Topic: default trust member was trying to extort from me, left negative feedback (Read 3573 times)

Any solution to this yet? Onewiseguy has followed the rules and shouldn't be penalised. If the original user was really scammed its his fault, as he decided to hand over the account without an escrow or asking for payment first, he had a high trust rating to demand so. Even if he was scammed, he should have negatively marked the account to prevent it from getting sold again.

On the balance, it seems gambitv tried to make double on the same account and this is a case of blackmail and extortion. Yet another example of CanaryInTheMine's liberal trusted list.

What a unwise attitude from default trust

There a "bug" on default trust system  
and must be revise immediately

They're away for the holidays. Wait till BadBear gets back and PM him, though I don't know what level he'll get involved in if at all.

Can I get an admin on here to read this.

Here is the conversation between gumble and myself, about the sale.

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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: July 31, 2014, 05:57:14 AM »
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Quote from: onewiseguy on July 28, 2014, 08:12:12 AM
what do you have for sell?

Hello onewiseguy, please check my account  list on my thread.
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 01, 2014, 06:35:09 AM »
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Quote from: onewiseguy on July 31, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Account #2 up coming when will you have this one ?
Account #5 (266 - 336 activity +, registered in 2011, with avatar) - 0.45 BTC will you take .4 for this one? I will buy straight no escrow.
also can you tell me what is the avatar ?

also for the accounts what will be coming with them?


Hello, currently I have a buyer for this account who is willing to pay 0.45 BTC for It, but if he wont respond soon I will sell It to you. Avatar is a serious man just staring, with dark green soldier clothes with dark green cap.

I will let you know when I have Hero Member #2

Also I can offer you these accounts :

Account #2 (266 - 280 activity +, registered in 2013) - 0.35 BTC

Account #4 (308 - 322 activity +, registered in 2013) - 0.45 BTC

for account #4 price is little negotiable, thanks.
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 06:14:11 AM »
Quote from: onewiseguy on August 01, 2014, 02:00:34 PM
Okay i can pay .45 for it right now

Hello, sorry for the wait, I can sell you the account now. Please let me know when you are ready. Thanks.
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 01:04:22 PM »
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Quote from: onewiseguy on August 01, 2014, 02:00:34 PM
Okay i can pay .45 for it right now

Also If I will not be online when you will be, here is my BTC address: 1Doa3kuCnNnBBZSpFrMsjdpe56mHotg258


Send  0.45 BTC to It and when I'll come online I will pm you account username and password, but hopefully I will be online.

this is the account:

Account #5 (266 - 336 activity +, registered in 2011, with avatar) - 0.45 BTC

Thanks
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 04:28:15 PM »
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Okay already sent for Account #5 (266 - 336 activity +, registered in 2011, with avatar) - 0.45 BTC

Hello, I will handle you the account in few minutes when transaction gets 1 confirmation, thanks.
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 04:32:14 PM »
The confirmation should come soon, also are you still interested in Hero member account?
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 04:33:19 PM »

username: Jazkal

password: nikito555
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 05:11:07 PM »
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Hello, you were interested in Hero Member account before? Are you interested in this one?

Hero Member (910 activity +, registered in 2011, with avatar (some kind of symbols), neutral trust)  for 1.2 BTC

If you are, please send 1.2 BTC to this address: 1Doa3kuCnNnBBZSpFrMsjdpe56mHotg258

I will send you username and password via pm. Thanks.







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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 03, 2014, 02:16:36 PM »
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 You bought this account from gumble99... Gumble99 didn't payed the bitcoins for this account to the true owner. So, if gumble99 won't pay, your account get some negative trust. Please pm gumble99 to avoid this.

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« Sent to: gambitv on: August 03, 2014, 07:17:22 PM »
can you explain to me why this is so  are you the original owner of this account?


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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 03, 2014, 07:37:44 PM »
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No, I am a friend of Jazkal.

The deal was that gumble99 sells the account of Jazkal for 0.35 Btc. Jazkal gave gumble99 the account details and gumble99 changed them ... Two days past and jazkal never received bitcoins from gumble99...
Please get in contact with gumble99 and tell him he should pay. Otherwise, Jazkals account and gumble99 account will get negative trust and your primedice campaign is finished before it started…



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« Sent to: gambitv on: August 04, 2014, 03:25:26 AM »
Thank you for the concern, I will need your friend to contact me directly.  I will try to get in contact with the seller. Your friend made the deal with gum not with me. trying to put a negative on the account I purchased. will be reported to admin. For there was no trade with you or your friend by this account and will be falsely done. 

As stated above I will need your friend the past (owner of this account).  Have your friend contact the seller no need for you to be threatening me.

Thank you.


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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 04, 2014, 10:44:09 AM »
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My friend does not have an account anymore. To contact him use this mail address: [email protected].

However, 24 hours left and both accounts get negative trusted.



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« Sent to: Gumble99 on: August 04, 2014, 02:51:20 PM »
Quote from: Gumble99 on August 01, 2014, 06:28:38 AM
Hello Jazkal, I found a buyer for your account, he is willing to buy for 0.4 BTC, do you have an escrow? because escrow.ms is not responding for days. If you have an escrow please pm his username so I can contact him or just simply give me your password and I sell It ,as buyer said he will go first to me without escrow. I would charge 0.015 BTC for this trade so you would get 0.385 BTC, let me know.

