Topic: Decline of Marketplace activity/trading - page 2. (Read 1057 times)

Look philipma1957 - 1) Og announced he ran a ponzi.   2) Og announced he lost everything.  3) Og is now claiming his ponzi "received just as much grief and disrespect in spite of generating insane returns for investors that blow away any traditional investments and innovating new use cases for crypto that remain far ahead of their time nearly a decade later. "  He is hinting it was he, and not pirate that brought braindead ponzis into the crypto world.  What an ego.

Yes - he lost thousands of bitcoins, and he's trying to act the victim, and you are defending him.  Do you believe that bullshit, or do you trust him for financial gain?  As long as you trust him, and use hypocrisy as the reason you don't trust me, don't type our names as if we are equal. 

Stop deflecting from his theft.  Until he makes everyone he stole from whole, he cannot post as a regular member here without reaction. Do you expect me to say nothing while he lies?

Look vod and Og we are know you two fight over and over.

But it is not for this thread.

How to encourage people is simple show alt coin section more favor.

look at how much this section sees.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.80
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.120
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.160

four pages of threads for this month


Why is that?

Simple Alt coins are cheap and you can still get lucky.
Also they allow gpu mining which is quiet and can be done in your home.

OgNasty actually has 5 red flags, and I have one from his pal.  I was just pointing out how the ponzi scammer is complaining how he got negative trust for running a ponzi.

Is this what you meant in your PM threat?  You'll let everyone know how many red flags you think I have? 

Look who's talking. 3 flags, countless neg feedback but talking like he has anything to say here. Like all the other 20000 posts of this brainless tool.

OgNasty - do you mean the pirate passthrough that you ran?  You received the grief and disrespect for stealing everyone's coins - how can you not understand that?  Too much cocaine?

Fuck off with your pity, Mr. Trump.

I don't think it's limited just to altcoins.  My Bitcoin projects receive just as much grief and disrespect in spite of generating insane returns for investors that blow away any traditional investments and innovating new use cases for crypto that remain far ahead of their time nearly a decade later. 

The issue is a social one with the structure of this forum.  The attempt at a decentralized trust network has empowered those who want to spread lies and create alt accounts, while leaving honest members with a choice that they can look the other way at this behavior or have their trust negatively effected.  This crab in a bucket approach to trying to establish a trust network is one of the worst decisions I've seen a leader make and has directly impacted trading activity here as well as establishing a downward spiral in positive atmosphere.  If you speak out about these issues, you are ganged up on by the usual suspects, cast out of the DT network, and left with negative feedback from whatever made up story they push as the truth.  Until this horrible decision to empower trolls and scammers is rectified, this place can only trend in one direction...

I think the thresholds to rank up may be on the high side for merit. In the past, someone could make an average of one post per day and become a 'full member' after about 4 and a half months. Today, many members take much longer to become a full member due to the lack of merit. Granted, a large part of this is due to there being many spammers, and people that post very low quality posts, but I believe there are likely to be people that make good posts that are unable to rank up, or that after a few months of posting will give up on trying to rank up because the amount they are receiving is tracking to take a very long time for them to rank up.
The forum has very good search engine rankings. Any link posted on the forum will have their search engine rankings be improved. This is why so many spammers try to spam their links on the forum, even if the links appear for only a few minutes.

I would think it would be the opposite on both points. If someone has a recently appreciated asset, they can sell part of that asset and still have the same amount of money. I would say that previous bull runs saw an increase in forum trading activity when I would read threads without registering. I would also think a bull run would encourage people to buy some bitcoin and do things to try to make money with their bitcoin.

Thank you for proving and enforcing my point!

Let's start a rating system.  I would not be a good candidate as I have not traded much - but you could lay out a starting blueprint.  Then we could say with 100% certainty that 99.85% (or whatever the number is) of alt coins are shit.

While you make some good points, Internet trends have changed, etc., but this is bitcointalk, not altcointalk. At one point in time there were even discussions whether altcoins should be allowed on the forum in the first place.


Can you elaborate on the censorship? Many other venues will outright ban you if you start criticizing their pet project too much.

my 2c is literally no one talks about bitcointalk, outside of bitcointalk

no one references ANN threads anymore

Bitcointalk does nothing to grow/improve/innovate + the censorship on here, it's no mystery why bitcointalk is "dying"

Phil made a great point in another thread, ETH is literally BOOMING lol, the VoskCoin YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/voskcoin - is hitting all-time high metrics along with any other successful crypto anything -- so if bitcointalk is not doing well statistically they only have themselves to blame, if they even care, which they don't seem to.

I've been around for nearly 7 years and have been searching for a "good" altcoin for at least half of that time. Suffice it to say that I remain disappointed 99% of the time...
However, I would love to be proven wrong, obviously I haven't gone through tens of thousands of coins!
In order to not go off-topic any more than this here is a topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/introduce-me-to-an-alternative-cryptocurrency-that-you-think-is-good-5315116

Well if the bull market has any connection into the forum's marketplace activity I think it affected the users in a sense that they are more inclined on hodling their Bitcoin rather than spending it at the moment that is why you will see a lower activity in this areas. People who may have recently joined the forum will most likely go in the speculation or trading discussion sections since the price of Bitcoin is what drive them to join and this new members will most likely buy their Bitcoin on an exchange rather than in the forum and maybe some of our older members here also have done that. So for me this might not be a forum related issue but maybe it has something to do with the price of Bitcoin.

