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Fishbones78
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Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 05, 2015, 07:57:41 PM
#22
Quote from: lissandra on August 05, 2015, 07:43:29 PM
my question to you op, since you have a decent rep was why didnt you just pull back your money with pp or chargeback saying you bought something?

and you never got the product or some story which they happily recourse the transaction.
I'm doing that right now, but it always takes 8 days to escalate a case for PayPal review. I'll post here the outcome, although I'm pretty confident I will win Smiley
lissandra
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 05, 2015, 07:43:29 PM
#21
my question to you op, since you have a decent rep was why didnt you just pull back your money with pp or chargeback saying you bought something?

and you never got the product or some story which they happily recourse the transaction.
alva5763
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 05, 2015, 01:42:38 PM
#20
Fishbones78
 This was email of john20
 [email protected]
letyouearn
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 04, 2015, 11:51:09 PM
#19
Quote from: Fishbones78 on August 04, 2015, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Quickseller on August 04, 2015, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: Fishbones78 on August 04, 2015, 12:20:02 PM
The PayPal address was:
[email protected]
Why didn't you search his email address before sending money to him?

Googling that email, comes back with this as a first result.

This is what that person's trust ratings looks like:
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   Reference   Comments
Quickseller 86: -0 / +18   2015-05-18   0.00000000   Reference   Newbie giving large discounts for PayPal my cash cards and refusing escrow (you need to send first of course).

I would avoid trading with this person without escrow.
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Tomatocage 211: -0 / +26   2015-05-09   0.00000000      PayPal Mycash scammer. I'll remove this once a pic of the receipt is posted proving these cards were paid for in cash.
That's a good tip, I'll search emails in future trades like you said, the first result is a scam accusation against him.
Cheers Smiley

Always check and do inquiry about the person with whom you are going to deal with. It will avoid much more chances of getting scam .
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 04, 2015, 01:54:42 PM
#18
Quote from: alva5763 on August 04, 2015, 01:53:25 PM
As this is for bitcoins will Paypal refund you? You are on a similar thread that I started.
I'm pretty certain they will because of the whole seller protection violation garbage, I also suspect John20 may be the same person as this guy, what email did you send John20's payment to?
alva5763
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 04, 2015, 01:53:25 PM
#17
As this is for bitcoins will Paypal refund you? You are on a similar thread that I started.
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 04, 2015, 01:29:46 PM
#16
Quote from: Quickseller on August 04, 2015, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: Fishbones78 on August 04, 2015, 12:20:02 PM
The PayPal address was:
[email protected]
Why didn't you search his email address before sending money to him?

Googling that email, comes back with this as a first result.

This is what that person's trust ratings looks like:
Quote
   Reference   Comments
Quickseller 86: -0 / +18   2015-05-18   0.00000000   Reference   Newbie giving large discounts for PayPal my cash cards and refusing escrow (you need to send first of course).

I would avoid trading with this person without escrow.
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Tomatocage 211: -0 / +26   2015-05-09   0.00000000      PayPal Mycash scammer. I'll remove this once a pic of the receipt is posted proving these cards were paid for in cash.
That's a good tip, I'll search emails in future trades like you said, the first result is a scam accusation against him.
Cheers Smiley
Quickseller
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 04, 2015, 12:28:45 PM
#15
Quote from: Fishbones78 on August 04, 2015, 12:20:02 PM
The PayPal address was:
[email protected]
Why didn't you search his email address before sending money to him?

Googling that email, comes back with this as a first result.

This is what that person's trust ratings looks like:
Quote
   Reference   Comments
Quickseller 86: -0 / +18   2015-05-18   0.00000000   Reference   Newbie giving large discounts for PayPal my cash cards and refusing escrow (you need to send first of course).

