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I also helped and sent address. No response.

Updates?

Seems like he logged in a few days ago.  I never received any sort of update, has anyone else? 

So I quoted all of OP's responses itt in case he decided to delete some more.  If anyone has a quote/archive of the OP I'd appreciate it being sent to me.  I was going to post all of them here for posterity but mbitcasino responded (very very quickly) to my inquiry, letting me know that they reached an agreement but he disappeared on them as well, so I'm assuming that they haven't sent him the funds yet.  A very odd situation.

Nothing back from op.
He got my btc address and told me I was one of the participants with him to recover funds and would be paid along with Peeps place. From then nothing yet.

He aknowlegded my help, reserved space below my post and asked for further help if required. I already gave him my BTC address, but did not hear anything since...

OP took my advice early on in this process and it seemed to have worked for him, seeing as he's gotten paid in full.  He asked for my btc address over a week ago to send payment and I've yet to receive it or any communication from him since the claim that he's gotten paid.  I reached out to him over a day ago asking what the status was with everything and have yet to hear back from him.

From the above member's post, it seems you should of taken that person's advice and close/lock this thread until they pay you out and confirmed by them it has been sent.
Because this comment right there can cause you to not get anything back cause of the bad press that this post alone can cause them and their company's reputation.

I hope my advice would of "helped you" in receiving your claiming result if you indeed get anything back from this public case.

Edit on Feb 28th nearly 120 hours after player had received their claim from mbitcasino case:
User Lazypolarbears has not comeback since getting payment from this casino in question. It does make it look like those that have participated in helping him get back his winnings and bailed him out did not get paid any compensation for doing so.
Very sad state of things going on and this thread should not be deleted as a sign of how do not go by the word of somebody who has gambled and needs help out of their gambling state of affairs. Cause they can not pay up in the long run.

What they did to you is fully immoral and unethical. They are stealing money as their intention was to never pay so they come up with a devious plan to steal your coins. I hope you recover it and thanks for the warning!

It seems that mBitCasino is an honest casino, they pay every player and want to terminate this case, it is a good business example of how to operate a casino.

It has been 48 hours right?
Has the o.p been paid back his losses or was it assumed the casino won this from him breaching the t.o.s rules of creating multiple accounts?
Since there is no response I am thinking the later and this case is close in favor of the casino.
If the former, then o.p should post who helped and how  much he is going to pay out for the bounty's for the help the community has provided to you to win this case against them.
Unless he was here just to create a p.m.s moment and gather sympathy with no intention of paying anyone.

Out of curiosity since the sites are able to detect multiple accounts on the same IP, why don't they just ban players as soon as it happens ? Why do they always let them continue to deposit and only ban them when they have a withdrawal or something ?

Even though there was a breach in rules by the player, mBitCasino has agreed to pay the player.  All parties have agreed to refrain from further discussion on this matter.

This thread will be deleted within 48-72 hours of [redacted's] approval.

The only scam here from what I can see based on the evidence is the OP trying to scam them with his multiple accounts in order to gain an unfair advantage against the casino by claiming multiple sign up bonuses. Then when he get caught his response is to monkey tilt and reg a bunch of domains and try to extort the casino.

Yeah this guy is a real class act.

Then you just need to say if want0sell contributed anything constructive to the thread to help in your efforts with this claim.
That's all you had to say in the first place and save all this blabbering nonsense like a bunch of useless women.
As President Trump would have said!  
Damn immigrant doesn't know that he is supporting a person who with out a flinch to deport his ass back to his shitty country that is overpopulated with shitheads who have nothing better to do than scam and proceed in slandering others for profit.
Better to lock this shit down until after you get your answer about your claim.
That's what you should of done in the first place from what they told you about making it known publically about it being closed in the first place.
Once bitten twice shy come to play here?

Guys, please play nice. No reason to hurt or attack each other over a forum.

(I don't think this counts as a "post" that I'm not allowed to post for 48hrs).

Great answer your an indian pos that comes to america and wastes our electricity on post such garbage.
You should be sent back just like the other 11 million illegals in this country that are not paying any taxes because they are not registered in this country in the first place.
So what do you have to say about "my ohhh so broken english" about that?
pos loser!
Your answers are useless to anyone here so get back to cleaning the toliet at 7-11.
Pm's say he is not giving you shit so just give it up already.
And he has said that "I WAS THE ONE!" that helped him out on this one.
Second post on the thread fucker! So suck my big and fat internet dick. MTHfCKR! BAHAHAHHAA!

Maybe a suggest to lock it so idiots and scammer like want0sell and game-no-protect doesn't post unless nonsensical things not pertaining to your appeal of the lost balance and reclaiming of your unpaid winnings.
Just a thought to you mate.

And best of luck against these sites that are having dire trust issues lately.

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Since when can an illegal casino have juridical valid ToS?

- Despite from the point that you can not have a legally binding agreement with a domain name.

