if you repeat a conspiracy theory often enough people start believing it. you rarely get to choose what OS you use at work.
it makes no sense to sell so much at such a low price when it was 3 times higher a few months ago, you would only do this if the coins cost you nothing.
now the IRS has classed BTC as property there may be a better case for bringing a criminal prosecution.
i wonder if bcx will apologise for his unsubstantiated allegations based on his belief that everyone in crypto is always up to no good, if, or when such proceedings come to light
not everyone has the same mindset as you
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Why do people mine this shit it dont even pay a fraction of the electricity bills, it must be one of the worst coins to mine at the moment.
I think Baritus stole them himself to pay for his gender transfer!
How do we know he even had a employee, what is his company named and where is it located? Work from there..
I think Baritus stole them himself to pay for his gender transfer!
How do we know he even had a employee, what is his company named and where is it located? Work from there..
Ever thought maybe they are mining dgc to hold long term because they see potential in it? Not everyone is in for a quick pump and dump.
Um once again how does one "steal" coins from themself?? I think maybe the thief should have sent some to you to pay for a brain transfer.
Good luck as if anyone is going to disclose their personal details like that on here so idiots like BCX and co can drag their names through the muck.
I'm telling you, BCX might be a good hacker (or not) but he has no common sense. I'm sure he has his motive for trolling DGC, same reason he is saying he will TW auroracoin. He has already double up on AUR since the FUD. And I would like to thank him for that as well.
You all could make a lot of money if you just follow along with BCX FUD. I double up on AUR and then double down on DGC. This is the only way to play BCX troll game.
-tb-
Why do people mine this shit it dont even pay a fraction of the electricity bills, it must be one of the worst coins to mine at the moment.
I think Baritus stole them himself to pay for his gender transfer!
How do we know he even had a employee, what is his company named and where is it located? Work from there..
I think Baritus stole them himself to pay for his gender transfer!
How do we know he even had a employee, what is his company named and where is it located? Work from there..
Ever thought maybe they are mining dgc to hold long term because they see potential in it? Not everyone is in for a quick pump and dump.
Um once again how does one "steal" coins from themself?? I think maybe the thief should have sent some to you to pay for a brain transfer.
Good luck as if anyone is going to disclose their personal details like that on here so idiots like BCX and co can drag their names through the muck.
Why do people mine this shit it dont even pay a fraction of the electricity bills, it must be one of the worst coins to mine at the moment.
I think Baritus stole them himself to pay for his gender transfer!
How do we know he even had a employee, what is his company named and where is it located? Work from there..
I think Baritus stole them himself to pay for his gender transfer!
How do we know he even had a employee, what is his company named and where is it located? Work from there..
there is no reason not to disclose those addresses.
you can talk your way around it all you want, its still something wrong with this.
there is only one way to go about things in the cryptoworld and that is full disclosure. baritus failed.
im very sorry you're holding the bag, but stop telling ppl everything is fine when its clearly not.
you can talk your way around it all you want, its still something wrong with this.
there is only one way to go about things in the cryptoworld and that is full disclosure. baritus failed.
im very sorry you're holding the bag, but stop telling ppl everything is fine when its clearly not.
I think its been talked enough, its actually been flogged to death. If your so concerned about it why are you posting in this thread instead of looking up the other thread which went on about it for pages and pages. This new thread is just BCX's poor attempt at spamming the same posts over and over again because he likes the sound of his own voice lol
I wish I had a bag of DGC to hold its probably one of the coins with the most services in dev out of any cryptocoin. In case you hadn't noticed most alt coins are down. Why would a dev sell his own coins at rock bottom price and then announce the next Digitalcoin 2 update and a revamped DGC website amongst other things. Does that sound like a guy who wants out or is trying to wreck his own coin by being shady? Nope. If you want conspiracy stories go and visit www.topsecret.com
there is no reason not to disclose those addresses.
you can talk your way around it all you want, its still something wrong with this.
there is only one way to go about things in the cryptoworld and that is full disclosure. baritus failed.
im very sorry you're holding the bag, but stop telling ppl everything is fine when its clearly not.
you can talk your way around it all you want, its still something wrong with this.
there is only one way to go about things in the cryptoworld and that is full disclosure. baritus failed.
im very sorry you're holding the bag, but stop telling ppl everything is fine when its clearly not.
