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June 14, 2021, 02:35:01 PM
#32
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So, i assume the burn address will be used to burn leftover "bitcoin eco", since nobody in his right mind would burn btc (worth ~$40k) to get an equivalent amount "btc eco" (worth ~$0 at this point in time).

That's exactly what he expects. In order to "evolve" Bitcoin (BTC) into Bitcoin-ECO, you must first send real Bitcoin to a designated burn address. Sounds tempting, doesn't it?  Cheesy

Our definitions of Evolved Bitcoin- A Bitcoin that has been sent to an unrecoverable Bitcoin address and can be considered removed from Bitcoin total supply/out of circulation. As this Bitcoin amount becomes unrecoverable and confirmed you are issued Bitcoin Eco- BTCECO at a ratio of 1 to 1.

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On the other hand, his "green" (white) paper contains little to no techical background, and his questions sometimes make me wonder if he has sufficient technical knowledge to pull something like this off.....

Here is how he envisions Bitcoin-ECO's launch:


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And, this is the same footage from a wider angle:

newbie
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June 14, 2021, 03:47:31 AM
#31
This is the reason I did not trust cryptocurrency.

What a funny thing to hear from a low-level bounty hunter.  Cheesy
What is the point in hunting every possible shitcoin you come across if you do not trust cryptocurrencies?

Does he have a passionate desire to be cheated? Or does he feel good about working for free? What if that is the only thing that gives him pleasure? Grin
legendary
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June 14, 2021, 01:04:39 AM
#30
In my humble opinion, no one will want to burn, but if there are lost wallets.
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I'm defenately not involved in this project, but if i had to take an educated guess, the burn address would not be used to burn coin on the bitcoin chain, but rather to burn coins on OP's "bitcoin eco" chain.

The OP indicated he cloned bitcoin, changed the POW algo to POS and premined >21M coins. He then indicated he'll give btc holders the chance to switch to his chain and afterwards he promises (eventough you'd have to take his word for it) that he'll burn any leftover coin.
So, i assume the burn address will be used to burn leftover "bitcoin eco", since nobody in his right mind would burn btc (worth ~$40k) to get an equivalent amount "btc eco" (worth ~$0 at this point in time).

What the OP is doing is nothing new... Byteball (for example) had a similar distribution method.
On the other hand, if the OP was serious about distributing his "eco" altcoin according to current BTC holdings, he should have forked at a certain blockheight in the future, hence everybody who would have had funds on the original chain before the forkheight, would have also had funds on the "eco" altcoin chain... And by doing this, he would have been able to incentivise POS mining, since not all "eco" coins would have been mined, and there would have been some room left for block rewards. Also, by forking instead of premining, he would have built something that didn't rely on trusting him to burn all his premine, but he would have had a project that was completely verifyable and trustless.

But hey, bitcoin is open source, OP is free to try and experiment if he wants to... On the other hand, his "green" (white) paper contains little to no techical background, and his questions sometimes make me wonder if he has sufficient technical knowledge to pull something like this off.....
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June 13, 2021, 05:06:25 PM
#29
In my humble opinion, no one will want to burn, but if there are lost wallets.

And nobody has access to them, why? Many holders did not believe in bitcoin, many lost their passwords to their wallet. Many were millionaires but no longer will be.

Between 17% and 23% of total bitcoin will be forgotten forever.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/good-news-you-are-a-bitcoin-millionaire-bad-news-you-forgot-your-password-1513701480?mod=rss_Technology
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June 13, 2021, 05:42:58 AM
#28
This is the reason I did not trust cryptocurrency.

What a funny thing to hear from a low-level bounty hunter.  Cheesy
What is the point in hunting every possible shitcoin you come across if you do not trust cryptocurrencies?
sr. member
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June 13, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
#27
Elon musk is playing with the crypto investors' emotion and as per the recent Crypto Market crash, I make him responsible because of his greedy tweets.
You have tons of Issue against Elon Musk.



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This is the reason I did not trust cryptocurrency.


So why the hell you are not trusting Cryptocurrency? if you don't trust crypto Why you are still here?

Get Out and find your own world not here in crypto world.
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June 12, 2021, 11:53:28 PM
#26
I find your suggestion very old considering that Elon has lost the public trust and has been caught in the lust for profit rather than the desire to develop and improve life on the planet
And besides what is the sense for creating a Burning wallet? Elon will only take this advantage to Bag more and more Bitcoin.

The man is nothing but irresponsible human that only protect his interest and never to others.