- Despite from the point that you must agree to the ToS when sign up. But the words terms and conditions are not mentioned when you register and they are also not directly visible on the webpage (required by civil code of Curacao)!

Someone is lying through their teeth here but oh hey it's the fucking Internet where anyone could be everyone 

You had created two separate accounts on their sites with the same name (yours) ??
That is what I got from the response from the mbtcasino representative.
Is that right? Tell us that can't be so.
Because if it is infact true then they have you by the balls so to speak because it is stated in their T.O.S you can not have duplicate accounts using them and have one active while trying to do a withdrawal.
You have no traction in your argument and might as well cease and desist right now.
Because they can prosecute you by their laws since you are using their site which is their property and not yours.
And those two accounts I registered were by error on my part and did not have any kyc or aml verification on them at all so it was not an issue like the one you are in now.
You are over a barrel on this one bud.
You better stop now before you start to regret it if you go forward with what your trying to do.
Extortion is an offense and you do not know the laws where they are located even if you did know where they are for real. Their chat service is outsourced and not the actual location of their main company or operation. Even their marketing directors are from different locations you do realize this don't you mate?

mBITCasino is not licensed!

You discuss about non applicable terms and conditions -> funny

Again, I don't want to respond so please refer to a previous post. mBit is a scam quasi-licensed online "casino" - they're not Apple, Google, or Megaupload, as I'd mentioned in a prior post.

I said I wouldn't reply, but that was a typo on my part. It should read "u accidentally linked your bonus account to mine".

Let's just face it, I was going to simply take my deposit back, but you NEGATED on our agreement for NO REASON. That means you do NOT keep your word, and are NOT trustable. I will be posting actual emails and screenshots here in 48hrs.

Yes, of course, my friend did not want to use a REAL ID to upload to a sketch site. Anybody can understand that.

Go ahead and provide other evidence. The "u" key is right next to the "i" key - so you're grabbing me over a typo? I type fast. And were you on my webcam monitoring whom was playing off the computer? If so I think that's a severe breach of privacy.




Besides, please respond to this in your terms and conditions as stated earlier:

Got something! This directly from their terms and conditions: 3.1.2. You are allowed to have only one Member Account. If you attempt to open more than one Member Account, all betting accounts you try to open may be blocked or closed and any bets may be voided. Depending on the severity of the case mBitcasino holds the right to withhold or take any funds deposited to pay for damages and/or the prevention of future misconduct.

It says YOU are only allowed to hold one account. Most casinos say each HOUSEHOLD is allowed one account. Because they run an IP scan, all users using your wifi are flagged as multiple accounts, which I am assuming is not the case since you live in a university. Read the rest of their T&C involving multiple accounts: 3.1. Registration and opening of your member account:

3.1.1. In order for you to be able to place bets using any of the Websites, you must first register personally with us and open an account (“Member Account”).

3.1.2. You are allowed to have only one Member Account. If you attempt to open more than one Member Account, all betting accounts you try to open may be blocked or closed and any bets may be voided. Depending on the severity of the case mBitcasino holds the right to withhold or take any funds deposited to pay for damages and/or the prevention of future misconduct.

3.1.3. You must enter all mandatory information requested into your registration form, including a valid e-mail address; if you do not enter a valid email address, we will be unable to help you recover any “forgotten passwords”. It is your sole responsibility to ensure that the information you provide is true, complete and correct. You are hereby notified that, in our discretion, we have the right to carry out KYC verification procedures and that your Member Account may be blocked for access or closed if you are found to supply false or misleading information.

3.1.4. If you notice that you have more than one registered Member Account you must notify us immediately. Failure to do so may lead to your Member account being blocked for access.

3.1.5. As part of the registration process, you will have to choose a username and password for your login into the Website(s). It is your sole and exclusive responsibility to ensure that your login details are kept securely. You must not disclose your login details to anyone. We are not responsible for any abuse or misuse of your Member Account by third parties due to your disclosure, whether intentional or accidental, whether active or passive, of your login details to any third party.

3.1.6. mBit Casino reserves the right to refuse or close a Member Account at its sole discretion, but any contractual obligations already made by mBit Casino shall be honored accordingly.

3.1.7 mBit Casino reserves the right to declare a wager void, partially or in full, if mBit Casino, at its own discretion, deems it obvious that there was an error, mistake, misprint or technical error on the pay-table, odds or software.

No where does it say that multiple accounts PER HOUSEHOLD is not allowed. They do not have a leg to stand on! Simply ask to speak to a higher up (maybe even the owner, $3.5k is not a small amount), and tell them what I just proved here. Point out if they "pay out 100's of BTC per day" as the mBit Casino rep claimed, then they have nothing to gain and everything to lose by scamming you. Offer to lock and delete this thread, withdraw all complaints, and let bygones be bygones AFTER they pay you.


I will keep my word and refrain from any other conversation UNLESS mBIT responds publicly and/or attacks me, in which case I will respond appropriately.


