Topic: Dear Newbies: Please don’t buy Merit! (Read 955 times)

Instead of buying merit try to contribute on the forum by purchasing copper membership, it will also increase your forum capabilities such posting image and waiting time will be more benign/amenable plus wearing a membership is a kindda cool probably that's a self-interest of mine.

I agree with your statement, getting merit in an instant way or buying is not the right thing because it will hinder our knowledge. although it is quite difficult to get merit in a procedure, but it will have a positive effect for us to continue learning in the future.
 

Newbies don't need to buy Merit, in this forum, there are many Merit Sources, but Newbies only need to stop thinking about rank up just to follow a bounty

I agree, merit must be earned, not bought. This is like corruption, we must fight it. Merit is the right decision, I support.

It makes no sense to me to buy the merit. When guys like me can get the merit naturally from making a post and I do not know the English language well. There must be some small effort from our side. Do not buy merits, you might lose your accounts, guys.

The reason such a market has come to exist is because spamming shitposters and low income country beggars have made this forum their work place and merit has been the barrier stopping them from ranking up because their posts literally have no reading value and nothing worth applauding on. They are thus a prime target for scammers.

Remember that if you are buying merit you are abusing the system and thus will receive punishment since theymos can reverse the merits sent if they wish to. Also any scammer can pose as a merit source and tell you to buy merits but these are frauds, plain scams. A real merit source would never sell their merit because they would lose the post if they are caught.

Let spambies freedom to buy merits, simultaneously with potential red tags.
Give them free options.
I don't see reasons to remind them about this because they all known it (I believe), but simply want to take risks.

If you are desperate enough to rank up you would spend much to buy a merit for you to be able to rank up fast and gain big stakes in bounty campaigns and we cannot control it even newbies will be encourage to buy merits just to rank up especially when you have less knowledge in this forum and you can't share or post some useful topics and replies and in result you cannot rank up fast or gain any merits easily. BUT ... in the end it is still up to those merit donators or let's say merit source if they will sell their merits or not.. We cannot avoid those circumstances because almost (but not all) think of this forum as a money source ! ^_^

Yes, this should things work so that the forum could achieve a nice and clean discussion for cryptocurrency. This is why the admin has imposed merit so as to avoid users to spam here in the forum. As we all know that spamming would likely to happen in a user has a merit and will be qualified for signature campaign. If only there will be rulings for signature bounty to avoid a user to spam for the betterment of the forum then that would be appreciated.

Good thoughts mate,  just  patience and work the best way to success!

I am also agree with this topic.
At first time, i was shocked about rank downgraded. But i don't want to buy merit. 
I think,  on the way to success there is no shortcut.

I agree, perhaps due to the rapid growth of new accounts, Bitcoin has launched new requirements for Jabra. Members (1 Merit)

Very true merit is given to the more established account holders "like they pass it back and forth".

Only problem is if you create a "black market" the will always be someone trying to buy or sell merit. Now the forum has probably started a "black market" for merit scammers. Hopfully the forum gets better and not worse.

Just walk around buddy, someone buying merit may he has realize, he write a good post but not merited. Meanwhile, who have a Hero, Legendary, write a short post (qiuping, grumbling, mocking post) merited by someone.

Not only merit traded in here, Bitcoin Account has already traded in this forum buddy. So do not to excited.

Maybe sometime, buying a sub-forum will be available in here. LOL

Don't worry I wouldn't buy it but I might have made a meme about it in hopes someone might like enough to throw me a bone 

The topic which published recently by @Theymos, the forum admin, is a helpful one for Newbies.
Writing a welcome message, which should be taken into deeply consideration as a Bibble for all Newbies in the forum.
Moreover, as I stated above, there are bunches of other helpful topics around the foroum.
Strongly recommend Newbies spending their time to read them first before thinking of composing, then publishing any thread.

Yes offcourse merit is not supposed to be sold why because the won't no how hard it take to get it  but when the make meaningful post it makes them understand more about cryptocurrency.

One thing with buying merit is that it might backfire, because you don't know who you are buying merit from, you could be scammed for it, desperation leads to disaster, I think the best way to earn merit here is by stop been desperate for merit, read more , learn more and enjoy your stay here, merits will come when it comes, you won't even know.

