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sr. member
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Let's Start a Cryptolution!!
March 15, 2013, 08:58:07 AM
#23
I don't even file my taxes. Havent since 09. Fuck em Bastards

Good luck with in your future endeavors!!  Huh
full member
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March 15, 2013, 08:39:05 AM
#22
..You do know there is no legal requirement or precedent for you to pay taxes...at all right? Just ask any former IRS Agent. They will tell you the same.
full member
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Poorer than I ought to be
March 15, 2013, 08:26:32 AM
#21
If you're living in a country with taxes, you are receiving the benefits of various public goods. If you don't think this is the case, go live in a tax haven - but if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong. Don't do that.

You are entitled to your opinion and so am I.  Piss off
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March 15, 2013, 08:14:54 AM
#20
if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong.

We pay taxes on gasoline, utility bills,  phone and every other type of purchase we make. We're already taxed enough. Plus, there's no reason to volunteer to give the government more money when they've already proven they can't manage what they already have.

+1

If you're living in a country with taxes, you are receiving the benefits of various public goods. If you don't think this is the case, go live in a tax haven - but if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong. Don't do that.
In my country most taxes are spent on war rather than public goods. I would happily pay my full amount if there were more libraries and parks rather than drones and bunker busting missiles. Just my .02.


+1

If you're living in a country with taxes, you are receiving the benefits of various public goods. If you don't think this is the case, go live in a tax haven - but if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong. Don't do that.
In my country most taxes are spent on war rather than public goods. I would happily pay my full amount if there were more libraries and parks rather than drones and bunker busting missiles. Just my .02.

Maybe choosing your representatives better would work?

PAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

Someone on this forum actually believes we choose the people who claim to represent us?


I lulz at this, hard
hero member
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March 15, 2013, 08:05:38 AM
#19
No tax to pay until you swap them for legal tender and then don't forget to remove your electricity costs, equipment costs, ASIC scam losses, to come to your final capital gains.
legendary
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March 15, 2013, 07:59:38 AM
#18
If you're living in a country with taxes, you are receiving the benefits of various public goods. If you don't think this is the case, go live in a tax haven - but if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong. Don't do that.
In my country most taxes are spent on war rather than public goods. I would happily pay my full amount if there were more libraries and parks rather than drones and bunker busting missiles. Just my .02.

Maybe choosing your representatives better would work?

PAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!

Someone on this forum actually believes we choose the people who claim to represent us?
full member
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March 15, 2013, 05:32:08 AM
#17
If you're living in a country with taxes, you are receiving the benefits of various public goods. If you don't think this is the case, go live in a tax haven - but if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong. Don't do that.

I have a different approach.
Since mining is basically solving problems, and whoever solves problems first wins, and there's an amount of luck involved in finding the block solution to get the reward, then mining can be considered gambling.
You might apply gambling tax rules which I believe that you pay standard 25% over $5000 http://www.irs.gov/publications/p505/ch01.html#en_US_2012_publink10007297
So if less than $5000 you don't pay taxes, unless I read incorrectly or the government tell me "nice try kid"...


On this note, Mining is a profession. So general income taxes would be suitable and under $20,000 (if single) iirc is exempt for fed. Now, that is gross income which includes your day job.
copper member
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March 15, 2013, 03:38:31 AM
#16
If you're living in a country with taxes, you are receiving the benefits of various public goods. If you don't think this is the case, go live in a tax haven - but if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong. Don't do that.
In my country most taxes are spent on war rather than public goods. I would happily pay my full amount if there were more libraries and parks rather than drones and bunker busting missiles. Just my .02.

Maybe choosing your representatives better would work?
newbie
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March 15, 2013, 03:34:36 AM
#15
If you're living in a country with taxes, you are receiving the benefits of various public goods. If you don't think this is the case, go live in a tax haven - but if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong. Don't do that.
In my country most taxes are spent on war rather than public goods. I would happily pay my full amount if there were more libraries and parks rather than drones and bunker busting missiles. Just my .02.
sr. member
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March 15, 2013, 02:45:38 AM
#14
if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong.

We pay taxes on gasoline, utility bills,  phone and every other type of purchase we make. We're already taxed enough. Plus, there's no reason to volunteer to give the government more money when they've already proven they can't manage what they already have.
copper member
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March 15, 2013, 02:39:51 AM
#14
If you're living in a country with taxes, you are receiving the benefits of various public goods. If you don't think this is the case, go live in a tax haven - but if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong. Don't do that.

I have a different approach.
Since mining is basically solving problems, and whoever solves problems first wins, and there's an amount of luck involved in finding the block solution to get the reward, then mining can be considered gambling.
You might apply gambling tax rules which I believe that you pay standard 25% over $5000 http://www.irs.gov/publications/p505/ch01.html#en_US_2012_publink10007297
So if less than $5000 you don't pay taxes, unless I read incorrectly or the government tell me "nice try kid"...
newbie
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March 15, 2013, 02:26:23 AM
#13
If you're living in a country with taxes, you are receiving the benefits of various public goods. If you don't think this is the case, go live in a tax haven - but if you're living in a first world country and not paying those taxes you are free-riding and morally in the wrong. Don't do that.
newbie
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March 15, 2013, 01:35:16 AM
#12
I have wondered this too. Even if you treat it like a commodity when you mine a coin what is your cost basis when you sell it, $0 or the price of electricity it took to mine it?
full member
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March 14, 2013, 11:13:29 PM
#11
I don't even file my taxes. Havent since 09. Fuck em Bastards

This, but if you must declare, it's capital gains tax and only if profit is realized (cashed out)
newbie
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March 14, 2013, 09:24:01 PM
#10
I don't even file my taxes. Havent since 09. Fuck em Bastards
newbie
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March 14, 2013, 08:47:23 PM
#9
Bitcoins should be seen as a commodity.
legendary
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newbie
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March 14, 2013, 07:34:36 PM
#7
Sounds great but the whole avoidance thing is risky. Unfortunately they report bank transfers to the IRS and the polish cards seem like they would take forever.
full member
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March 14, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
#6
Its really sad to keep seeing this question, its like a slave being let out of his cage, dosnt know where to go or what to do.


you have been given the tools of freedom, be creative, why contribute to there fiat money ponzi scheme that is creating hell on earth for many people foreign and domestic?

why not calculate your taxes owed, do some creative magic with bitcoin, take 10% off for you and yours then donate the rest to local charitable projects?
newbie
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March 14, 2013, 07:04:08 PM
#5
My issue is, they are not bonds or stocks. It will be far more difficult to prove what they were acquired for and I would hate to be taxed on the whole exchange and not just the profit gained in the exchange.
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