And besides, let's assume (hypothetically) you figured the accounts were linked - WHY DID YOU LET ME DEPOSIT 1.8BTC IN AND THEN KEEP IT?! WHY DID YOU NOT SIMPLY NOTIFY ME AND SHUT DOWN THE ACCOUNT OR WARN ME TO NOT DEPOSIT??! YOU BASICALLY STOLE MY JACKPOT AND, ADDING INSULT TO INJURY, STOLE MY 1.7BTC DEPOSIT!!

Hey Everyone,

We offered to send lazypolarbears 1.779 BTC which was the amount of his deposits (less the cashouts and bonuses) after he broke our terms. Unfortunately we could not come to an agreement.

For the record, we have included a quote from the chat message he had with one our support team members. In this message, he sent our support staff a message that was meant for a friend of his, where he asked this friend to send a "selfie of your fake and your face."


~ lazypolarbears

We can provide evidence, including screenshots, of this conversation if required.

It is also worth noting that 2 of these duplicate accounts contained his name in the email address. With this evidence, plus the same IP on both accounts, the same cache browsers in both accounts and the chat message above, we concluded that all of these accounts were the same person (lazypolarbears).

Once again, having duplicate accounts is strictly against our terms and conditions.

As for the domains, we are not interested in buying them.

We would have really liked to settle this dispute, but at this stage it seems that is highly unlikely.

Thanks,
mBit Casino

It appears you are confused:

1) I don't speak about your domain case. I informed you that there is no legally binding agreement between you and Direx N.V., because they speak only about the domain name mbitcasino.com, but you can not have a contract with a domain name = no juridical valid terms and conditions.

PokerStars example:

-> between you and the company xy and not between you and a domain name... understood?

Despite of this, the ToS must be easily visible/findable and not hidden in the sitemap. LOL Also, when you register, they don't mention anything about their ToS. This is not in accordance with the Curacao civil code.

2) I did not say anything about contacting their regulator

Final update until 2/22/17 - I have been instructed via PM to refrain from any additional information or posts for 48hrs as of 1:46PST 2/20/17 - I will also be away on business during that time. Feel free to keep posting, I just won't be for 48hrs.

Feel free to continue this thread... I'll be back on the 22nd.

I believe you're getting confused...

1) The Domain idea came out AFTER they negated a partial settlement - this is a means of protest and warning others. There is no legally binding agreement with ICANN or whatever host I used to register.
2) Yes, I've contacted their regulatory agency... please read the updated 1st post.

You can not have a legally binding agreement with a domain! Legally binding agreements are only possible between natural or legal persons. They must state the operator Direx N.V. in this "terms and conditions", to be juridical valid.

Well if they choose to let go of the "trademark" - that's their choice. However, they'd have to restart from scratch, including reputation (which may not be a bad thing at this point).

Squatting domains only really applies to sites like megaupload that can be seized by federal agencies, or if you're a large coorporation like apple or google. Not a scam btc online casino.

And of course I've contacted their regulatory agency.

I don't think domain squatting is the right approach here because they could just let go of the mBitCasino trademark and emerge under a new name effectively avoiding paying you anything.
Have you tried contacting their regulatory body directly explaining your matters? There is something on the bottom of the front page leading to a regulatory agency.
Also squatted domains could be claimed via arbitration I think.

I didn't make the full list (especially the good ones, SEO optimized) public yet, for obvious reasons. And yes, domains are internet real estate, they are worth way more than you might think.

You're also misreading some intent - all 65+ are now pointed towards this thread. So 1 quick google search (w/ SEO) or 1 misspelling or redirect leads directly to this thread which will turn away FUTURE gamblers from mBitCasino.

Also, lastly, it's standard for UK to use .com and .co.uk (more so the latter) within the UK. Several EU countries are registered, many of which are their core clientele.

Their arbitrary terms and conditions. But please keep off-topic replies and read previous posts before posting.

Note again, that in this case, it was registered on a large (5000+) university IP.

Based on what is having more accounts on a same ip prohibited?

LOOOL ok good luck 

Thanks haha - but they're not in charge; just some outsourced people getting paid $7 an hour. Email: [email protected] - if you want any results.

But honestly, at this point, it's about the ICANN domains I just registered. All 65+ of them. 65BTC seems a bargain, no?

Your very welcome there MATE!

Glad I can help you out once again with this from my second post on this thread.

Well put. Your move, Philip.

*sigh* another third world country fuck who doesn't want his reward to be split with others. Citing negative trust is irrelevant here. Any if you took time to read anything, than you know I helped more than you did. What did you do other than tell OP to ask someone else for help? Nothing, except trash this thread because you can't stand that someone else helped the OP and your reward is smaller for it.
Read my posts. Mbitcasino states their terms and conditions for why they closed the OP's account. I explained how OP can actually use the T&C's against the casino.

You are just a generic signature spammer who earns peanuts by posting crap. Bet this forum is your only source of income, and if OP gives you even .1, you could live on it for a month.