I guess that OP has no Bitcoin at all..
sr. member
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June 12, 2021, 05:53:58 PM
#25
I agree with you, Elon Musk is increasingly showing his greed for what he has done in the crypto world. And began to slowly lose the public's trust,
this is the result that he did himself. I'm becoming increasingly skeptical of all the companies that Elon Musk is leading to make life on this planet better.
It is possible that Elon Musk's main goal through the company he leads is just to enrich himself. I really hate Elon Musk right now.
As entrepreneurs, what he do is clear we cannot blame because that is the goal he are looking for and now it is up to us as followers and investors not to make the mistake of accepting what is said without proper analysis. Such a person clearly aims to benefit himself and his company, but if everyone does not heed and keep quiet then there will not be too big an impact, this is because there are still many who are carried away by the incitement he does and make everything go wrong.

start with good thinking that don't give excessive trust to this kind of person because he only wants to damage for the sake of what he wants to achieve. enough is enough and don't give him any more room to be able to do this silly thing.

I am also an entrepreneur in the real world, there is nothing wrong with Elon Musk's goal of making profit for himself and his company.
If he really uses the right way to make that profit, I have no problem, the problem is he does it in a way I can't justify. There are still many
good and elegant ways that Elon Musk can do so that he can get the profit he wants. Don't manipulate the crypto market, it can cost a lot of
people, meaning Elon Musk sacrifices a lot of people for the profit he wants. I agree this happened because we all over-trusted Elon Musk
and gave him space in the crypto world. Now it's time to stop giving him room, we better ignore whatever Elon Musk is doing,
it's the best thing we can do right now.
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June 12, 2021, 06:54:18 AM
#24
I find your suggestion very old considering that Elon has lost the public trust and has been caught in the lust for profit rather than the desire to develop and improve life on the planet
it is inevitable that someone like @elonmusk with a large following will do something that is clearly aimed at benefiting him, but it all comes back to followers and investors, whether they want to continue to trust such people who only do bad news for crypto which clearly has no benefit at all to be able to taken as an example.

I agree with you, Elon Musk is increasingly showing his greed for what he has done in the crypto world. And began to slowly lose the public's trust,
this is the result that he did himself. I'm becoming increasingly skeptical of all the companies that Elon Musk is leading to make life on this planet better.
It is possible that Elon Musk's main goal through the company he leads is just to enrich himself. I really hate Elon Musk right now.
As entrepreneurs, what he do is clear we cannot blame because that is the goal he are looking for and now it is up to us as followers and investors not to make the mistake of accepting what is said without proper analysis. Such a person clearly aims to benefit himself and his company, but if everyone does not heed and keep quiet then there will not be too big an impact, this is because there are still many who are carried away by the incitement he does and make everything go wrong.

start with good thinking that don't give excessive trust to this kind of person because he only wants to damage for the sake of what he wants to achieve. enough is enough and don't give him any more room to be able to do this silly thing.
jr. member
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June 11, 2021, 10:04:42 PM
#23
Elon musk is playing with the crypto investors' emotion and as per the recent Crypto Market crash, I make him responsible because of his greedy tweets. This is the reason I did not trust cryptocurrency.
sr. member
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June 11, 2021, 06:46:08 PM
#22
I find your suggestion very old considering that Elon has lost the public trust and has been caught in the lust for profit rather than the desire to develop and improve life on the planet

I agree with you, Elon Musk is increasingly showing his greed for what he has done in the crypto world. And began to slowly lose the public's trust,
this is the result that he did himself. I'm becoming increasingly skeptical of all the companies that Elon Musk is leading to make life on this planet better.
It is possible that Elon Musk's main goal through the company he leads is just to enrich himself. I really hate Elon Musk right now.
jr. member
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June 11, 2021, 04:24:22 PM
#21
I find your suggestion very old considering that Elon has lost the public trust and has been caught in the lust for profit rather than the desire to develop and improve life on the planet
legendary
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June 11, 2021, 02:50:38 PM
#20
Create a Bitcoin wallet and don't save it.
Lose the seed words.
Copy paste addresses to send money to it
???
Profit!

Or use any of the gazillion addresses of people who come crying saying they lost their password/seeds.

I don't see any point in burning bitcoin since its limited production anyway and some have been getting lost by people's own mistakes or simply passing away without leaving it to anyone. Some altcoins do that, especially those with unlimited production, in their pointless attempt to affect its own market price.

Bitcoin doesn't need any "eco" initiative, the market is self-regulating this. Elon Musk is simply ignorant or attempting to manipulate the market. Mining is becoming more and more unprofitable, large inefficient mining will stop, the last miners will be those with free energy from renewable sources, on a much smaller scale.

