Dealing with ISP block on Gambling websites - page 5.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 04, 2022, 03:29:56 PM

Hello there,
I tried accessing TrustDice today, which is one of the first cryptocurrency casino's I've been introduced into, but it wouldn't load, claiming that "Connection is not private". I thought something was fishy at the moment, but quickly realized that it was actually blocked by my ISP.

How should I deal with such an issue? I certainly thought of using a VPN, but I only have a free one, meaning that it could easily be used by another person on the website simultaneously, which could potentially lead to a ban. Stake and Fortunejack are also banned, after making a few guesses, Roobet still works fine.

Read the TOS or any documents that could help you regarding this matter, you may try to use VPN, a paid one or not as long as the website will not prohibit its player for using the VPN, also try to check your blocklist option in your browser as well, I am not sure but just try to search blocklist and whitelist option in your router and also in which device you are currently using right now.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 11, 2022, 07:07:05 AM

Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 11, 2022, 02:42:20 AM

Quote from: STT on June 11, 2022, 12:08:06 AM

The lesson is be rich enough to take a private plane or ship into international waters for your gambling needs, then you are legal. Lots of things are quite unfair if you dont have money, I wouldnt worry too much about your gambling usage just dont hold too much at once is probably the solution I guess but mostly you should not be hassled in any more moderate solution.

I'm not planning to hold a large balance because technically, I'm still accessing the website from a restricted country, thus breaking their TOS, not sure how applicable this is after using Cloudflare's DNS though, but generally, I'd rather be cautious. However, my question is, does TrustDice or any other website still see my actual IP address, knowing that I'm bypassing my country's block?

If you are masking your real IP, they will not be able to see it, but there's a risk that's why you should be ready on the sanction since you knowingly access the stie even if your country are ban from accessing it. Sometimes, we just have to find a way to enjoy it even if it's not allowed, but we should be responsible enough to accept the consequences.

Sad to say but gamblers from gambling-restricted countries will surely have trouble and yes, the only option might you have is to play in a nonrestricted country which will cost you a lot. Most gambling sites also don't allow the use of VPN since it's against their TOS. Another option that you can try is to reach out for help from the Casino.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 11, 2022, 02:42:20 AM

Quote from: STT on June 11, 2022, 12:08:06 AM

The lesson is be rich enough to take a private plane or ship into international waters for your gambling needs, then you are legal. Lots of things are quite unfair if you dont have money, I wouldnt worry too much about your gambling usage just dont hold too much at once is probably the solution I guess but mostly you should not be hassled in any more moderate solution.

I'm not planning to hold a large balance because technically, I'm still accessing the website from a restricted country, thus breaking their TOS, not sure how applicable this is after using Cloudflare's DNS though, but generally, I'd rather be cautious. However, my question is, does TrustDice or any other website still see my actual IP address, knowing that I'm bypassing my country's block?

If you are masking your real IP, they will not be able to see it, but there's a risk that's why you should be ready on the sanction since you knowingly access the stie even if your country are ban from accessing it. Sometimes, we just have to find a way to enjoy even if it's not allowed, but we should be responsible enough to accept the consequences.

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Quote from: STT on June 11, 2022, 12:08:06 AM

The lesson is be rich enough to take a private plane or ship into international waters for your gambling needs, then you are legal. Lots of things are quite unfair if you dont have money, I wouldnt worry too much about your gambling usage just dont hold too much at once is probably the solution I guess but mostly you should not be hassled in any more moderate solution.

I'm not planning to hold a large balance because technically, I'm still accessing the website from a restricted country, thus breaking their TOS, not sure how applicable this is after using Cloudflare's DNS though, but generally, I'd rather be cautious. However, my question is, does TrustDice or any other website still see my actual IP address, knowing that I'm bypassing my country's block?

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The lesson is be rich enough to take a private plane or ship into international waters for your gambling needs, then you are legal. Lots of things are quite unfair if you dont have money, I wouldnt worry too much about your gambling usage just dont hold too much at once is probably the solution I guess but mostly you should not be hassled in any more moderate solution.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on June 06, 2022, 10:19:26 AM

Quote from: virasog on June 06, 2022, 08:42:30 AM

Quote from: Maslate on June 04, 2022, 04:05:03 PM

That's very simple, once your ISP is blocked, you are not allowed to gamble due to legal restrictions.

Now, the solution is very simple, you use VPN to change your IP and that will give you access to enjoy the gambling site.
Some sites would okay that, but some will see it as a form of cheating since the word "bypass" is cheating for them, so I agree with the poster above, you know the risk, it's up to you if you are willing to take the risk of getting banned later.