To the response from mbitcasino's marketing manager or whatever he claims he is!
What would it matter if it was put into the public eye?
Wouldn't it be worst if you didn't pay him out and now have this scam accusation against you who are located in UK and your casino?

You make your bed and now you must lie it in. Even if you did just shit it in.

Okay - AT THE RISK OF MY ACCOUNT (Bitcointalk) - I will do a PSA (Public Service Announcement) and warn mBitCasino in public what I had just sent them over email:


-- Actual Email Sent 5 min ago:

Well then in that case, you should be aware that I have registered 65+ domains under "mbitcasino" under ICANN as of last night, including:

mbitcasino.co
mbitcasino.co.uk
mbitcacino.ch
mbitcasino.biz
mbitcasino.mobi
mbitcasino.us
mbîtcasino.com (and variants)
mbïcasino.com (and variants)

I will offer you the courtesy of purchasing these (now parked, but I will redirect mbitcasino.co to a site and you can see for yourself) list of 65 domains for a straight up fee of 65 BTC. If you choose not to, I am at liberty to do whatever I wish with these domains as I am the owner now.

SEO will be optimized on all these domains.

I think I just "upped the ante".

65BTC, and I will not execute this series of redirects to other casinos, warnings about your site/active marketing against your scam site, etc; note that SEO will be optimized by agencies I will pay.


On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Philip Aaker <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi there,

It has become clear to what extent your complaint has been put in the public eye, which is why we will revert back to our terms and conditions rather than extend any courtesy on our behalf.


____________________________________



I understand this may be "unethical" in some minds, straightup pwn'd in others, and is likely to have mixed reactions. However, I'm not at much of a loss here. These scammers need to be exposed, whatever it takes. That Philip Aaker is their *Marketing* Manager only helps me. These domains will remain parked for 24hrs as a courtesy to them.

And sorry I didn't have time yet to read though all the posts/messages that came up overnight. I'll get to y'all soon (and thanks for the help)! And yes, the 10% reward of 3.5BTC could potentially be extended to 10% of 65BTC, as per above. So keep contributing guys (and not just on this thread)!

Ok there 0x0010!

You were late to the party and now are upset about it and trying oh your so very best to make up false things to have the op consider giving anything to you.
And no  I am not from a third world country.
If you took any fricking time as you say I should in reading your posts making yourself look even stupidier even more with every post you do, you would notice that I am not from one of those shit hole slums.
You do make it out that you do from scraping all the threads looking for hand outs given for nothing but what the op already read over over and over again for the last 24 hours as the rules and regulations from support and their staff already sent him the link too.
Your argument here is mute and you will be ignored for your claims.
You obviously deserve nothing and not even an ounce of respect from anyone here on the forum.
Ignoring all your future messages here and I would suggest OP do the same with anything you are trying to sell yourself as but simply your just another bottom feeder here looking for anybody who is willing to fall your pathetic attempts of looking for "tips" here for practically doing nothing but whine and complain.

Good luck in your life because it does look like you do need it!

Lol what did you do xD. You simply came here with broken english and some generic advice. I never told him to take a plea bargain, I said to offer to delete all the negative scam accusations against the company in exchange for the payout he was entiteled to, and to request to talk to an actual person in the company who can do something, not a no name admin.

They are not legit for me since they have no signature campaign running as of now..
And i think better to go in well know site which is stable running campaign here in forum so that you can be trusted more and you  can get more reviews by many members here..

Got something! This directly from their terms and conditions: 3.1.2. You are allowed to have only one Member Account. If you attempt to open more than one Member Account, all betting accounts you try to open may be blocked or closed and any bets may be voided. Depending on the severity of the case mBitcasino holds the right to withhold or take any funds deposited to pay for damages and/or the prevention of future misconduct.

It says YOU are only allowed to hold one account. Most casinos say each HOUSEHOLD is allowed one account. Because they run an IP scan, all users using your wifi are flagged as multiple accounts, which I am assuming is not the case since you live in a university. Read the rest of their T&C involving multiple accounts: 3.1. Registration and opening of your member account:

3.1.1. In order for you to be able to place bets using any of the Websites, you must first register personally with us and open an account (“Member Account”).

3.1.2. You are allowed to have only one Member Account. If you attempt to open more than one Member Account, all betting accounts you try to open may be blocked or closed and any bets may be voided. Depending on the severity of the case mBitcasino holds the right to withhold or take any funds deposited to pay for damages and/or the prevention of future misconduct.

3.1.3. You must enter all mandatory information requested into your registration form, including a valid e-mail address; if you do not enter a valid email address, we will be unable to help you recover any “forgotten passwords”. It is your sole responsibility to ensure that the information you provide is true, complete and correct. You are hereby notified that, in our discretion, we have the right to carry out KYC verification procedures and that your Member Account may be blocked for access or closed if you are found to supply false or misleading information.