There was no mystery employee.
Baritus sold $30,000 worth of his coins while at the same time soliciting funds from investors.
You would think if an "employee" stole $30,000 there would be a police report, a name or even simply posting the public addresses of the involved wallets. But Baritus has done none of the above.
~BCX~
Still flogging this old dead horse story I see. How many times can you spam the same old crap over and over? You should get a job on The Walking Dead, they love flogging dead corpses. lol The most likely addresses were already posted by someone else in another thread which you already were told about but in your ignorance plainly ignore.
Maybe he has reported it to the police maybe he hasn't who the hell cares?? Why does he have to post his own private business here? He stated he had his "own' coins stolen numbnuts so whats it matter to anyone else. Why do you give such a toss anyway?? If your so certain he sold his own coins PRODUCE some evidence dimwit. Oh whats that? You can't right lol.
ya no kidding if he had a shred of credibility he would post the addresses so the public can help track down and return his money
but strangely he is not very motivated to get this thirty thousand dollars worth of coins back.. hmmmm i wonder why ?
topic = rhetorical question
and what we can now get from this is the Secure coin Digital coin and many others "dev" is a fucking lying thief.
and THAT is some fucking seriously big news people ! The implications are pretty big on that.
but strangely he is not very motivated to get this thirty thousand dollars worth of coins back.. hmmmm i wonder why ?
topic = rhetorical question
and what we can now get from this is the Secure coin Digital coin and many others "dev" is a fucking lying thief.
and THAT is some fucking seriously big news people ! The implications are pretty big on that.
Umm hello...did you not see the dumps on Cryptsy ages ago. Most likely this thief has already cashed out to bitcoin and is long gone by now. Anyway as already mentioned Sherlock the most likely addresses were already posted in another thread and are publically available to see in the dgc blockchain, go look them up.
Hahahah have you even read what you just said it makes no sense at all lol. You calling him a lying thief. How do you steal coins from yourself?? Oh wait I know! Maybe he has a multiple personalities thus explaining him stealing the coins from himself? LOL. No wonder your account has been banned so many times, most likely for stupidy.
I don't see anywhere where he has stolen anyone elses coins? Yep thats some big news alright..a man allegedly STOLE some coins from himself people!! Call CNN!! FOX news anyone??
There was no mystery employee.
Baritus sold $30,000 worth of his coins while at the same time soliciting funds from investors.
You would think if an "employee" stole $30,000 there would be a police report, a name or even simply posting the public addresses of the involved wallets. But Baritus has done none of the above.
~BCX~
ya no kidding if he had a shred of credibility he would post the addresses so the public can help track down and return his money
but strangely he is not very motivated to get this thirty thousand dollars worth of coins back.. hmmmm i wonder why ?
topic = rhetorical question
and what we can now get from this is the Secure coin Digital coin and many others "dev" is a fucking lying thief.
and THAT is some fucking seriously big news people ! The implications are pretty big on that.
How many stupid threads are you going to start about this? Lame.
By the way folks BCX admitted he mines DGC in the last thread about this so go figure eh.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/digitalcoin-dev-robbed-514689
Or just in case he tries to delete the post.
http://snag.gy/NSPTM.jpg
By the way folks BCX admitted he mines DGC in the last thread about this so go figure eh.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/digitalcoin-dev-robbed-514689
Or just in case he tries to delete the post.
http://snag.gy/NSPTM.jpg
all the more reason for him to want an answer.. and asked because he hasn't gotten one obviously.
i also don't mind seeing this posted because this is news to me pretty much aside from a small random comment on a another topic.
something like this totally deserves a topic of it's own and only a "digital coin stealing thief" would bitch it was mentioned.
go figure some guy pops up and complains that someone posted news about an exchange hacking..
hmmm who would be motivated to complain about that ? hmmmmm hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hey leopard your spots are showing
any infomation?