There might even be a far more worse consequence if merit selling happens prevalently on this Jr. Members (or even up to higher ranks). If it will be proven chances are theymos will do another readjustment to the merit requirements for these Jr. Members and this time they might include Members (rank) as well. theymos could easily increase the merit requirement of Jr. Members to 10 or 15 and Members to 20 or 30 if he see things like this necessary, and of course a lot of people will be affected with this new increase but if they will continue to patronize such kind of business I have no doubt that further changes in the merit system will happen.

You just made an amazing post. I was hanging onto every word until I got to your last line, "  sMerit was airdropped to existing Merit sources a few days ago".  Does anyone not find it a little frustrating that more merit was dropped to the Same people as everyone else without merit were demoted? Why would someone with merit get free merit, and people at the bottom without merit get penalized. It almost aches to problems we have with the 1 percent.

When the merit was introduced, I was not at all upset that I had not managed to go into a full participant in 2 weeks.
I was not particularly worried that no one gives me credit, and I will not buy it in any case.
PS, and I advise you, too, not to become obsessed with the purchase of merits.

i agree the merit system is put into place to make the forum a better place to learn about crypto coins and to get the help you really need. It was put in place to get people to write more informing post to help people out.
people trying to just buy merit is no help to others and makes them very untrustworthy to the people trying to learn from the site.

Guys, please do not buy drug.
The fact is still happening !

We can't guard something with 100% maximum protection because if there is a way, it still can be attacked / hacked
All we can do is prevent by educating people for not do it !

As discussed many times around 8 months since the first day of merit system, merits are essential for the forum in its fight against spammers and shit-posters.
Of course, I know that it's hard to earn merits with my experience, but users can earn them for sure via their continuously deep contribution over time.
It takes time, need valuable contributions to get real results which might be shown via total number of merits can get.

In a word, totally agree with the OP on the warning message to avoid buying merits. This message is very important for all forum newcomers.

By the way, thanks @Theymos for his decision to change the forum, one more time.
At least, for now, the forum has not been annoyed, dumped with shitshows from Newbies. They have to get 1 merit to wear signature codes and join bounties.
In my experience, it's not too hard to get only 1 merit, so I support the new rank requirements, especially the latest adjustments on Junior Member rank requirements.
So, next question should be "how to make contribution, in particular valuable, helpful one?"
My tips are:
- Reading first and stop publishing new threads/ topics now. Next, which sorts of things I should read. Reading all helpful topics on forum rules, guides, and on bitcoin/ blockchain technologies; English vocabularies/ grammar, etc. Doing this on daily basis to improve knowledge, sharpen skills first.
This one is a very good place to get started: [GUIDES] on Bitcointalk. Index thread (until there is a dedicated subforum?)
- Publishing your threads to ask questions which have not been solved with current available threads/ topics. Or posting threads to help others solve their issues.
- Keep reading and learning via all your time you spend in the forum to help others. Help yourself first by reading and learning; then be more skilled, more expertised, more knowledgeable enough to help others. One of my most favorite way to learn in the forum is following famouse, prestigious members in order to catch their newest threads/ topics/ guides. Doing this has simultaneous effects, saving my time, boosting my learning process.

It is something like a cycle of reading, learning, contributing, so simply name it as a Read-Learn-Contribute Cycle in the BTT forum.

Let's stop complaining, start contributing instead and rank up, newcomers and newbies!

P/s:
One of good news is last week, the merit distribution increased around 90% than the figure of previous week.
Check it there with a report from @coinlocket$.
I am not sure why it happend, but I guess more merit sources added recently and more merit sources become more actively last week.
Or another theory is more slightly merit abusements from Newbies who wanted to rank up to Junior Member rank. It's just my theory, so take it easy guys.

By the way, I would like to remind that I created a topic on lists of blockchain courses (most of them are free).
Available courses on Bitcoin and Blockchain Technology from colleges and Univers

Good warning OP. If newbies buys merit they may possibly have the account with negative trust from the DT network, and then the money spent to buy the merit, will be spent for nothing.
Very important to say is that the transactions are one-way, which is why if you give money it is not said that eventually the merits arrive.
This is an easy way to scam people with promises of merit that they will never get.

since bitcoin talk has launched a rule about merit point 1 is required for jr. member some of newbies buy merit points through ETH or BTC. but i think newbie can get 1 merit point if he/she post with logic and authentic.

This would be challenge, burning believe am up to the task. Like the word of cz binance; learn, understand and believe. But in this case, it is learn, understand and post.