Although, I do agree with your observation I do  tend to think a little differently. I don't think the current price matters much at all, its the mindset of the people who are buying into Bitcoin. Most of the things you can buy with Bitcoin, you can buy with fiat. Fiat doesn't really have the potential to skyrocket like Bitcoin does. Evidence as suggested that many people have spent what was considered low value at the  time, but then given enough years, it would have been a better investment to purchase with fiat. Not everyone is exclusively into Bitcoin, and I would estimate that most people in Bitcoin treat it as a long term investment, that they set aside a certain amount of money each week/month, and invest based on that. They use their fiat currency to purchase goods.

The only difference would be the collectible section, as this tends to house things which aren't typically available for fiat.

Thank you for proving my point.


And for enforcing my point.

bitcoin maximalists  are the problem but I can see why they exist and of course stay here.

My signature has been there for years as it is what I believe in.

I don't have hatred towards BTC maxer's but they hurt the forum.

My thread  chains 1-9 in alts

 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/number-9-ninth-altcoin-thread-back-to-the-moon-baby-5144362

have many views.

I get grief from BTC maxers  the deal is alts are not   leaving accept the good ones.

Make a rating system whatever but "99% of alts are shit coins" turns off people.

Maybe you didnt notice the entire board is nearly dead? Even at a new ATH and what looks the start of a bullrun for alts?

So many contributing factors

 Merit was the sledgehammer that removed opportunity for new members.
Especially on the alt boards where all the traffic and volume was increasingly headed.
When you have a tiny tiny subs

Actually read these excellent and valuable posts lacking the swathes of merit they deserve to gain an understanding of how the forum operates and did operate before

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55248847

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55260532

I mean also when the trust system places proven scammers in DT and paints proven and tested scam hunters and those free of any peoven financially motivated wrongdoing who whilstblow on DT scammers as the bad guys..

Even the forum treasurer marked as a scammer and booted off DT by noob trash greedy proven scammer protecting and supporting scum?

Lol at people not trading or coming here anymore.

Actually for all the hate on alts they are the only future the forum has.
The forum works well as a hub. That is it's only future now that bitcoin has outgrown the place.

Bitcoin does not need bitcointalk. There will be some loyal enthusiasts that will stick around.
Bitcoin is now mainstream and everyone knows about it. They will all end up with some in their investment funds , pensions pots etc.

Bitcoin now has numerous outlets paypal, cards etc that be used to purchase stuff anywhere. Ebay amazon anywhere you can use visa or PayPal. No need to sell or buy here.

The forum works fantastic as a hub for alts. Much easier to use than reddit or twitter or any of that. Also has a huge advantage over them for allowing noobs to make a few bucks or it DID. Once that was removed the forum died.

You need newbies with the 50 bucks a week, their energy boasting to their pals about bct and making money, spamming their social media with links to bct from new projects that are launched here on the basis of them having that exact audience and launch energy.

The problem is the power was handed to a bunch of greedy self serving scumbags who simply want to milk the forum and cut off any competition via broken metrics they control. They are also either newbies who dont know shit or the most unsuccessful dreg loser elder members that still need to grovel around for btc dust due to being dumb fucks who could compete on a fair playing field for years with the successful members who are now multi millionaires and not going to put up with toeing the line to these turds.

Read. Understand. Agree.

Or debunk any of the points I've made.

This argument we dont want junior boards because it cuts of opportunity for new members is almost as dumb and bogus as merit and trust and sitting there wondering why nobody wants to join anymore lol.

Who wants to play monopoly when most of the property and land is sold already and then you're not even allowed to roll the dice unless we say so but we just keep passing the dice to each other whilst you get a slap for complaining it doesnt sound fair.

Lol you dumb shits. Hahah


Look it is simple

You bring new people in with opportunity to earn, they spread the word via WOM and social media spam, even their blabbering brings google traffic. They must be given fair and equal treatment immediately or wont stick around they have zero deference of gratification. They want to see instant opportunity.

All these people entice projects to launch here.

This all creates a synergy where it becomes a thriving hub.

Bitcoin and bitcoin investors have zero need to bct any more.

The forum did its job, it created a community around the project and took it mainstream.
It provided a place for people to buy and sell with this weird nerd money
Now these are not applicable.

Bitcointalk is altcoinhub or dead.

Bitcoin still gains because eventually most still want out to fait or bitcoin because as we know most alts have a short life cycle.  

Reddit Twitter all these can not compete with this forum if it plays to its strengths.. financial incentives.


Let's fixing it before it dies.

Transparent objective standards that ensure every member has a fair and equal chance at opportunity is the only way forward.

Strange how all the bitcoin maximalists mouthing off about shitcoins have no bitcoins either lol. Except a tiny handful.

Yet another of the most valuable posts made here ever that will receive zero merit.
Why because it demonstrates the status quo here is self destructive and only benefits a handful of people in meta who are afraid to compete on a fair transparent playing field.