Do people not read?? This has been explained numerous times. The theft happened on Baritus' work machine (yes he does have a job in an IT related industry) while he left it unattended via a keylogger installed by a supposed "trusted" work colleague. Now are people telling me everytime they have left left their work pc they a) Lock it and b) upon return think oh my "trusted" work colleague might have keylogged me I better run a scan. No of course bloody not. Cut Baritus a break and stop acting like you have never left your pc at work unlocked for even just a few minutes AT LEAST ONCE. If you say you haven't your full of shit. Anyway even if the machine was locked a person with physical access such as the work colleague can still get into the machine another time and install the keylogger if they wanted to.
Baritus is one of the hardest working and most decent dev's out there. He could have ripped people off many times over easily if he wanted to over the past year. He does not deserve this treatment at all and I actually feel sorry for him losing such a large sum of his personal dgc via such a callous, brazen act from a trusted person. No one expects their work pc to be hacked by a colleague now do they?? Therefor most normal folk would obviously not be going above and beyond to secure such a machine at work given the usually low level threat in that environment.
CryptoAve on the other hand is highly secured and on seperate servers totally unrelated and no coins were lost during hacking attempts due to the security measures that were already in place. Once again this is more than can be said for other exchanges that have been hacked and lost customers coins. The site is down and being reinforced as we speak.
Now that everything has been explained YET AGAIN, FFS BCX and any other muckrakers get a life and go trade/walk/gym/game or whatever else it is that you do, this dead horse has been flogged enough.
Baritus is one of the hardest working and most decent dev's out there. He could have ripped people off many times over easily if he wanted to over the past year. He does not deserve this treatment at all and I actually feel sorry for him losing such a large sum of his personal dgc via such a callous, brazen act from a trusted person. No one expects their work pc to be hacked by a colleague now do they?? Therefor most normal folk would obviously not be going above and beyond to secure such a machine at work given the usually low level threat in that environment.
CryptoAve on the other hand is highly secured and on seperate servers totally unrelated and no coins were lost during hacking attempts due to the security measures that were already in place. Once again this is more than can be said for other exchanges that have been hacked and lost customers coins. The site is down and being reinforced as we speak.
Now that everything has been explained YET AGAIN, FFS BCX and any other muckrakers get a life and go trade/walk/gym/game or whatever else it is that you do, this dead horse has been flogged enough.
@r32
I can't help but notice you seem to have really deep insights into Baritus' thinking and actions but I love how the story keeps
So your story is Baritus kept $30,000 on an unsecured public Windows machine that he only had access to a few hours a day while at work. Most IT firms have an internal network that is run by an admin that has access to every machine. If Baritus wasn't said admin, then this story becomes even more unbelievable than it already is.
I guess I am going to have to solve this mystery the old fashioned way through research. Figure out who Baritus is in real life, figure out where he works ad see if we can flush that thieving scoundrel of an employee out. Notice I didn't say I would out Baritus here. Of course none of this would be necessary if Baritus would post the addresses.
~BCX~
Since dev doesnt know security, maybe you could mentor? Seem like good way to be postive and help rep.
Professional security + best practices = no windows ever. Only bsd based (free/openbsd or mac) or any *nix.
Physical access = attacker can copy or destroy files only. Never able to fool owner into running bad daemons (user or root) or mod /bin etc. Ever.
Strong local user passwords and high granularity permissions!
Know *all* your traffic. Plenty of (full source) tools avail from repos.
All packages signed by trusted repos + rootkit detection + key auth only for remote logins.
Watch advisories for (rare) 0-days, get fixes quickly (good luck getting fix quickly from ms!).
Compile any code (esp wallets!) from source only. Never trust exes from anywhere but ms. Ever.
Check box for unknown hw attached. Duh.
Basic. Learn this stuff before ur coins are gone too!
Physical access = attacker can copy or destroy files only. Never able to fool owner into running bad daemons (user or root) or mod /bin etc. Ever.
Strong local user passwords and high granularity permissions!
Know *all* your traffic. Plenty of (full source) tools avail from repos.
All packages signed by trusted repos + rootkit detection + key auth only for remote logins.
Watch advisories for (rare) 0-days, get fixes quickly (good luck getting fix quickly from ms!).
Compile any code (esp wallets!) from source only. Never trust exes from anywhere but ms. Ever.
Check box for unknown hw attached. Duh.
Basic. Learn this stuff before ur coins are gone too!
Cryptos are seriously ready for the mainstream!