3.1.4. If you notice that you have more than one registered Member Account you must notify us immediately. Failure to do so may lead to your Member account being blocked for access.

3.1.5. As part of the registration process, you will have to choose a username and password for your login into the Website(s). It is your sole and exclusive responsibility to ensure that your login details are kept securely. You must not disclose your login details to anyone. We are not responsible for any abuse or misuse of your Member Account by third parties due to your disclosure, whether intentional or accidental, whether active or passive, of your login details to any third party.

3.1.6. mBit Casino reserves the right to refuse or close a Member Account at its sole discretion, but any contractual obligations already made by mBit Casino shall be honored accordingly.

3.1.7 mBit Casino reserves the right to declare a wager void, partially or in full, if mBit Casino, at its own discretion, deems it obvious that there was an error, mistake, misprint or technical error on the pay-table, odds or software.

No where does it say that multiple accounts PER HOUSEHOLD is not allowed. They do not have a leg to stand on! Simply ask to speak to a higher up (maybe even the owner, $3.5k is not a small amount), and tell them what I just proved here. Point out if they "pay out 100's of BTC per day" as the mBit Casino rep claimed, then they have nothing to gain and everything to lose by scamming you. Offer to lock and delete this thread, withdraw all complaints, and let bygones be bygones AFTER they pay you.

Okay so a lot of threads overnight, and this email I got just now:

They were offering a settlement of at least my (significant) deposit until I just got this:

Hi there,

It has become clear to what extent your complaint has been put in the public eye, which is why we will revert back to our terms and conditions rather than extend any courtesy on our behalf.

Thank you for your understanding.



That said, I intend to go public and more public with a certain plan I am about to disclose to mBit (they will not be happy) in light of this news. I will follow up with any 3rd parties that can possibly intervene.

I will let everybody know what it is that I did as soon as I feel it is the right time.

In the meantime, STAY AWAY FROM MBITCASINO.

I have seen alot of news about casino's not paying the players if they win big.
After all this I would suggest you that you should file a real complaint against the owner of the site and do some legal things about cancelling the license of the website.

The OP has not received any payment yet. If my advice helped as you said it did and you end up getting some coin, please send my part of the reward to: 19przVDzBdPYCUeqfEKACmWTRinNgDReCS

Did you just come to the last part of the thread there mate!?

I was the 4th poster on the thread when he started it and directed him to the right person to get the ball rolling.
If I didn't then he would of not had that member even know of his situation that he was in thus not even getting anything done from upper management and in talks to recover half of what the amount owing is!
So you tell me, if I did nothing for him in his time of need or not!?!
And your english is not perfect either!
I would suggest you go back to school and learn basic reading and writing skills as well research skills just like game-protect needs in that regards! You two seem to be the idiots on this forum and should be kicked the fuck outta here fast before you drag the i.q of this place down any further with your wild and insensible quacking of that like a bunch of ducks!
Go spend your time fixing you reputation first before spewing your toxic waste here with alt robertt/0x10010/whoever the fuck you are on any given day.

Lauda 0: -1 / +11   2016-12-27   0.00000000   Reference   Admits to scamming someone ("but I did scam affilate user") and likely a sold account.

https://archive.fo/Bomab to that thread thanks to lauda.

Just repeating what somebody already posted doesn't make it you helped his plight one bit fool!

Offer a plea bargain to delete a thread due to scam allegations is fair enough of an advice to warrant a 10% payment for?
I wouldn't like to think so.

Hi there!
Congrats on getting half way with them of how much they owe you back with my advice to you.

So if you are true to your word here then I would like what you say I could receive in steering you into the direction that eventually got you a resolve with withdrawal issue you had encountered.

Thanks for the offer of what came to be decided in your favor afterall.

It is good to see that sometimes the outcome in these situations come into the player favor and not the casino's bad practices they claim in they are following these outlandish kyc/aml processes which it is not an acceptable form to deny any one from their winnings.

Go to the scam accusation board or just simply click the link provided by hollandvan then start a new thread from there. Follow this format in making your own scam accusation. Goodluck hope you get your money back.

Have you contacted more default list members and make a scam accusation in specific section, not here in gambling section. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

You're right, it's hard to prove on either side. But seizing a jackpot, much more, the entire balance/account, is completely unethical, even by online gambling standards.

How do I open a spam accusation? They have little to no evidence, and certainly none credible.

I have an insider working on it - he has some connections and I have some ideas also; They did promise to pay me on certain conditions (I'd have to retract all formal complaints), etc., but it'd only be my deposit, which was significant in itself. But I'm not retracting any complaints UNTIL they pay me as I do not trust these people at all.

To be honest, I can't disclose (yet), but I have an amazing idea... If/when I do post it and execute it, it's probably going to received mixed attention... it's already in the works... whether or not I decide to deploy it is contingent on how much mBit cares about their revenue and/or marketing, and/or if they pay up.

