 470 and right now the poclbm OpenCL miner seems to be doing a bit better than the RPC-CUDA miner I started with. I'm new to this, and the only experience I have with distributed computing is rainbow-tables and folding@home (I was/am rather active in the latter's community). Anyway, thanks for making a great system, and this is sort of my thanks to deepbit/intro to this forum.

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/8118/btc.png
hero member
Activity: 742
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I do like the feature that slush offers of being able to see the unconfirmed payout.
That's because all balance is always "confirmed" in deepbit :)

Maybe when I fix my older computer I can get another GPU online for mining :)  It is over four years old (Core2 Q6600, 5GB DDR2-800 RAM with PCIx x16) but will take an 6990 or a 6970 if I want
Core2 is not old, but CPU, RAM and PCIe lanes number doesn't matters for mining anyway :)
I would recommend 5970 instead of 6990 because it's almost twice as cheaper and in some cases may be faster (unless you have suitable drivers, OS and miner).
But if you want to sell it later, new card may be more suitable.

(note that PCI-X and PCIe are different things. But since PCI-X is very rare now it's not an issue :)

Thanks for your support :)
member
Activity: 98
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Instant payout shows up in my client in seconds.  Just a data point.  I am seeing a very small amount of stale shares, 7150 (0.11%), but that is MUCH lower than with the slush pool.  I need to do some comparisons between the pools on total payout however (and uptime of the site).
The difference in stale shares amount is caused by long polling support.

When comparing total payouts remember to take a long enough timeframe because luck deviation will affect measurements.

Yes I knew this was due to long polling; why isn't this used more widely I wonder?  I was thinking 20000 shares or maybe just 96 hours (Saturday at 4:20PM I would switch over I guess).  The difference in fees though is 3% for deepbit as opposed to 2% slush, correct?  It seems to me that the stale shares alone make that up.  If I start running and see stale shares get anywhere near 1%, I will end the test early.  I do like the feature that slush offers of being able to see the unconfirmed payout.   For me, I knew that eventually, my payout would be 9.99 and I set the payout limit one bit cent below that and it worked great, but with instant payout, it is sort of a non-issue [it is not as if I am going to pool jump anyway unless good reason suggests itself] and the need to do something like that, other than pool testing, would be rare.  I like both pools and want both to succeed. 

Maybe when I fix my older computer I can get another GPU online for mining Smiley  It is over four years old (Core2 Q6600, 5GB DDR2-800 RAM with PCIx x16) but will take an 6990 or a 6970 if I want [the case for that machine is actually better than my current case as far as ventilation goes, but more difficult to access internally or I would switch everything over to it.  I had to setup a UDP for my GPU fan to keep the GPU temp around 75-78C; I don't use fixed fan speeds as dust eventually necessitates altering that [or other heat generating hardware use] such that user defined fan curves are nice Smiley  The GPU fan is loud enough that with my case fans maxed out they seem quiet in comparison (GPU fan is at 51% currently).
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Instant payout shows up in my client in seconds.  Just a data point.  I am seeing a very small amount of stale shares, 7150 (0.11%), but that is MUCH lower than with the slush pool.  I need to do some comparisons between the pools on total payout however (and uptime of the site).
The difference in stale shares amount is caused by long polling support.

When comparing total payouts remember to take a long enough timeframe because luck deviation will affect measurements.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Instant payout shows up in my client in seconds.  Just a data point.  I am seeing a very small amount of stale shares, 7150 (0.11%), but that is MUCH lower than with the slush pool.  I need to do some comparisons between the pools on total payout however (and uptime of the site).
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Deepbit shows a payout of 0.5BTC.
My wallet shows a credit of 0.05BTC.
Am I missing something?
On the payouts page click on date and wallet links - you'll see the transaction itself and the log of operations with your wallet. Check the sum on those pages.
Hmm, looks like my address was wrong for some reason - may I hit new by mistake in my Bitcoin client
Does that means the coins are gone :(?
Update : I see the old address in my address book - maybe it's taking more than a few days to come through - I'l sit it out. Thanks for the quick response.
All your old addresses are still working.
Usually the transaction should appear in your bitcoin client instantly and receive first confirmation in 10 minutes (in rare cases up to one hour).
If you see this transaction in bitcoin block explorer then everything is fine.
newbie
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Deepbit shows a payout of 0.5BTC.
My wallet shows a credit of 0.05BTC.
Am I missing something?
On the payouts page click on date and wallet links - you'll see the transaction itself and the log of operations with your wallet. Check the sum on those pages.

Hmm, looks like my address was wrong for some reason - may I hit new by mistake in my Bitcoin client

Does that means the coins are gone Sad?