The point to note is that here the ISP is blocking the gambling sites and there is no issue from the gambling sites blocking your country. In this case , I think the gambling site will have no objection and your ISP won't be able to find you are accessing the gambling sites. Just make sure the VPN connecting location should not be any country which the gambling site has restricted.

You shouldn't count on the good will of casinos. If you lose your money at them they will stay friendly and warm with you but if you win money, you won't be welcomed anymore and they won't tolerate this kind of thing anymore. Then as Maslate said, it's risky.
The better and easier solution is to simply change your DNS server in your configuration. You can use the one of Google (8.8.8. Cool

, or Cloudflare (1.1.1.1) for example.
Raflesia gave a link above of a thread explaining how to do it easily into Chrome.

Quote from: Raflesia on June 05, 2022, 06:48:03 AM

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Was way too busy the past few days and haven't been able to contact them yet, I'll make sure to report back when I do and receive their response. Thank you for all your replies, I'll make sure to try changing the DNS settings or Cloudfare before doing.

I didn't have much money on the account, thus I don't really care if I end up losing it, but it'd suck a little.

Quote from: Raflesia on June 05, 2022, 06:48:03 AM

Quote from: michellee on June 05, 2022, 06:33:42 AM

Have you tried changing the DNS on your device to something else? Sometimes it can solve the problem of being blocked by your ISP but I don't know what will happen to your account at that ISP.

Using a VPN can be done but before you use a VPN, you better ask each casino you want to play at first because the policies of each casino are different. To use a VPN, I recommend using a premium VPN because it can provide many IPs that you can choose from. But to be on the safe side, you don't need to visit the casino if your ISP is blocking your connection there.

Try using it this way, I also initially couldn't load Fortunejack but after using it it can be reopened without a VPN.

How To Access Sportsbet.io or any kind of gambling without VPN

Usually, casinos allow using a VPN as long as it doesn't become an abuse and it's better to use a premium VPN instead of a free one, but it's better to ask first, but if you don't want to risk too much, another casino might be an alternative.

Many thanks! Just tried it and works like a charm, no need to contact them nor use a VPN and risk losing my funds. A quick question though, does using Cloudflare DNS affect anything else? I hadn't heard of it as an option before, so it's all new to me.

Thanks in advance

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Quote from: virasog on June 06, 2022, 08:42:30 AM

Quote from: Maslate on June 04, 2022, 04:05:03 PM

That's very simple, once your ISP is blocked, you are not allowed to gamble due to legal restrictions.

Now, the solution is very simple, you use VPN to change your IP and that will give you access to enjoy the gambling site.
Some sites would okay that, but some will see it as a form of cheating since the word "bypass" is cheating for them, so I agree with the poster above, you know the risk, it's up to you if you are willing to take the risk of getting banned later.

The point to note is that here the ISP is blocking the gambling sites and there is no issue from the gambling sites blocking your country. In this case , I think the gambling site will have no objection and your ISP won't be able to find you are accessing the gambling sites. Just make sure the VPN connecting location should not be any country which the gambling site has restricted.

You shouldn't count on the good will of casinos. If you lose your money at them they will stay friendly and warm with you but if you win money, you won't be welcomed anymore and they won't tolerate this kind of thing anymore. Then as Maslate said, it's risky.
The better and easier solution is to simply change your DNS server in your configuration. You can use the one of Google (8.8.8.8), or Cloudflare (1.1.1.1) for example.
Raflesia gave a link above of a thread explaining how to do it easily into Chrome.

Quote from: Raflesia on June 05, 2022, 06:48:03 AM

How To Access Sportsbet.io or any kind of gambling without VPN

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Quote from: romero121 on June 06, 2022, 01:16:15 AM

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It's not really suprise.

Example, In muslim-country they're quite active to block not only gambling site but also porn. I also need to dealing with ISP Blocked for any kind gambling site, but to be honest we can solved this issue without need VPN.

If the casino want to help player, like creating a few mirror link we can access. One of the site who have this system is "Stake" and really help for people who are getting blocked by our internet provider country.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 04, 2022, 04:05:03 PM

That's very simple, once your ISP is blocked, you are not allowed to gamble due to legal restrictions.

Now, the solution is very simple, you use VPN to change your IP and that will give you access to enjoy the gambling site.
Some sites would okay that, but some will see it as a form of cheating since the word "bypass" is cheating for them, so I agree with the poster above, you know the risk, it's up to you if you are willing to take the risk of getting banned later.