Follow the gemz I provide and turn this place around. It almost looks like a deliberate attempt to kill the forum to me.
If so just get it over and turn the servers off, this spiral slow death with mini bumps of hope on bull runs on the way down to the eventual death rattle where all sponsorship leave then even the DT scum abandon it will just be too sad to watch.

To be honest I'd rather just use other such platforms. They have more of an audience unless it's some niche bitcoin thing, but if you want to sell regular goods there's many better sites and apps that you're likely going to have better success with.


I've suggested things like this in the past with people being able to buy banners at the top of certain sub boards so they can target their audience better ie a gambling site would advertise in the gambling section and so on, but theymos doesn't seem to care about it. In fact, he seems to be against more advertising or doesn't want banners everywhere, but I think they'd be better than sigs and even if people find them unsightly it can't be more unsightly that sig ads especially when they come along with spam. If he did want to generate more money - and that's not something he seems to be that bothered about right now - you could easily implement more donator ranks like I mentioned above and that would be a great source of passive income and one that doesn't involve unsightly banners or sigs.

99% of altcoins only have a price, they have neither purpose nor value. Unless you count being pumped and dumped as a purpose.

Respect is earned not given.

Nobody is "into ETH" they are all interested in making bets on the newest scam token and see if they can win some money.

Well I know this is Bitcointalk not cryptocoin talk.

But other coins 🪙 have purpose and value.

This forum has shown a lot of anger an disrespect toward  other coins.

Myself included.

This hurts the forum as a person into Eth may simply see the forum’s title and not look at it all.

In my observation incentive for spending bitcoin is very similar to incentive for selling bitcoin. It doesn't matter what the price is at any moment, how it got there is the important part. For example if the price were $100k now but it was reached by falling down from $400k then nobody would spend their bitcoin. Similarly if price was stuck at $100k and fluctuating wildly around that level. But if it was reached by jumping from $50k then everyone would be more than willing to spend their bitcoin.

We had that in 2017 when price shot up to $10k and it was 10x rise compared to the start of the year and people were spending their bitcoin 100x more. Then in 2018 when price fell spending stopped too.

Right now for once more price seems to be getting ready for a launch ergo people are hopeful for more profit so they hold on to their coins instead of spending/selling them.

Since the time of forum, nothing has changed except the rules and regulations which were mostly focused on how a user will get upgraded to the next level.
We needed the merit system, trust feedbacks etc. so that one can understand how a user is performing or more or less his/her generosity was calculated with it.
What we missed is, we did not add any fun to it. The forum became far more stricter (it should be) but it has started to give out feeling of corporate world with bossy managers around.

There has to be more fun ways to work around here. People should consider this as escape room from the real world to crypto space.

All I see here people going after merits, trying to upgrade themselves. Nothing different than what we do at our jobs. LOLZ.

Is this the reason we see less activity? (Less discussion, more spurious ways of earning  )

I guess yes. Most of the users are drifting from the proper agenda of the forum. There should be learning with the fun stuff around here. There needs to miraculous debates on technology, modesty of crypto workflow, blockchain and much more.

With the use of Merit system (which is surely a success) we saw quality posters emerging out of the forum and downfall of the spammers! But what after that? Just because all the knowledgable people came one under one roof does not mean we will contribute to this forum.

They need proper direction, agenda's which will make them think in one direction and give coolest outputs for the forum and other people's who are exploring this forum for specific knowledge.

How this will help Marketplace activity/ trading? (More discussion, publicity of forum, quality projects  )

Well, such quality thinkers can create new projects for the forums. Make continuous changes in the forum UI, it's outlook. Attract new investors and developing projects who will advertise here.

Forum has no way of outward marketing. I mean there could be hundreds of projects around the globe which are quality one and do not know about the BitcoinTalk itself. We are missing out them.

If they don't get registered on the forum, then we don't get the business. Marketplace has "Mega-Moves" based on the advertisers.

There should be Forum Stats section easily accessible to the outside companies which will show them to how many people they could reach easily? This would add confidence to the people who could be new investors of the forum. 

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Yet another strong everyone is talking is the following quote: Agree on this as well. If projects find it easier to publish on the other platforms as compared to the forum then we surely gonna loose the clients. They will just publish their social platforms here and flee once they get enough followers. Isn't it?


Of course encouraging LN is not the way but it's an alternative.

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   We are not using BTC Million Dollar Space!BTC   

We can easily publish the precious data in the space as shown in the SS. It is the first thing you see every-time you visit the Home / log in / Any Section or Board of the forum.

It could be literally used for anything from the Advertising of Projects to the Auctions or New releases. This will help direct the users to the specific target in no time. The space is completely useless at this point. One can publish hell lot of things here.

It could generate decent income for the forum and can also help advertisers to reach new level of audience.




For example, an auctioneer can decide to publish his Service Link in this space with the images to attract new buyers easily. They could share x% to the forum for using that space. Tell me if this won't help? It could be amazing way of publication and revenue generation.

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Many ways are there to increase the activity and income on this forum. The only thing is we need an agenda, explorer team and developers for the same.