There is no proof that you are paying (now your friend), it can be you yourselves too. Anyway it does not matter you are going to pay or not since this is not about tipping-trusting thing here. You should open scam accusation if they does not pay out and have all proof because afaik they always have this delayed on their withdrawal because of need some time to check it over

Taking into consideration what they've written about multiple accounts, I guess they're not planning to pay you. I don't know who's right and who's wrong here. Good luck to you and don't let roommates gamble from your computers again. Multiple-accounts are restricted in casinos as well as on bitcointalk. I'm sorry for such a big loss. Perhaps they'll pay you some part of money as a compensation but I'm not even sure about that. Good luck and take care.

Dude, I'm the OP. Why would I joke about something that's definitely NOT funny for me right now -.-

Just sharing a decent experience with a better, more reliable site. Not advertising for them, but I've had a much smoother experience.

wew seriosly man? it's not funny -_-

Good advice. Unfortunately for me it was a bit too late... I am not affiliated with vegascasino.io but have had good experience with them (I've quit gambling after this)... they even comp'd me a free iPhone 7 (after a LOT of wagering)... they also allowed me to cash out 6BTC+ no questions asked instant confirmations...

it seems that we should be careful when choosing a gambling site what else have a hobby gamble will more make a deposit to play in the site itself, many sites early start well, we do not know their minds will be like in the future, so I just to choose a gambling site that has been known as a deposit and play.

I'm not sure - but at least you tried and I think it may have gotten some response? Hard to tell right now - probably in a different EU time zone idk...

In any case, I have a great plan. This is going to be epic. Not going to post publicly yet, or probably not ever, but this is genius.


And ^2 posts above, I think you're forgetting that even *IF* I had done that intentionally (which is NOT true), they were still willing to accept my deposits of 1BTC+ but waited for my account to diminish (and hopefully in their mind lose it all and re-deposit); it was only when I struck a jackpot when they decided to seize the entire balance (couldn't they have shut down the account BEFORE I deposited?!)

I sent out emails to support and admin at mbitcasino with some of the documentation that you had presented to me immediately after I received it from you. I'm not sure if that helped. If it did, I do not want any compensation. Give it to the others including arcanaaerobics.

Yes, but if they ban multi-account, they will accuse OP has multi-accounts to ban them. And if he can get paid, he is lucky guy, he should learn this lesson, never play like this any more.

Let me offer some advice. Bluntly tell them that you want to be directed to a higher up. The usual support staff can't do anything. Then point out they have a lot to lose by scamming you, and offer to lock and delete this thread in exchange for a payout. If this helps, I would appreciate the reward.

Well I shouldn't "lock" this thread right now, but I did take you up on your advice (ask someone higher up - not just admin). They have way more to lose in gaming revenue/reputation than just

• amount settlement, and I knew that from the beginning.

Filed 5 complaints with 4 agencies already, they want me to nullify that too. I think it's obvious by their replies that they know they have more to lose (overall net) by scamming more people like me - and this cautionary tale coupled with complaints will likely screw them over in the long run, way more than

• settlement.

If that helped, I'll PM you.

Yeah... we *may* have reached some sort of agreement, which I shouldn't disclose publicly too much, but they have yet to pay me out...

Casinos makes lot of money but still scam people for bullshit reasons

Oh, sorry hear this!
I hate scammers!

3.5BTC is high

Check my thread with ETH/ZEC mining - I tipped out 0.04BTC to someone (now a friend) I met on here and he confirmed that I did send it.

And read up two messages - these are experienced members that have helped me a lot. And for that I owe them, and hope they will give me "trust" and confirm that I did pay out for their time and help.

What is the point of giving this bonus? Unless you have any escrow that bonus may be there will be many useful guide on what you really need to do. Just saying without giving any proof will not be good thing. You should create some scam accusation if you have a solid proof of them scam your money away. DT member will give red trust if it is true

Please delete this post; it need not be public, and contains private information only half-redacted. You have sent me this over email, verbatim.

Worse off, this is straight-up libel (defamation, etc.), which depending on the jurisdiction, may be construed as a felony. We have reached an agreement and let's keep it at that.

Okay, so I think I struck a deal with mBit, albeit not completely happy with it. Not at all.

I owe all of you whom helped a net share of 10% of 1.7 BTC, which I'll allocate (by percentage relative to help) in a later post once I receive my funds.

Big thanks @DarkDays, @joskim299, and @Peeps Place (thanks for offering to help at least... was confident you'd yield some results but I didn't want to wait).

Please post or PM me your BTC addresses and I will payout 170mBTC to all those whom contributed either on here or via PM.

I'd prefer you post your BTC address here publicly and confirm that I have "tipped" you for your help/contribution. This would help me gain trust among this forum - I stand by my word/ethics, so gaining "trust" or even just posting a confirmation that you received "tips" from me would be nice for the future.

So yes, I do tip out for decent help. I don't understand why mBit (besides obvious financial gain) would not take me at face value, but hopefully the rest of you guys believe me when I said I stood by my word and morality.