The point to note is that here the ISP is blocking the gambling sites and there is no issue from the gambling sites blocking your country. In this case , I think the gambling site will have no objection and your ISP won't be able to find you are accessing the gambling sites. Just make sure the VPN connecting location should not be any country which the gambling site has restricted.

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Know the rules of your country with regard to online gambling. It's them that have given the ISPs in your country the command of restricting the citizens. There's no other way of dealing with it but through using a VPN. There are cheap VPNs that you can rely on and much better if you don't depend on the free ones. And before using one, ask your chosen casino if they're okay with the use of a VPN so that you won't be surprised if ever they ask you a sudden KYC because of that particular rule. You can go through them on their ANN threads.

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Quote from: romero121 on June 06, 2022, 01:16:15 AM

It looks like the country's ISP policy to block entering the particular gambling platform. For now the better choice is to contact the trustdice support team through some means. This will help you providing mirror link to enter the site. I'm not sure about it, but with Stake when such issue arises it is possible to enter the platform through mirror links provided.

So what's the point of banning the IP if the gambling site itself can give a mirror link? It's like they are not implementing their rules, because if it's ban, it should be ban and there's no other way to access it legally.

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It looks like the country's ISP policy to block entering the particular gambling platform. For now the better choice is to contact the trustdice support team through some means. This will help you providing mirror link to enter the site. I'm not sure about it, but with Stake when such issue arises it is possible to enter the platform through mirror links provided.

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I don't know how far your ISP has gone into blocking the casinos because in my country when first the casinos and every website with the word "bet" in their domain was blocked all I had to do was to change the DNS settings to something else,for example to google 8.8.8.8 and I could access the site.This didn't last long though as after some time whatever DNS I was using these sites were blocked from all ISP-s in my country.Now I use a Premium VPN (Hide my ass) it is called but it costs money like 2.99 dollars a month,anyone can afford to pay such money for a Premium service is my opinion about this.

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Quote from: Raflesia on June 05, 2022, 06:48:03 AM

Quote from: michellee on June 05, 2022, 06:33:42 AM

Have you tried changing the DNS on your device to something else? Sometimes it can solve the problem of being blocked by your ISP but I don't know what will happen to your account at that ISP.

Using a VPN can be done but before you use a VPN, you better ask each casino you want to play at first because the policies of each casino are different. To use a VPN, I recommend using a premium VPN because it can provide many IPs that you can choose from. But to be on the safe side, you don't need to visit the casino if your ISP is blocking your connection there.

Try using it this way, I also initially couldn't load Fortunejack but after using it it can be reopened without a VPN.

How To Access Sportsbet.io or any kind of gambling without VPN

Usually, casinos allow using a VPN as long as it doesn't become an abuse and it's better to use a premium VPN instead of a free one, but it's better to ask first, but if you don't want to risk too much, another casino might be an alternative.

I've also experienced this before, but I changed the DNS from my ISP and didn't violate the TOS from the ISP and the casino and that is the same as what you suggested to us. Thank you.

Even though the casinos allow the use of VPNs, it's best if we ask the casino so we don't run into any problems in the future. Using a VPN is a quick way to get around the problem of blocking or not visiting a site.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on June 05, 2022, 02:33:21 PM

Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 04, 2022, 03:29:56 PM

Hello there,
I tried accessing TrustDice today, which is one of the first cryptocurrency casino's I've been introduced into, but it wouldn't load, claiming that "Connection is not private". I thought something was fishy at the moment, but quickly realized that it was actually blocked by my ISP.

If i am facing the same situation, i would purchase a dedicated IP to access to these websites rather than using dynamic IPs because you never know when the gambling website is going to shut their doors on you claiming suspicious activity usually when you win something big. So in order to avoid that, either purchase a VPN that provides dedicated IP.

if you arent that a bigtime gambler or does involve huge amount of money then using up dynamic IP's wont really be that issue but if you are totally in opposite then it is just right
on buying up dedicated IP so that you would able to avoid yourself on possible hassle that you might experience in the future if ever you would win big but thats still a what if situation.
Its also important on reading up site terms if VPN is prohibited or allowed which in most cases its really that a red flag to them thats why reading is a must.

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Using VPN is not really prohibited. You just have to make sure that it was allowed by the site.

Please also check if using other ISP does have the same problem. Sometimes, it is just the provider as the main reason but when you access it on other providers, it works fine since you said, it works before. How to check it? Of course, I'm sure you don't have the same ISP as your friends. Ask them to access the site and see the result.

