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newbie
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August 06, 2011, 11:18:13 PM
#37
I have found this to be the case in practice as well.  The smaller exchanges usually follow the larger ones.  The problem is usually the market dept is shallower so you may not be able to fill your whole order at the price you want.  It also depends highly on which way the price is going though because it's really easy and fast to move BTC between exchanges, but cash moves slow.  Even though I sold my BTC for a higher value I can't move my cash to MtGox to take advantage of the lower price.  Also if the large exchange bottoms out quickly and the rises the small exchange will bottom out at a higher value.

Forget my previous post.  It sounds like you're aware of the pitfalls and are navigating them well.  Again, well done.
newbie
Activity: 57
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August 06, 2011, 11:15:26 PM
#36
One secret is to keep you money in a different exchange.  They react slower then MtGox does.  I sold all my BTC for 2 dollars more than the asking on MtGox.  Also you can see where it's going to bottom out so you can put yourself in a good buy position.

As long as the liquidity is there.  Most people flock to MtGox because of the depth.  Even though some of the other exchanges have better prices it could take a little longer to find a trade.  Nice sell though.  Glad it worked out for you.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Firstbits.com/1fg4i :)
August 06, 2011, 10:44:50 PM
#35
I will buy at -3 USD ^^

it doesn't work like that, at most it would be somthing like 1E-3
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1012
Democracy is vulnerable to a 51% attack.
August 06, 2011, 10:25:04 PM
#34
The problem is usually the market dept is shallower so you may not be able to fill your whole order at the price you want.
Absolutely. I've bought 30 bitcoins on TradeHill and had my transaction push the price by 35 cents. I didn't place it high enough at first and had to repeat it two more times to fill it! That's obviously an extreme example, but that is the trade-off with a smaller exchange.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
I yam what I yam. - Popeye
August 06, 2011, 09:36:54 PM
#33
Yeah, it's been fun this afternoon and evening. I've got an early morning tomorrow. Wonder if there will be any bitcoin left? 8^)

Ny-tall!
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
August 06, 2011, 09:34:03 PM
#32
I never fully committed my 100 BTC Buy-in; I sat out most of the time and observed.

The most I lost was $50 on a recent 20 BTC  buy/sell, so I guess I count myself fortunate(?)

It looks like my 100 BTC Buy-in is getting cheaper by the hour. Should I hope for $1 BTC?

I still believe in the fundamentals of this crypto-currency, maybe a rally will be in the making soon?

Peace out to all the BTC Peeps,
SJ





sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
August 06, 2011, 09:07:53 PM
#31
i'm hoping virwox hits 1500L some time tonight! :p i've got a bunch of linden i want to cash out!
sr. member
Activity: 240
Merit: 250
August 06, 2011, 09:00:05 PM
#30
I will buy at -3 USD ^^
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
August 06, 2011, 08:57:19 PM
#29
It does seem that if a smaller exchange is above the Mt. Gox rate, and the Mt. Gox rate itself is dropping, it's very likely that exchange's rate will move down as well. Similarly, if a smaller exchange is below the Mt. Gox rate, and the Mt. Gox rate is increasing, it's very likely that exchange's rate will move up.

Especially with arbitrage bots starting to show up. It'll be very fast.

Actually when you think about it, this is a mechanism that might actually synchronize rates on all the exchanges (at least the ones that have good enough apis) and finally give smaller exchanges a chance to enter the market more easily.

Just a thought...
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
August 06, 2011, 08:47:31 PM
#28
It does seem that if a smaller exchange is above the Mt. Gox rate, and the Mt. Gox rate itself is dropping, it's very likely that exchange's rate will move down as well. Similarly, if a smaller exchange is below the Mt. Gox rate, and the Mt. Gox rate is increasing, it's very likely that exchange's rate will move up.