Hey lazypolarbears,

We reserve the right to proceed with KYC if we find any suspicious activity on a player’s account. In your case, we requested a KYC because it appeared that you opened multiple accounts, and took advantage of bonuses on each one. The KYC procedure has nothing to do with your winnings.

In the case that your account was okay, you would have been able to cashout. However, after investigating, we came to the conclusion that you most definitely abused our bonuses by opening multiple accounts. This practice is strictly forbidden at our casino and against our terms and conditions.

We have in the past, paid out prizes up to 150 BTC in a single day - so please understand that we are not holding your withdrawal just because you won.

Our Terms and Conditions forbid any player from opening multiple accounts. Even worse, you claimed at least one bonus on both accounts. Also, you tried to delude our staff by sending them a message that was meant for your friend, in which you asked your friend to upload documents (including an ID) that were not from you.

You registered these accounts on our system: dav******; davi*******; la*******

Again, this is forbidden at our casino. Please, read the terms and conditions if you have any doubt:

3.1.2. You are allowed to have only one Member Account. If you attempt to open more than one Member Account, all betting accounts you try to open may be blocked or closed and any bets may be voided. Depending on the severity of the case mBit Casino holds the right to withhold or take any funds deposited to pay for damages and/or the prevention of future misconduct.

3.1.3. You must enter all mandatory information requested into your registration form, including a valid e-mail address; if you do not enter a valid email address, we will be unable to help you recover any “forgotten passwords”. It is your sole responsibility to ensure that the information you provide is true, complete and correct. You are hereby notified that, in our discretion, we have the right to carry out KYC verification procedures and that your Member Account may be blocked for access or closed if you are found to supply false or misleading information.

3.1.4. If you notice that you have more than one registered Member Account you must notify us immediately. Failure to do so may lead to your Member account being blocked for access.

Find full information here: https://www.mbitcasino.com/terms-and-conditions

You registered multiple accounts for the sole purpose of abusing our bonus system. You also tried to provide us with wrong information about the owners of the accounts.

For these reasons, as you didn't respect our terms and conditions, all your accounts are closed and your bets are voided.

We are interested in have players that play by the rules that everyone is following. Not players that are asking for friends upload documents to try to delude our staff and are abusing our bonus system.

Thanks,
mBit Casino

Okay so for an update - the 350mBTC I'm offering would likely be split (at this point; a few useful PM's and posts - thanks guys!) between a few users, and I'll assign relative percentages due to how much each user contributed to, hopefully, an eventual solution.

Obviously I've been communicating with their upper management... but in the interim, I do need help (one member on this forum is working on it - he has high up connections apparently)... any other help would gladly be appreciated... I'm getting so much anxiety over this

On another note I've quit gambling forever. If someone wants a fair site I'd recommend vegascasino.io - they were quick to cash out 6BTC without questions or verification, etc.

the first youre must sending ticket in contact support helping mbitcasino
posting in official bitcointalk thread mbitcasino, after 3 x 24 hour not response you can create post in gambling section and scam auction section

Well, it's a casino. They're a business. They just want money. But ethics are another thing, and the "humans" I've been talking to have not had any reasonable proposals, and still fault me for *referring* my roommate. Had I not done that in the first place (referred him to mBit), there would likely be less of a mess...

I know you don't care about the accounts but they do and that is your only recourse in any of this to claim your funds back.
Just try and work with their support and ask them if the offending account can be closed so it can not be used and lock that account from being accessed indefinitely but the creator has to contact them with the id he used to create or submitted when they asked for it the kyc aml process they have every player they suspect of not being the real owner of the account.
Just work with them. They are human after all. Well I would like to think so and not just bots on their chat.

Well, idk how he played. I don't have access to his account. We do have a shared computer/shared spam email addresses for coinbase, etc., as it's the computer that manages our network. I have no idea what he played...

Well the problem is proving either side - I admit it was off the same laptop and public IP (university) address. However, all documentation was properly uploaded and I was assured there would be no problem.


Well, check some of my other posts. I don't troll. But I agree in that it's hard to convince the casino in any manner, so I'd need a higher jurisdiction.

And no, grabbing my *deposits* was not ethical whatsoever. I can deposit but not cash out? I'll be sharing this story publicly (if a solution is not resolved) with redacted screenshots and emails.




Yeah, 25 free spins is one thing. 3.5BTC is another thing, unfortunately... We don't care about either account. Neither of us are playing after this horrible experience.

And nobody play on mBitCasino. This is a warning to all future BTC gamblers out there!!

Oh, ok, then you're probably screwed.  There's no realistic reason to have multiple people playing from the same computer so your play looks identical to someone who is trying to abuse a bonus.  It would look better if there was some sort of circumstantial evidence that points to there being two unique users, but I'm going to guess that circumstantial stuff will make things look even worse for you.  For example, did one user sign up, play, and then once the new user started playing on the site the original user never played again?  Did both users play the same or similar games with the same or similar deposit amounts/bet sizing/tendencies?

