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Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too - page 322. (Read 1601363 times)

newbie
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Are CPU miners not supported? It's okay if not. I just don't want to continue messing with this trying to make it work.
Just tested jgarzik's CPU miner and it worked fine for me.
Try to use -P key and see, what it's trying to parse. Then copy it and send to me by private message, i'll try to resolve.

BTW it's deepbit.net, not www.deepbit.net. But works anyway.



Sent! ..At least I think..my outbox is always empty even after I send a PM. It bugs me. But yeah...I think it should be in your inbox!
hero member
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Software update in progress, may result in ~2 minutes of downtime, sorry.
full member
Activity: 143
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I just want to make sure i've understood the difference, please ...
Proportional: Reward is based on finding a block. (I think i'm wrong here)
Pay-per-Share: Reward is based on the number of shares submitted, and the price specified on the homepage per share.
Yes, you are right.
Proportional: you get your part of the block when it's found. If you submitted 10000 shares and the block took 20000 to solve, you get half of all the reward.
Pay-per-Share: you get that fixed price for every share instantly, even if block is not found yet.

This does need to be simplified a bit more, e.g.

Proportional: . . .  you get half of all the reward, less three percent, which is commission to the pool operator.
Pay-per-Share: . . . that fixed price is, on average, ten percent less than you would get on a statistical average over the long term.

I think these are fair commissions as they are in line with others.  I mention it here only because if it is not completely clear to everyone, people are going to jump all over you when they finally get a clue and they are going to accuse you of cheating them.  Look at Slush's pool . . . people were asking him pointed questions, as if he were up to no good, at a time he wasn't even charging anything.  Just FYI, the only reason I left Slush's pool is that I was getting a large percentage of invalid/stale responses which may have accounted for a percentage of loss larger than anyone's commission.  That may have been a problem on my end, and not with Slush's pool, but since it has apparently been eliminated, I will stick with your pool for awhile.  My motto:  Put all of your eggs in one basket.  Then watch that basket.
hero member
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I just want to make sure i've understood the difference, please ...
Proportional: Reward is based on finding a block. (I think i'm wrong here)
Pay-per-Share: Reward is based on the number of shares submitted, and the price specified on the homepage per share.
Yes, you are right.
Proportional: you get your part of the block when it's found. If you submitted 10000 shares and the block took 20000 to solve, you get half of all the reward.
Pay-per-Share: you get that fixed price for every share instantly, even if block is not found yet.
member
Activity: 79
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Hi,
I just want to make sure i've understood the difference, please ...
Proportional: Reward is based on finding a block. (I think i'm wrong here)
Pay-per-Share: Reward is based on the number of shares submitted, and the price specified on the homepage per share.
full member
Activity: 143
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Okay, so I'm happy with the total absence of "invalid or stale" responses, and my Mhash rate as reported on your site seems to exactly correlate.  So I'm throwing the other 4 GPS's at it for a total of 8.  You are now at over 8Ghash and I am over 2.5Ghash of that.  You should start hitting blocks under 5 1/2 hours at that rate . . . over 218 bitcoins a day.  But I have a feeling those numbers are going to go up very fast.  Good to be in on the ground floor.  Let's see if we are lucky.

One suggestion, I realize there are alot of requests for new things.  If it ain't broke don't fix it.  On the other hand, go ahead and fix them if it won't lead to down time.

EDIT (You should post your current hash rate in the title to attract clients.)
hero member
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What happens if you switch from proportional to per-share in the middle of this block if you've gotten a lot of shares in proportional? Will I still get credit for all of those shares?

I think the difficulty will be going up in the next couple hours (block 110880), so hopefully somebody in this pool solves a block before then.
No shares will be lost, mode switch is seamless and you'll receive both parts of reward.

I hope so, this one block is really hard :)
newbie
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What happens if you switch from proportional to per-share in the middle of this block if you've gotten a lot of shares in proportional? Will I still get credit for all of those shares?

I think the difficulty will be going up in the next couple hours (block 110880), so hopefully somebody in this pool solves a block before then.
hero member
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Are CPU miners not supported? It's okay if not. I just don't want to continue messing with this trying to make it work.

I've successfully used GPU miner poclbm with "-d 0" option, it used my CPU. Not very powerful though, I only got around 0.01 BTC for ~8 hours of mining on my Intel C2D 2.0 GHz. So you'd want to use your GPU anyway.
hero member
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Hehe, I was about to ask the exact same question.  Did one share at PayPerShare before switching to Proportional for a few hours.  Would be nice to see an "expected reward" field like with slush's pool to avoid confusion here, but it's not too big a deal.
There is not so many users yet, so first blocks take long time to find. When this 4th block will be found, reward will be added to your balance.

dishwara generated 77 shares, at this moment it's ~0.11% of the block (which is not found yet).
newbie
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Hehe, I was about to ask the exact same question.  Did one share at PayPerShare before switching to Proportional for a few hours.  Would be nice to see an "expected reward" field like with slush's pool to avoid confusion here, but it's not too big a deal.

I'm sure Tycho has it on the TODO list along with the pretty graphs and everything :-)

Clean up this thread and it will be the help/FAQ page as well more or less. Eventually anyway.
sr. member
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Hehe, I was about to ask the exact same question.  Did one share at PayPerShare before switching to Proportional for a few hours.  Would be nice to see an "expected reward" field like with slush's pool to avoid confusion here, but it's not too big a deal.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
But so far even after 7-10 hours no share is showed in my account.
It says 0000000 balance only & i have not received any btc. even micros.
*snip*
Or i am the only one having problem?