I have found this to be the case in practice as well.  The smaller exchanges usually follow the larger ones.  The problem is usually the market dept is shallower so you may not be able to fill your whole order at the price you want.  It also depends highly on which way the price is going though because it's really easy and fast to move BTC between exchanges, but cash moves slow.  Even though I sold my BTC for a higher value I can't move my cash to MtGox to take advantage of the lower price.  Also if the large exchange bottoms out quickly and the rises the small exchange will bottom out at a higher value.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1012
Democracy is vulnerable to a 51% attack.
August 06, 2011, 08:28:46 PM
#27
It does seem that if a smaller exchange is above the Mt. Gox rate, and the Mt. Gox rate itself is dropping, it's very likely that exchange's rate will move down as well. Similarly, if a smaller exchange is below the Mt. Gox rate, and the Mt. Gox rate is increasing, it's very likely that exchange's rate will move up.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
August 06, 2011, 08:21:21 PM
#26
One secret is to keep you money in a different exchange.  They react slower then MtGox does.  I sold all my BTC for 2 dollars more than the asking on MtGox.  Also you can see where it's going to bottom out so you can put yourself in a good buy position.

Great job Bazil  Cool
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
August 06, 2011, 08:19:00 PM
#25
One secret is to keep you money in a different exchange.  They react slower then MtGox does.  I sold all my BTC for 2 dollars more than the asking on MtGox.  Also you can see where it's going to bottom out so you can put yourself in a good buy position.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
August 06, 2011, 08:11:37 PM
#24
28K bitcoin sell down to 6.51. This is getting exciting


this is a good day for bitcoin
BUY BUY BUY
SELL SELL SELL

you can smell the fear and hope

Today is a great day. All scared money is getting out today. Bitcoin sale is on. Go Bitcoin!!!
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
August 06, 2011, 08:07:40 PM
#23
28K bitcoin sell down to 6.51. This is getting exciting!!  What do you think, bounce by Monday?


Wow someone got themself a bargain, though not as nice a one as whoever picked up 10,000 coins at only $6.00 each earlier.

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
August 06, 2011, 08:07:19 PM
#22
28K bitcoin sell down to 6.51. This is getting exciting


this is a good day for bitcoin
BUY BUY BUY
SELL SELL SELL

you can smell the fear and hope
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1022
No Maps for These Territories
August 06, 2011, 08:05:06 PM
#21
This is the usual weekend rollercoaster, now with extra panic sauce Smiley Sell, sell, the world's financial system is going to ruin. All your digital assets will be worth nothing after the internet shuts down and we go back to farming goats!  Grin

(then I must consequently be a magician)
Don't pride yourself too much, even a broken clock is right two times a day... In a rollercoaster like this all predictions will eventually come true.

member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
I yam what I yam. - Popeye
August 06, 2011, 07:28:17 PM
#20
Isn't the volume high enough to basically throw out the whole stolen bitcoin theory is dropping the price at this point?

Once a flood starts all the sheep tend to follow. Let's see how many wolves are left.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
August 06, 2011, 07:28:13 PM
#19
How much of the huge early-adopter bitcoin-fortunes has been converted to fiat by now?

Have they been converting to fiat in large amounts at all?

I had hoped their plan had been to convert so much to fiat that they would from then on have huge reserves of fiat with which to keep bitcoin prices from ever falling below 1/21000000 of the reserves per coin.

But maybe they have not moved into fiat at all?

Or they have, but are not using that fiat as reserves to stabilise bitcoin?

Or they have, but are investing the fiat in various regulatory moves and licensing of legal banking institutions or purchases of legally licensed banks and such to uphold bitcoin's "legitimacy" more than worrying about its per unit exchange rate?

If it does go down to a dollar that would be awesome if I can actually buy it instead of finding at that point no one on #bitcoin-otc is fool enough to sell at such insanely low price...

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 1001
August 06, 2011, 07:19:33 PM
#18
Isn't the volume high enough to basically throw out the whole stolen bitcoin theory is dropping the price at this point?
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