Update : I see the old address in my address book - maybe it's taking more than a few days to come through - I'l sit it out. Thanks for the quick response.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
the last 2 days were worst than ever Smiley
i guess pps would be better!
You should notice that both previous difficulty spans were more successful than usual - up to +15% reward for more than 2 weeks. Both positive and negative deviations are possible.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Wow!  It's been over three hours since the deepbit pool has found a block. 
Some other pool today had a block with more than a 1000000 shares in it. So it's possible and long blocks are encountered sometimes.
full member
Activity: 226
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the last 2 days were worst than ever Smiley
i guess pps would be better!
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Deepbit shows a payout of 0.5BTC.
My wallet shows a credit of 0.05BTC.
Am I missing something?
On the payouts page click on date and wallet links - you'll see the transaction itself and the log of operations with your wallet. Check the sum on those pages.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Also, after looking at my first nearly 24 hour period it looks like I'll be much better off using PPS with my single 6990.  For the past 22 hours I've used proportional and I've earned 2.78205276 BTC.  That seems pretty bad.  If I had used PPS, then right now I'd have about ~4 BTC [  (8300 shares) x (0.00048 BTC/share) = ~4 BTC].
That's because the pool luck today is lower than usual - PPS is more profitable in this case.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
Quick question from a Bitcoin Mining newbie.

Deepbit shows a payout of 0.5BTC.

My wallet shows a credit of 0.05BTC.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Rob
legendary
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Wow!  It's been over three hours since the deepbit pool has found a block. 
legendary
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Merit: 1001
Ok, I just started mining with deepbit, and this is my first shot at bitcoin mining.  I'm using my 6990 on an old AMD Athlon 64x2 system (4200+, specifically).  I'm getting ~220 per GPU core.  That seems low for a 6990, and I wonder if the Athlon CPU is holding my GPU back.  Any advice?  I'm running on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with the latest Catalyst drivers and the latest AMD SDK (2.4, I think).

In any event, any thoughts on whether I should be using Pay-per-Share or Proportional with a single 6990?

Yes, the CPU may be holding you back...  I hear using linux will cure this.  Also, Stream SDK 2.1 or 2.2 is best... although maybe you can't use that with the 6 series card??

-EP
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
Ok, I just started mining with deepbit, and this is my first shot at bitcoin mining.  I'm using my 6990 on an old AMD Athlon 64x2 system (4200+, specifically).  I'm getting ~220 per GPU core.  That seems low for a 6990, and I wonder if the Athlon CPU is holding my GPU back.  Any advice?  I'm running on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with the latest Catalyst drivers and the latest AMD SDK (2.4, I think).
In any event, any thoughts on whether I should be using Pay-per-Share or Proportional with a single 6990?
No, your CPU shouldn't affect mining speed in any way.

What miner do you use ? You can also check threads on the 6990 mining in this forum - may be there is some solution.

Many users ask me about PPS/Proportional, but this depends on the current luck. Sometimes the PPS may give you more (when pool is unlucky) and sometimes less.
If you are going to mine 24/7 then overall Proportional may give you more because proportional fee is 3% instead of 10% in PPS (the price for share is 45/difficulty). But it's not guaranted that average shares per block number will be equal to difficulty - it may be more or less than that.
The main use case for PPS is when you want to have steady payout rate, not depending on pool luck at all (you will receive your reward even if there are no blocks found for a long time).

I'm using poclbm-gui.  I added "-v -w128 -f0" to the flags section of poclbm-gui and that increased my rate by quite a bit. 

Also, after looking at my first nearly 24 hour period it looks like I'll be much better off using PPS with my single 6990.  For the past 22 hours I've used proportional and I've earned 2.78205276 BTC.  That seems pretty bad.  If I had used PPS, then right now I'd have about ~4 BTC [  (8300 shares) x (0.00048 BTC/share) = ~4 BTC].
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Ok, I just started mining with deepbit, and this is my first shot at bitcoin mining.  I'm using my 6990 on an old AMD Athlon 64x2 system (4200+, specifically).  I'm getting ~220 per GPU core.  That seems low for a 6990, and I wonder if the Athlon CPU is holding my GPU back.  Any advice?  I'm running on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with the latest Catalyst drivers and the latest AMD SDK (2.4, I think).
In any event, any thoughts on whether I should be using Pay-per-Share or Proportional with a single 6990?
No, your CPU shouldn't affect mining speed in any way.

What miner do you use ? You can also check threads on the 6990 mining in this forum - may be there is some solution.

Many users ask me about PPS/Proportional, but this depends on the current luck. Sometimes the PPS may give you more (when pool is unlucky) and sometimes less.
If you are going to mine 24/7 then overall Proportional may give you more because proportional fee is 3% instead of 10% in PPS (the price for share is 45/difficulty). But it's not guaranted that average shares per block number will be equal to difficulty - it may be more or less than that.
The main use case for PPS is when you want to have steady payout rate, not depending on pool luck at all (you will receive your reward even if there are no blocks found for a long time).
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
Ok, I just started mining with deepbit, and this is my first shot at bitcoin mining.  I'm using my 6990 on an old AMD Athlon 64x2 system (4200+, specifically).  I'm getting ~220 per GPU core.  That seems low for a 6990, and I wonder if the Athlon CPU is holding my GPU back.  Any advice?  I'm running on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with the latest Catalyst drivers and the latest AMD SDK (2.4, I think).

In any event, any thoughts on whether I should be using Pay-per-Share or Proportional with a single 6990?
legendary
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Merit: 1001
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Tycho, I love you. You are definitly worth your tax.
Thankyou for all of your continuous improovments that never cease to appear as a neccessity.
newbie
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Yeah! I have now a Mining Rig!
TOTAL ~ 1GH/s
Thanks for your participation Smiley
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You're welcome!

ByE!
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