I think a simple solution would be is to have this so called friend talk to their support and have them physically close his account by their chat representative.
I did this because I told them I created another account by mistake and forgot the password for it so i created the one that I was talking to them with. They closed it and wasn't able to log into to it later when I did find the password while going thru some old documents on my desk.
It said a message something like "This account was inaccessible and is closed." So that confirms they did it and I continued using the new account which was using.
I think I did claim a 25 spin bonus on both of them. But never withdrawn from the old one.
So that might be the problem if they see the other one your friend had did a withdrawal of the bonus which was received.
You can try that if your friend can remember his password and get them to close it.
That might be your only other option.

Even if Op story is 100% legit, it will be very hard to convince the casino that Op is telling the truth.
If they have reasons to believe someone is trying to cheat their bonus, created multiple account with the same IP or display some sort of weird behavior.
But I don't think that grabbing winnings/deposit of the users is justifiable practice even then.
It is funny that they weren't investigating/blocking you earlier, but when you won, their security system suddenly woke up.

Casinos with ridiculous terms (like mBitCasino) are always happy to allow players to break their rules on multi-accounting, assuming the player loses.. Player wins they just close account saying you broke their terms. The fact they only bothered to trigger a lock on your account until after you win is all you need to know here.


There are a plethora of good sites out there, that not only don't have questionable T&C's, but also provide provably fair games with much lower house edges than sites like mBit, Betcoin etc.

No, my friend used a bonus and lost all of it because of the 35x wager requirement. I probably did at some point too (free spins count?)/




We were on the same laptop that runs our R4 cloud, yes. And from a large university/college IP (public). Management doesn't seem to be willing to corporate very much thus far, although I have gotten some replies.

Management does have the right to close account since having more accounts on a same ip is really prohibited but as you said that you are just testing out hashes and didnt commit any violation with your friend like abusing bonuses or other stuffs then you cant do anything about it but if you are doing nothing then chances of getting that money is high.

This is the only relevant aspect.  If multiple accounts were made from the same computer and both used a bonus, it's reasonable to assume it's the same person attempting to abuse the bonus. 

Are you positive that neither account had ever received any bonus?

I also uploaded all of my own documents, including a passport, drivers license, selfie w/ ID, bank statement, etc... as per their instructions...

I did. Even had my roommate upload his ID and a selfie WITH his ID. It was a large university IP that traces back to the college... They claimed it was fake and I (manipulated) a friend to get a bonus code - which, for the record, I never did and he lost $250 and quit anyways....

They should pay you but they like to act unethical nothing new from them. 
Try to deliver them evidence that you have used public address and ask your friend to confirm.

I'm on a large university IP address - it's possible that someone else was doing this too under the same IP*

It was a $10 bet on Gems & Stones (Endorphina) that netted 3.2BTC.

I have a screenshot but I can't upload it here for some reason, but I'm not lying (there's no reason to).

*My roommate and I were actually playing off the same computer. So in fact, I do know that we were at different times on the same computer that manages our R4 cloud.
** No bonus wager requirements were active or used

How many accounts were created from the same IP address?
If there is more than one account created form the same IP and all took bonus then it is hard to do anything.
Did you won jackpot while you had active bonus?

Best way is to try to resolve situation directly with them if you do not find agreement you should fill scam accusation against them.
You should also contact game provider of the game where you won.

Thanks... I shot him a PM - If he does end me helping me out I owe you part of the 10% I promised...

Any other advice? Kind of panicking right now...

He's peeps place.

Actually he runs a sportsbook review thread which is here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

I am not sure if he can do your case cause from the looks at it.
But you can try to see if he has experience with mbitcasino before.

EDIT: Sorry misread that. Jumped to the link too quickly without reading your thread.

I've communicated with the "upper management" already and they decided to do this....

I've contacted their "regulatory" board, AskGamblers, and BitcoinGG ([email protected]) - is there anybody that could really help?

PM mBit Casino. I've had good experiences with them in the past, so hopefully this can be resolved. I'm quite surprised they would take your balance, and not just block your account but let you keep withdrawing your funds.

Good luck getting your funds back.

Hi,

Thanks for the advice - I can't seem to find his username. I will put a 10% reward (10% of 3.5BTC) to anyone, including peeps corner (couldn't find the user) to anyone whom can help or even help redirect me...

Thanks in advance..

I have seen a lot of these casinos doing this to people who hold balances with those bitcoin casinos.
It is sad really. Sorry to hear about that.
But I want to know what would this site askgamblers do for you?
Other just ask you questions that go nowhere and just want to dick around the barnyard with you?

Get peeps place to look into it for you. He seems to be a competent person here that "ACTUALLY" does care what happens to you and your funds and not just data collecting and posting crap on others threads that does little to nothing around here but just to act smart.

Just message him, he will help you out. I guarantee it!  

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