Recently Baritus the developer of Digitalcoin reported the theft of 500,000 DGC worth about $30,000 on the open market by an employee that physically installed a key logger on his unsecured and unlocked Windows machine.
Does anyone have any idea who this employee is?
Did Baritus have an office somewhere for CryptoAve and Digitalcoin?
Even more puzzling is that Baritus will not list any of the public addresses of the "stolen" coins which would allow for tracking the coins or to even to verify a theft actually happened in the first place.
I think it is more likely this mystery employee does not exist, no theft happened and Baritus has unloaded or plans to unload the coins. He couldn't just sell them outright because of the way it would look to people that you are actively soliciting for investment money from.
Now back to the original question, Who is this mystery employee?
~BCX~
Dev said "custom keylogger" so no hardware. no diff than grandma clicking punch the monkey on her windows box.
Tell me again why 'security guru' not using secure os and best practices???
Do people not read?? This has been explained numerous times. The theft happened on Baritus' work machine (yes he does have a job in an IT related industry) while he left it unattended via a keylogger installed by a supposed "trusted" work colleague. Now are people telling me everytime they have left left their work pc they a) Lock it and b) upon return think oh my "trusted" work colleague might have keylogged me I better run a scan. No of course bloody not. Cut Baritus a break and stop acting like you have never left your pc at work unlocked for even just a few minutes AT LEAST ONCE. If you say you haven't your full of shit.
Baritus is one of the hardest working and most decent dev's out there. He could have ripped people off many times over easily if he wanted to over the past year. He does not deserve this treatment at all and I actually feel sorry for him.
As for CryptoAve its on seperate servers totally unrelated and no coins were lost during hacking attempts due to the security measures that were already in place. Once again this is more than can be said for other exchanges that have been hacked and lost customers coins. The site is down and being reinforced as we speak.
Now that everything has been explained YET AGAIN, FFS BCX and any other muckrakers get a life and go trade/walk/gym/game or whatever else it is that you do, this dead horse has been flogged enough.
Facepalm.
Professional security + best practices = no windows ever. Only bsd based (free/openbsd or mac) or any *nix.
Physical access = attacker can copy or destroy files only. Never able to fool owner into running bad daemons (user or root) or mod /bin etc. Ever.
Strong local user passwords and high granularity permissions!
Know *all* your traffic. Plenty of (full source) tools avail from repos.
All packages signed by trusted repos + rootkit detection + key auth only for remote logins.
Watch advisories for (rare) 0-days, get fixes quickly (good luck getting fix quickly from ms!).
Compile any code (esp wallets!) from source only. Never trust exes from anywhere but ms. Ever.
Check box for unknown hw attached. Duh.
Basic. Learn this stuff before ur coins are gone too!
Wow, date registered: YESTERDAY
8 of 9 posts are in this thread. If you want people to listen to you, take off that pink scarf and show your face.
-tb-
Recently Baritus the developer of Digitalcoin reported the theft of 500,000 DGC worth about $30,000 on the open market by an employee that physically installed a key logger on his unsecured and unlocked Windows machine.
Does anyone have any idea who this employee is?
Did Baritus have an office somewhere for CryptoAve and Digitalcoin?
Even more puzzling is that Baritus will not list any of the public addresses of the "stolen" coins which would allow for tracking the coins or to even to verify a theft actually happened in the first place.
I think it is more likely this mystery employee does not exist, no theft happened and Baritus has unloaded or plans to unload the coins. He couldn't just sell them outright because of the way it would look to people that you are actively soliciting for investment money from.
Now back to the original question, Who is this mystery employee?
~BCX~
Dev said "custom keylogger" so no hardware. no diff than grandma clicking punch the monkey on her windows box.
Tell me again why 'security guru' not using secure os and best practices???
Do people not read?? This has been explained numerous times. The theft happened on Baritus' work machine (yes he does have a job in an IT related industry) while he left it unattended via a keylogger installed by a supposed "trusted" work colleague. Now are people telling me everytime they have left left their work pc they a) Lock it and b) upon return think oh my "trusted" work colleague might have keylogged me I better run a scan. No of course bloody not. Cut Baritus a break and stop acting like you have never left your pc at work unlocked for even just a few minutes AT LEAST ONCE. If you say you haven't your full of shit.
