Default Ignore List: A Humble Proposal - page 2.

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Quote from: ytktrytktr on May 16, 2015, 11:27:29 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 16, 2015, 11:17:05 AM

I don't like this feature. There shouldn't be a "default ignore list". The tastes of users are different and hence, their ignore list.

You can't compare default trust list with default ignore list. Those are basically two different things except both are "default".

@dogie re. "No one would see their expanded posts (by default), and they won't necessarily know it."

Sure, just like Default Trust. Where do you see a difference?

The major function of a forum is to post, this would inhibit that. Trading/trusting another user is not the major function of the forum.

Quote from: alani123 on May 16, 2015, 11:30:43 AM

You are free to post your ignore list, as many other users have done. I'd appreciate if we had a way to massively ignore people by just copy-pasting their usernames in a field actually. Right now I'm ignoring certain trolls when I stumble upon them and sharing the created list is a bit hard.

But I don't think that ignore lists should be public (unless one would like to share his own publicly) for the simple reason that they can be personal.

You can bulk edit here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;sa=ignprefs

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Quote from: alani123 on May 16, 2015, 11:30:43 AM

You are free to post your ignore list, as many other users have done. I'd appreciate if we had a way to massively ignore people by just copy-pasting their usernames in a field actually. Right now I'm ignoring certain trolls when I stumble upon them and sharing the created list is a bit hard.

But I don't think that ignore lists should be public (unless one would like to share his own publicly) for the simple reason that they can be personal.

You misunderstand my proposal. The Default Ignore List will be enabled by default when a new user joins this forum. Just like Default Trust is enabled, by default, when a new user joins the forum. By default.

According to your logic, people could also just post their Trust Lists, yet that's not how the Default Trust works.
We're here to protect new users.
You don't want newbies to start with an empty trust list, do you?

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You are free to post your ignore list, as many other users have done. I'd appreciate if we had a way to massively ignore people by just copy-pasting their usernames in a field actually. Right now I'm ignoring certain trolls when I stumble upon them and sharing the created list is a bit hard.

But I don't think that ignore lists should be public (unless one would like to share his own publicly) for the simple reason that they can be personal.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 16, 2015, 11:17:05 AM

I don't like this feature. There shouldn't be a "default ignore list". The tastes of users are different and hence, their ignore list.

You can't compare default trust list with default ignore list. Those are basically two different things except both are "default".

How so? Just like Default trust, Default Ignore is not mandatory & can be simply altered through account settings panel. It's simply a suggestion, like Default Trust, something to help new users.

@dogie re. "No one would see their expanded posts (by default), and they won't necessarily know it."

Sure, just like Default Trust. Where do you see a difference?

@redsn0w re. "the 'ignore' is a subjective and personal thing and a default ignore list is not really necessary"

No more subjective than Default Trust, and far less dangerous. The system will punish the Level 1 and Level 2 users who unjustly or needlessly add names to the Default List. They won't last too long on Level 1 or Level 2.
Just Like Default Trust.

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Quote from: ytktrytktr on May 16, 2015, 11:16:28 AM

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@redsn0w: My Default Ignore list will make what I'm currently doing irrelevant.
You, being on Level 2 Default Ignore, will quickly spot my shenanigans, and add my username to the Default Ignore List.
Problem solved.

It's easy to criticize, gentlemen, but which one of you is willing to propose a better solution?

Your proposal is not better than the actual system, however I am not saying the actual is 'good' but..... In any case the 'ignore' is a subjective and personal thing and a default ignore list is not really necessary (in my honest opinion).

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So if someone was on the DefaultIgnore list, they'd essentially be shadowbanned right? No one would see their expanded posts (by default), and they won't necessarily know it.

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I don't like this feature. There shouldn't be a "default ignore list". The tastes of users are different and hence, their ignore list.

You can't compare default trust list with default ignore list. Those are basically two different things except both are "default".

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Quote from: notlist3d on May 16, 2015, 11:09:20 AM

I think it's a horrible idea. It would only lead to people trying to do multiple accounts if they were on this "ignore list". The best way is to use your own ignore, and if they are really bad report it.

With OP only having 1 post, I wonder if this is a possible trolling attempt.

Not at all. Some may create new accounts to circumvent the Default Ignore, but this currently happens with Default Trust. Soon the alts will be spotted & added to the Default Ignore.
Works no different from Default Trust.

@redsn0w: My Default Ignore list will make what I'm currently doing irrelevant.
You, being on Level 2 Default Ignore (I already like the cut of your jib, a sharp fellow like yourself can be useful), you'll quickly spot my shenanigans, and add my username to the Default Ignore List.
Problem solved.

It's easy to criticize, gentlemen, but which one of you is willing to propose a better solution?