The last block that paid out (the pool hit a +50BTC) was 17 hours ago.

Yours shares for the last 7-10 hours will only pay out when the pool hits a new +50BTC.

Simples. :-)
legendary
Activity: 1855
Merit: 1016
I joined ur pool.
Even i mined some shares at 220MH.
But so far even after 7-10 hours no share is showed in my account.
It says 0000000 balance only & i have not received any btc. even micros.
also ur stats page says reward none.
No one so far paid?
Or i am the only one having problem?
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
I'll second this, I've gotten it about 5 times in the past 5 hours w/ Diablo on a GTX460, I also have cpuminer-0.7 going and got a few "not enough semaphores" or some such.  Most of the time Diablo recovers and keeps going, once it went like 20min without doing any work before I killed it.

Should I have a separate account/worker set-up for the cpuminer?  I currently have them both logged in to the same user.

Also, I think everything is fine, but should I be expecting more than ~8Mh/s out of an i7 860 and 44Mh/s out of a GTX 460?
You can run many miners on same account, it's ok.
Today i'll add the option to create new workers.

This table says that you should get ~68 MH/s on GTX460 @ 1350 MHz. Looks like you should try another miner.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

I'll try to find out the cause of that bug with DiabloMiner today too.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Sounds about right, I'm getting ~8 out of an i7 and it looks like the GTX460 does ~68. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison. If you're doing graphic related stuff on your computer (games/streaming video) then it'll drop below the numbers on that site.

EDIT: I wrote 64, [Tycho] FTFM
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
First of all thanks for setting up a second pool for everybody; I recently got into the BTC hype but was having trouble going at it alone. I've been running for about 8 hours with little to no problems, although I don't have much to compare to seeing this is the first pooled experience I have. The only issue I've seen so far is occasionally DiabloMiner will give the following feedback:

85413/90697 khash/secException in thread "DiabloMiner Executor (GeForce GTX 295
(#1)/2)" java.lang.NullPointerException
        at com.diablominer.DiabloMiner.DiabloMiner$DeviceState$ExecutionState$Ge
tWorkParser.parse(DiabloMiner.java:731)
I thought that I fixed this issue yesterday... Ok, will check again, thanks for your report Smiley

I'll second this, I've gotten it about 5 times in the past 5 hours w/ Diablo on a GTX460, I also have cpuminer-0.7 going and got a few "not enough semaphores" or some such.  Most of the time Diablo recovers and keeps going, once it went like 20min without doing any work before I killed it.

Should I have a separate account/worker set-up for the cpuminer?  I currently have them both logged in to the same user.

Also, I think everything is fine, but should I be expecting more than ~8Mh/s out of an i7 860 and 44Mh/s out of a GTX 460?
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
First of all thanks for setting up a second pool for everybody; I recently got into the BTC hype but was having trouble going at it alone. I've been running for about 8 hours with little to no problems, although I don't have much to compare to seeing this is the first pooled experience I have. The only issue I've seen so far is occasionally DiabloMiner will give the following feedback:

85413/90697 khash/secException in thread "DiabloMiner Executor (GeForce GTX 295
(#1)/2)" java.lang.NullPointerException
        at com.diablominer.DiabloMiner.DiabloMiner$DeviceState$ExecutionState$Ge
tWorkParser.parse(DiabloMiner.java:731)
I thought that I fixed this issue yesterday... Ok, will check again, thanks for your report :)
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
First of all thanks for setting up a second pool for everybody; I recently got into the BTC hype but was having trouble going at it alone. I've been running for about 8 hours with little to no problems, although I don't have much to compare to seeing this is the first pooled experience I have. The only issue I've seen so far is occasionally DiabloMiner will give the following feedback:

85413/90697 khash/secException in thread "DiabloMiner Executor (GeForce GTX 295
(#1)/2)" java.lang.NullPointerException
        at com.diablominer.DiabloMiner.DiabloMiner$DeviceState$ExecutionState$Ge
tWorkParser.parse(DiabloMiner.java:731)
        at com.diablominer.DiabloMiner.DiabloMiner$DeviceState$ExecutionState$Ge
tWorkParser.getWork(DiabloMiner.java:636)
        at com.diablominer.DiabloMiner.DiabloMiner$DeviceState$ExecutionState$Ge
tWorkParser.update(DiabloMiner.java:630)
        at com.diablominer.DiabloMiner.DiabloMiner$DeviceState$ExecutionState.ru
n(DiabloMiner.java:534)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)

It would seem that the work returned is null and cannot be parsed. It corrects itself after a while, probably by asking for more work until something comes back. Forgive my noobidity if that's an incorrect assumption.
hero member
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Same speeds as on Slush's server, but am getting no stale's or invalids so far.  So I'll be switching over for the time being as the stales/invalids were costing me as much as 5-10 percent.  I think it may be the load on Slush's server, so hopefully yours will not have the same problem as it gets popular.  I'll leave 2 5970's on your server and the other 2 on Slush's and compare after awhile.  But, so far, excellent.  I'd like to see even more competition to ease up the load on the various pools.  I see this is in Beta.  Hopefully you will not have much downtime.  If you're down for an hour in a day, for example, that would cost well over the commission.
I'm not expecting load problems yet, it's really easy to avoid.

Beta actually means that i'm gradually adding features and looking carefully if everything works fine.
Downtime was about 5-10 seconds in last two days, due to software updating.
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