I would avoid trading with this person without escrow.
Quote
Tomatocage 211: -0 / +26   2015-05-09   0.00000000      PayPal Mycash scammer. I'll remove this once a pic of the receipt is posted proving these cards were paid for in cash.
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 04, 2015, 12:20:02 PM
#14
Quote from: Tomatocage on August 04, 2015, 09:58:17 AM
I hope you understand the reason why he wants you to cancel the case. That is, once you cancel it, it can no longer be disputed again. What was the address you sent to?
I know, I put that in the case and in the private messages to him, but he still relentlessly wants me to cancel, lol.
The PayPal address was:
[email protected]
He also operates this website:
http://btcearnerz.tk/
GriffinHeart
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Hello there!
Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 04, 2015, 10:16:07 AM
#13
Isn't it cute how he doesn't respond any more. Bring out the eggs and toilet paper!
Tomatocage
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 04, 2015, 09:58:17 AM
#12
I hope you understand the reason why he wants you to cancel the case. That is, once you cancel it, it can no longer be disputed again. What was the address you sent to?
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 04, 2015, 07:31:37 AM
#11
Still awaiting BTC so I'm definitely not getting it. Also, I put 0.021 BTC in the post, it was actually 0.21 BTC ($60). PayPal case is still open with him still requesting I close the case, which isn't happening.
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 02, 2015, 11:03:34 AM
#10
Quote from: Christian1998 on August 02, 2015, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: Fishbones78 on August 02, 2015, 10:57:15 AM
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Re: (No subject)
Send me the BTC now (if you even have it) or I'm done speaking with you. You're clearly a scammer and you must think I'm an idiot. PayPal case stays open until the BTC arrives with me, or customer support intervenes and gives me my money back.
You get your money back from PayPal but not from the scammer. Give this guy a bad trusting!
Don't waste your time with him!
The latest message, I'm just ignoring him now whilst laughing at his messages. Thanks for the support by the way.
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
hello dear kindly cancell it
please dear.....
(*There was an image of our case here*)
if you donot want i will refund it but please cancell it ..just for 2mints
Christian1998
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 02, 2015, 10:59:22 AM
#9
Quote from: Fishbones78 on August 02, 2015, 10:57:15 AM
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Re: (No subject)
Send me the BTC now (if you even have it) or I'm done speaking with you. You're clearly a scammer and you must think I'm an idiot. PayPal case stays open until the BTC arrives with me, or customer support intervenes and gives me my money back.
You get your money back from PayPal but not from the scammer. Give this guy a bad trusting!
Don't waste your time with him!
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 02, 2015, 10:57:15 AM
#8
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Re: (No subject)
Send me the BTC now (if you even have it) or I'm done speaking with you. You're clearly a scammer and you must think I'm an idiot. PayPal case stays open until the BTC arrives with me, or customer support intervenes and gives me my money back.
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 02, 2015, 10:53:32 AM
#7
The final nail in the coffin to safely say this guy is a scammer:
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
yes ,kindly cancell it ,i will send you btc as you cancelled it
you can make it again if i donot send you btc
i will pay you in max 2mints after cancelling it

You can't reopen a PayPal case, he is lying. There is also no reason for him to wait for me to cancel the case anyway by his logic.
PayPal case is staying open and will not be closed unless I receive payment (which I probably won't).
Christian1998
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 02, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
#6
-Rep
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 02, 2015, 10:46:07 AM
#5
Personal Message from seller:
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!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!
kindly cancell it iam able to pay you btc now
Reply from me:
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Please send the BTC first, if I close the case and you still don't pay, I can't get my money back.
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 02, 2015, 10:37:54 AM
#4
Quote from: iamalive on August 02, 2015, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: Fishbones78 on August 02, 2015, 10:28:23 AM
I have paid for 0.021 BTC but am still waiting an hour later, with repeated "I am sending now" in my private messages for the BTC to be sent. I made this thread as the following was being discussed on somebody else's thread:
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Quote from: DARKCHANGE on August 02, 2015, 08:21:02 AM
Just updated the price / rates overview.
Hi,
What would You offer for 0.05 BTC (PP)?
Cheers
hello
iam out of pm here yes you can send in GB....
thats the reason iam informing here
iam waiting
I have sent. My address is:
12ni588gxUPvbMuZVcZZDDFZqkEa6xTg96
yes just recived ..iam goin to do it
Still waiting.
Still no BTC, possible scammer (iamalive).
i have problem with two factor in my lbtc account...going to send you soon
It's been almost an hour since I paid.
If I don't have the BTC by half past I want a refund or I will open a PayPal case, this is way too fishy. If I receive the BTC after I open the case, I will close it.

open a case as i paid you ,you will cancell it
i have contacted with localbitcoins to solve my issue




open a case as i paid you ,you will cancell it
i have contacted with localbitcoins to solve my issue
Edit:yes i have not paid you..you open case as i pay you you will cancell it i have problem with my BTc account
Okay, I will open it now. If I receive the BTC I will close it. Let me know when it is sent.
Fishbones78
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Re: Definite Scam - Paid But Still Awaiting BTC
August 02, 2015, 10:34:26 AM
#3
You have not paid me, or if you have, you've sent it to the wrong address. BTC now or I'm opening a case, you shouldn't have offered to sell BTC if you don't have it.
https://blockchain.info/address/12ni588gxUPvbMuZVcZZDDFZqkEa6xTg96
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