Everything is not as difficult as it seems at first glance. More study the forum, communicate on different topics (not only in the thread of alternative discussions). Offer your interesting ideas on the forum. Write a post that people like and you will be thanked for it sooner or later. I, as well as the author, do not support the purchase of merit, this is not correct.

Newbie can get merits if someone give them merits. I think the right question that you're looking for is how would they give you merits. For someone to give you merits, you could make a good, informative post that might help others. Don't worry, there are lots of merit sources and if they see the potential of your posts , then they might give you one.

Personally, I think the merit issue for Jr.Member is very reasonable because that will help the forum become cleaner and restrict the cheater in the bounty, many will review their actions and contribute more positively and effectively to the forum. But in return, I still hope that the senior members and higher, even legends and veteran members, they should be positive and give merit to others if they are worthy because I see a lot of senior members ignoring those contributions, I can even say they are stingy and selfish when they are never encouraged for newbie or jr member

Money for copper membership instead of merit because copper membership will let you post images and can create good quality post with images or infographic then  you will get merited and also those who buy copper will be having a title of copper member under their username so choose wisely between buying copper or buying merit. Red trust ( merit trade ) or copper member ( helpful to post good quality post and add images ).

All these while from the beginning i never bothered to check out posts where some peoples have mentioned about "Merit" selling/purchasing. Until today i checked out some posts and realised merits are really available for purchase although it's merely disclosed. It's really very unfair option and i think purchasing merits won't actually help much, it's lack of patience, knowledge as well as all shit posts. Although peoples who are account farming might be able to grab much tokens by purchasing merits and participating in bounties offering an average level profile.

Another reason not to buy merits. You can lose them at any time.

If you buy merit, you are really slow.

When merit prices are higher ($14) than the copper membership ($12-13) and you have a risk of getting banned because of merit trading.

I still don't get the reason you would buy merit anyways unless like you are buying 10 to be a member.

Unfortunately, some might be too desperate to rank up for the sake of earning from bounties. It is very hard to control the buying and selling of merits since most of them really earns a lot from here and is gone because of the new merit system. So for all the newbies out here like me, dont buy merits for the sake of ranking up. Read, learn, and share. Dont chase after rewards, let rewards chase you. Good luck!

I agree, I think that if the forum administrator implemented this new rule, it is to reduce SPAM and low quality comments that do not do anyone any good. In fact, I am more than happy with this new rule even though it is more difficult for us new users to scale ranges. In the long run, this "trick" can become a business and end up ruining the forum, I hope that the few who read this can realize what we want to share.

Thank you for reading 

Since Bitcointalk has launched new requirements for Jr. Members (1 Merit) I heard this several times now: Newbies willing to buy one single Merit and pay with BTC (or ETH). It's no surprise, that many Newbies are shocked, when they saw their rank was downgraded. But in my opinion, this is nothing to worry about and after all it’s not worth at all to buy a Merit. I hope some Newbies will read this as Meta is now flooded with posts from them...

This upcoming trend to think about to buy a Merit makes me really sad and there are several reasons why someone should never buy a Merit:

1)
A Merit buy is considered as Merit trade and this is not allowed. If you do so, you risk your account to be tagged red from DT members. If you are tagged, this will mean your account is useless to participate in most Bounties. In addition you have to wear a new signature (or it’s more a personal text): Warning: Trade with extreme caution!
Do you want this? I think you don't, so don't buy a Merit.

2)
Why should you spend money for something, that you can achieve easily? It’s really not very difficult to earn 1 Merit, most likely a semi-helpful post can be enough.
But after all you’ll see how easy it can be if you try and get a Merit. The second one will follow if you keep up posting good comments and you will also get to know how it’s getting easier to post useful comments because you’ll not only earn Merit, you’ll also earn experience how good comments are made and improve your language and knowledge.
My advice: don’t buy your single Merit, earn it! And I’m sure you don’t want to stay a Jr. Member forever, to be a Member you need 10 Merit. This should be your next goal.

3)
If you buy Merit, you will help scammers to enter this Merit trading market and it's well known, that Newbies are not very experienced in spotting scams. You can see this in every Telegram group if some fake Admins PM users and try to scam them.

There are some new Merit sources now and a new bunch of sMerit was airdropped to existing Merit sources a few days ago, the circulating sMerit is now much more than before. It has never been easier to get a single Merit. You see: There is no reason to pay for a Merit.