Start from there before doing the next steps.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 04, 2022, 03:29:56 PM

How should I deal with such an issue? I certainly thought of using a VPN, but I only have a free one, meaning that it could easily be used by another person on the website simultaneously, which could potentially lead to a ban. Stake and Fortunejack are also banned, after making a few guesses, Roobet still works fine.

Don't use vpn just yet because till you researched and find out if trustdice allows it or not, if not then you can try other gambling sites which allows vpn, if you still want to continue gambling using a crypto. I know stake is not strict when it comes to this matter. You can also play on roobet since you said this was still working without the use of vpn.

You will feel awkward at first playing on the site you are not familiar with but you will get used to this feeling soon. I know roobet and stake are a high quality websites. It will be perfect for you no matter what your goals are, whether you are playing for fun or for the profit. It was only sad if you still have some funds left on trustdice or if your VIP level is already high.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 05, 2022, 02:05:21 PM

Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 05, 2022, 12:40:06 PM

No worries, no offense taken, I'm here to seek advice and actually, you're right. I just checked their TOS and it doesn't mention anything for VPN usage, but does mention that multi-accounting is a bannable offense "Only one Account for each household, IP, PC is allowed". On top of that, it also mentions that if you're using their site from a restricted country, you're practically breaking their TOS.

"3.7 You are aware that the right to access and use the website and any products there offered, may be considered illegal in certain countries..., or other restricted jurisdictions (“Restricted Jurisdiction”) as informed by us from time to time. By using the Website you confirm you are not a resident in a Restricted Jurisdiction."

On top of that, I'd rather not use a VPN because I tend to forget to turn it off, and I'd rather not have multiple IPs showing on certain websites.

If you are that afraid to lose whatever funds you have in the account, you could try to contact the customer service by using a VPN without logging into your account and explain your situation to them, and tell them that you only want to get your money back, in that case maybe they could allow you to connect from a VPN to get your money and then you can play in whatever casino that is not restricted by your ISP, or play in a casino which does not mind their users to connect through a VPN.

I'll try to contact them through their Telegram group like another user recommended, or via email. I never thought they'd start banning cryptocurrency casinos a few years ago but I guess due to their increasing popularity, more and more will be added to their list.

I'll see what kind of response I receive, in the worst case scenario, I've lost a few bucks.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 04, 2022, 03:29:56 PM

Hello there,
I tried accessing TrustDice today, which is one of the first cryptocurrency casino's I've been introduced into, but it wouldn't load, claiming that "Connection is not private". I thought something was fishy at the moment, but quickly realized that it was actually blocked by my ISP.

If i am facing the same situation, i would purchase a dedicated IP to access to these websites rather than using dynamic IPs because you never know when the gambling website is going to shut their doors on you claiming suspicious activity usually when you win something big. So in order to avoid that, either purchase a VPN that provides dedicated IP.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 05, 2022, 02:05:21 PM

Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 05, 2022, 12:40:06 PM

No worries, no offense taken, I'm here to seek advice and actually, you're right. I just checked their TOS and it doesn't mention anything for VPN usage, but does mention that multi-accounting is a bannable offense "Only one Account for each household, IP, PC is allowed". On top of that, it also mentions that if you're using their site from a restricted country, you're practically breaking their TOS.

"3.7 You are aware that the right to access and use the website and any products there offered, may be considered illegal in certain countries..., or other restricted jurisdictions (“Restricted Jurisdiction”) as informed by us from time to time. By using the Website you confirm you are not a resident in a Restricted Jurisdiction."

On top of that, I'd rather not use a VPN because I tend to forget to turn it off, and I'd rather not have multiple IPs showing on certain websites.

If you are that afraid to lose whatever funds you have in the account, you could try to contact the customer service by using a VPN without logging into your account and explain your situation to them, and tell them that you only want to get your money back, in that case maybe they could allow you to connect from a VPN to get your money and then you can play in whatever casino that is not restricted by your ISP, or play in a casino which does not mind their users to connect through a VPN.

If you are really that in doubt then you could always ask out on the platform you are tending to play.In case if you cant find it in their terms and conditions but mostly its really stated there thats why
its really important that you should have some time on reading it up at least you would really be that aware on what are the rules of this site. If you are eagerly tending to play on the site but
having that kind of restriction then you could always have the time on asking them and if its prohibited then you wont really be having any choice but to deal off with other sites which do allow.
Yeah its sad when you dont able to play on the site you do like but you dont have any choice unless if you could risk out on using VPN despite of being against on terms then its your choice.

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