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Quote from: notlist3d on May 16, 2015, 11:09:20 AM

Quote from: Vod on May 16, 2015, 11:05:16 AM

Quote from: ytktrytktr on May 16, 2015, 11:00:11 AM

Gentlemen.

The amount of inane and misleading posts on this forum has become overwhelming. To assist new users in separating the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, I propose a solution: my Default Ignore List.

Implementation should be trivial: the code will be virtually identical to the Default Trust List. A new user, "Default Ignore," will be at the root of the list.
Level 1 ignore list will consist of myself and users I consider to be constructive and relevant.
Those a part of Level 1 will be able to both add to the default ignore list (the list of posters which won't be seen by default),
and add the names of those they deem worthy to Level 2 Default (who will also have the right to add to the list of posters to be ignored).

If a user is dissatisfied with the Default Ignore List (good God, why?!), he may unsubscribe from all or parts of said list through his account's profile settings.
Thus, in the manner of the Trust List, fully personalized lists may be created, etc., etc.

Thoughts, gentlemen?

Wouldn't that equate to censorship?

I think it's a horrible idea. It would only lead to people trying to do multiple accounts if they were on this "ignore list". The best way is to use your own ignore, and if they are really bad report it.

With OP only having 1 post, I wonder if this is a possible trolling attempt.

Yes I think the same, it is not really a good idea and for the question of the newbie account maybe he is only trying to hid his main account (but I can't understand why he doesn't post from that other account).

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Quote from: Vod on May 16, 2015, 11:05:16 AM

Quote from: ytktrytktr on May 16, 2015, 11:00:11 AM

Gentlemen.

The amount of inane and misleading posts on this forum has become overwhelming. To assist new users in separating the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, I propose a solution: my Default Ignore List.

Implementation should be trivial: the code will be virtually identical to the Default Trust List. A new user, "Default Ignore," will be at the root of the list.
Level 1 ignore list will consist of myself and users I consider to be constructive and relevant.
Those a part of Level 1 will be able to both add to the default ignore list (the list of posters which won't be seen by default),
and add the names of those they deem worthy to Level 2 Default (who will also have the right to add to the list of posters to be ignored).

If a user is dissatisfied with the Default Ignore List (good God, why?!), he may unsubscribe from all or parts of said list through his account's profile settings.
Thus, in the manner of the Trust List, fully personalized lists may be created, etc., etc.

Thoughts, gentlemen?

Wouldn't that equate to censorship?

I think it's a horrible idea. It would only lead to people trying to do multiple accounts if they were on this "ignore list". The best way is to use your own ignore, and if they are really bad report it.

With OP only having 1 post, I wonder if this is a possible trolling attempt.

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Quote from: Vod on May 16, 2015, 11:05:16 AM

Wouldn't that equate to censorship?

Not at all.
A user is free to make his own trust list by changing his account settings, no one is forcing him to use the default. It's merely a suggestion.
Like default trust.

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Quote from: ytktrytktr on May 16, 2015, 11:00:11 AM

Gentlemen.

The amount of inane and misleading posts on this forum has become overwhelming. To assist new users in separating the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, I propose a solution: my Default Ignore List.

Implementation should be trivial: the code will be virtually identical to the Default Trust List. A new user, "Default Ignore," will be at the root of the list.
Level 1 ignore list will consist of myself and users I consider to be constructive and relevant.
Those a part of Level 1 will be able to both add to the default ignore list (the list of posters which won't be seen by default),
and add the names of those they deem worthy to Level 2 Default (who will also have the right to add to the list of posters to be ignored).

If a user is dissatisfied with the Default Ignore List (good God, why?!), he may unsubscribe from all or parts of said list through his account's profile settings.
Thus, in the manner of the Trust List, fully personalized lists may be created, etc., etc.

Thoughts, gentlemen?

Wouldn't that equate to censorship?

ytktrytktr

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Gentlemen.

The amount of inane and misleading posts on this forum has become overwhelming. To assist new users in separating the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, I propose a solution: my Default Ignore List.

Implementation should be trivial: the code will be virtually identical to the Default Trust List. A new user, "Default Ignore," will be at the root of the list.
Level 1 ignore list will consist of myself and users I consider to be constructive and relevant.
Those a part of Level 1 will be able to both add to the default ignore list (the list of posters which won't be seen by default),
and add the names of those they deem worthy to Level 2 Default (who will also have the right to add to the list of posters to be ignored).

If a user is dissatisfied with the Default Ignore List (good God, why?!), he may unsubscribe from all or parts of said list through his account's profile settings.
Thus, in the manner of the Trust List, fully personalized lists may be created, etc., etc.

Thoughts, gentlemen?

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