When price surges for whatever reason this might seem to be delayed, but make no mistake, it is coming sooner or later. Every 4 years a halving occurs...
copper member
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Bitcoin Eco - Environmentally Sustainable
June 11, 2021, 10:37:04 AM
#19
Dear Elon,

We have a simple request. It would cost you a few minutes of your time but would have a hug impact on Bitcoins bright future. Could you create a public Bitcoin burn address. A bitcoin address that cannot be recovered and NO ONE has access to. Could you post this address to your twitter account? Anyone could make an unrecoverable address but what we need is a TRUSTED burn address. So when people send Bitcoin to this address it is for sure 100%  out of circulation and FOREVER unrecoverable. This might sound like a strange request but rest assured it will function as much needed utility. This address will be used as a green initiative for Bitcoin.

Thank you
Don't make fun of the community , they don't even deserve to be treated like this.

and what is the main purpose of this burning wallet?

Market does not even need something like to dispose bitcoin because there are only limited stocks of it.

We have a very specific need to burn Bitcoin. It is not the intention to destroy Bitcoin but to evolve the value that Bitcoin has to a better  Bitcoin. A Faster , Secure and Environmentally Sustainable Bitcoin
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June 10, 2021, 01:21:29 AM
#18
Dear Elon,

We have a simple request. It would cost you a few minutes of your time but would have a hug impact on Bitcoins bright future. Could you create a public Bitcoin burn address. A bitcoin address that cannot be recovered and NO ONE has access to. Could you post this address to your twitter account? Anyone could make an unrecoverable address but what we need is a TRUSTED burn address. So when people send Bitcoin to this address it is for sure 100%  out of circulation and FOREVER unrecoverable. This might sound like a strange request but rest assured it will function as much needed utility. This address will be used as a green initiative for Bitcoin.

Thank you
Don't make fun of the community , they don't even deserve to be treated like this.

and what is the main purpose of this burning wallet?

Market does not even need something like to dispose bitcoin because there are only limited stocks of it.
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June 09, 2021, 06:03:11 PM
#17
Dear Elon,

We have a simple request. It would cost you a few minutes of your time but would have a hug impact on Bitcoins bright future. Could you create a public Bitcoin burn address. A bitcoin address that cannot be recovered and NO ONE has access to. Could you post this address to your twitter account? Anyone could make an unrecoverable address but what we need is a TRUSTED burn address. So when people send Bitcoin to this address it is for sure 100%  out of circulation and FOREVER unrecoverable. This might sound like a strange request but rest assured it will function as much needed utility. This address will be used as a green initiative for Bitcoin.

Thank you
LOL isn't 21M max cap too small already? And we already have those lost wallet from early users?
And why would Elon even do it? Why would people send their investment to be burn out?
sr. member
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June 06, 2021, 04:12:08 AM
#16
Dear Elon,

We have a simple request. It would cost you a few minutes of your time but would have a hug impact on Bitcoins bright future. Could you create a public Bitcoin burn address. A bitcoin address that cannot be recovered and NO ONE has access to. Could you post this address to your twitter account? Anyone could make an unrecoverable address but what we need is a TRUSTED burn address. So when people send Bitcoin to this address it is for sure 100%  out of circulation and FOREVER unrecoverable. This might sound like a strange request but rest assured it will function as much needed utility. This address will be used as a green initiative for Bitcoin.

Thank you
Seriously ? you wanted Elon to help burning Bitcoin? are you a born loser or simply a stupid one?

Why not just Burn your things and let Bitcoin alone?
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June 06, 2021, 03:47:03 AM
#15
From the guy who wants to start a stupid project comes a stupid request...

You don't know how to create a 100% certifiable burn address but you want to create a new, "better" Bitcoin? Oh, God help us all!
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June 06, 2021, 02:41:53 AM
#14
AFAIK, there's an address which anyone can send any amount for burning. I'm sure that I've seen it somewhere here in the forum. But just like they said, there's no need for Elon to make one.

But if you want to voice this out to him, tweet what you're saying or reply to any of his tweets. There's a bigger chance that you'll be noticed by him.
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Bitcoin Eco - Environmentally Sustainable
June 05, 2021, 04:16:30 PM
#13
If you take a look at block one: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block/1 there was an address where the generated coins were ended (12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX) you could burn your coins there just like the other people already burned 0.34btc on it.

There's a misconception of “burned coins”. If you sent some bitcoins to a rewarding address of the first blocks (probaby Satoshi's), you would have no proof that someone still has access to its private key. A burning address works as a proof. A proof that no one worked that much to generate it. It speaks for itself.

If you funded a Satoshi address, you would have no proof, but rather belief that the outputs will remain unspent.

Very neat way of thinking. Satoshi  is our HERO!!! Everything we do is in service of Bitcoin , Satoshi and the Bitcoin community. People might not see it that way .We might be vilified by some. Hopefully in time we can change that narrative. Hopefully in time the work will speak for itself. All we can do is move forward in our ambitions to make a positive impact.
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