Hey man I see you sold the account to me for more than what was being sold. .4 BTC and you sold it for .45 BTC. also some dude keeps saying you never paid him for the account.



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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 05, 2014, 11:22:15 PM »
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I don't care, this account is a stolen good. Believe me, no member wants do trade with someone who has negativ trust and/or a bought account... also, your enrolled sig-campaign will be flushed...

I will give you 18 hours to get in contact with gumble99 and ask him to pay jazkal. Otherwise, you can pay 0.35 BTC to 1DnYAd2WzGHyxNzxqmCcGV4CM6QHE2FBti.

I hate scams, and this will stop here...






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« Sent to: gambitv on: August 05, 2014, 01:02:07 AM »
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leaving this account with negative because Your friend and gum did not complete the transaction. is on them. Now as for me I paid. and well i have proof of this so if you leave a negative saying you dealt with me then we will have a problem.   you or your friend can contact gum. I don't need to do anything. threatening me and this account is a no go mate.



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Done!!!






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« Sent to: gambitv on: August 06, 2014, 12:08:02 AM »
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yea sure ill pay you . so I get screwed and pay double  its okay I am not here for trading.  And I will report you to the admin for blackmail. The emails back and forth is enough. I am not responsible in trying to contact gum "seller".  I already sent him an email he didint respond.  your friend should of taken payment from seller. Why would he give the details first without payment from the seller? ether  your "friend" is stupid or its you. and your trying to pin it on me.   Seems scammy for what I see.  go right ahead leave a false negative comment that you traded with me. I will do the same.

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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 06, 2014, 12:28:13 AM »
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Find Gumble99! We are also looking for this bastard….



and he is what was left on the account jackal from original owner i believe



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Hey Gumble99,

I want to sell my account for at least 0.35 BTC. Do you use escrow? Please pm me for more details.
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Hi,

okay, that sounds good.

I want this deal with escrow.ms. Please list my account in your offers.

How long do you think it will take until my account is sold?
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« Sent to: Gumble99 on: August 01, 2014, 10:50:55 PM »
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thats nice, I will trust you:

Password: j4zkal007

Please send bitcoins to  1DnYAd2WzGHyxNzxqmCcGV4CM6QHE2FBti

Don't try to scam please, a negativ trust on this account wouldn't be nice...

For further communication: [email protected]

Possibly, but I don't think he's smart enough to hack accounts or cover his tracks. I have definitely pissed Candy off in the very recent past though, but it's not exactly hard to vex that childish scammer anyway.

I think this person is probably Candystripes. Candy had made very vague threats against someone in the currency exchange forum, similar to the vague threats this person is making. I believe that he also was dealing in accounts as well

If you actually knew anything you would just post it. The only reason you asked me to name my alleged hypothetical accounts is in the hope that I would just reveal them myself. I'm sure you would love to smugly revel in the kudos of bringing down a (non-existent) corrupt mod, but obviously you don't have anything other than incorrect assumptions at the very most (maybe you know of someone else's dodgy alts or something and if you do you should speak up and create a scam accusation. I guarantee it won't have anything to do with me.).


It is awesome. Never a day goes by without some sort of drama.


There was no point in you posting in the first place. You also don't need to post that you're not posting anymore. Just lead by example and disappear or at least move onto the next alt you can cowardly hide behind whilst you fling shit.

Simple don't use that email ([email protected]) , you can also use a gmail email address (with the 2FA).  The email verification will be a best option for this forum , I think it is right to add it .

See this post why that may actually be a step in the opposite direction in terms of protecting account security

Ok ROFL this has gone way off topic there is no point in me replying anymore as nobody will listen.

This forum is awesome , but why don't put a simple email verification ( are we "talking" in a bitcointalk forum? bitcoin = security , but it doesn't give the security to the members community. I think it will more efficacy a simple email verification , and for theymos will be a relief not to have to receive all those PMs to "recovery"  the accounts)  ~  It will prevent all these types of problem (hacked account , etc...) .

He pissed offbitpop a lot when he opened a random scam accusation against him with zero validity.

Stealing accounts via whatever deceptive methods you use isn't scamming?

A scammer is someone who defrauds a victim by deception. I don't do that, I'm not a scammer. I may troll, but I'm not trolling about you and I will expose your accounts if I have to.

What does bitpop have to do with this, and so you hack accounts to do what with them exactly? Troll for fun? How do you make money if you're not selling them? Scammers and trolls (which you are both) do more damage to this forum than 'sig spammers' ever will.

So you admit to hacking RiverBoadBTC?

This is probably the closest to the truth. He obviously deals in accounts in some capacity and is trying to cause a fuss around what he sees as competition. Though I think he may actually genuinely believe I'm involved in some business that I'm not, but he doesn't have anything other than incorrect suspicions and assumption.


Quite clearly you don't put too much effort into your 'thoughts' or accusations.

I am not sure what you are claiming to be a lie It isn't like your trust isn't obvious trolling as there is 0 evidence attached to them, plus anytime someone leaves multiple negative trust reports their credibility declines.

For the record, no I am not BTCTalkAccounts. I try to avoid dealing with hacked accounts. As I am fairly certain you said to me (via RiverBoatBTC)

From the time you started trolling onward really should be split into another thread as your trolling has caused this to get very offtopic

ROFL! and I thought that BTCTalkAccounts = You.

Guess I'll have to leave you another neg for spreading lies.