Baritus is one of the hardest working and most decent dev's out there. He could have ripped people off many times over easily if he wanted to over the past year. He does not deserve this treatment at all and I actually feel sorry for him.
As for CryptoAve its on seperate servers totally unrelated and no coins were lost during hacking attempts due to the security measures that were already in place. Once again this is more than can be said for other exchanges that have been hacked and lost customers coins. The site is down and being reinforced as we speak.
Now that everything has been explained YET AGAIN, FFS BCX and any other muckrakers get a life and go trade/walk/gym/game or whatever else it is that you do, this dead horse has been flogged enough.
Facepalm.
Professional security + best practices = no windows ever. Only bsd based (free/openbsd or mac) or any *nix.
Physical access = attacker can copy or destroy files only. Never able to fool owner into running bad daemons (user or root) or mod /bin etc. Ever.
Strong local user passwords and high granularity permissions!
Know *all* your traffic. Plenty of (full source) tools avail from repos.
All packages signed by trusted repos + rootkit detection + key auth only for remote logins.
Watch advisories for (rare) 0-days, get fixes quickly (good luck getting fix quickly from ms!).
Compile any code (esp wallets!) from source only. Never trust exes from anywhere but ms. Ever.
Check box for unknown hw attached. Duh.
Basic. Learn this stuff before ur coins are gone too!
Recently Baritus the developer of Digitalcoin reported the theft of 500,000 DGC worth about $30,000 on the open market by an employee that physically installed a key logger on his unsecured and unlocked Windows machine.
Does anyone have any idea who this employee is?
Did Baritus have an office somewhere for CryptoAve and Digitalcoin?
Even more puzzling is that Baritus will not list any of the public addresses of the "stolen" coins which would allow for tracking the coins or to even to verify a theft actually happened in the first place.
I think it is more likely this mystery employee does not exist, no theft happened and Baritus has unloaded or plans to unload the coins. He couldn't just sell them outright because of the way it would look to people that you are actively soliciting for investment money from.
Now back to the original question, Who is this mystery employee?
~BCX~
Dev said "custom keylogger" so no hardware. no diff than grandma clicking punch the monkey on her windows box.
Tell me again why 'security guru' not using secure os and best practices???
Do people not read?? This has been explained numerous times. The theft happened on Baritus' work machine (yes he does have a job in an IT related industry) while he left it unattended via a keylogger installed by a supposed "trusted" work colleague. Now are people telling me everytime they have left left their work pc they a) Lock it and b) upon return think oh my "trusted" work colleague might have keylogged me I better run a scan. No of course bloody not. Cut Baritus a break and stop acting like you have never left your pc at work unlocked for even just a few minutes AT LEAST ONCE. If you say you haven't your full of shit. Anyway even if the machine was locked a person with physical access such as the work colleague can still get into the machine another time and install the keylogger if they wanted to.
Baritus is one of the hardest working and most decent dev's out there. He could have ripped people off many times over easily if he wanted to over the past year. He does not deserve this treatment at all and I actually feel sorry for him losing such a large sum of his personal dgc via such a callous, brazen act from a trusted person. No one expects their work pc to be hacked by a colleague now do they?? Therefor most normal folk would obviously not be going above and beyond to secure such a machine at work given the usually low level threat in that environment.
CryptoAve on the other hand is highly secured and on seperate servers totally unrelated and no coins were lost during hacking attempts due to the security measures that were already in place. Once again this is more than can be said for other exchanges that have been hacked and lost customers coins. The site is down and being reinforced as we speak.
Now that everything has been explained YET AGAIN, FFS BCX and any other muckrakers get a life and go trade/walk/gym/game or whatever else it is that you do, this dead horse has been flogged enough.
Recently Baritus the developer of Digitalcoin reported the theft of 500,000 DGC worth about $30,000 on the open market by an employee that physically installed a key logger on his unsecured and unlocked Windows machine.
Does anyone have any idea who this employee is?
Did Baritus have an office somewhere for CryptoAve and Digitalcoin?
Even more puzzling is that Baritus will not list any of the public addresses of the "stolen" coins which would allow for tracking the coins or to even to verify a theft actually happened in the first place.
I think it is more likely this mystery employee does not exist, no theft happened and Baritus has unloaded or plans to unload the coins. He couldn't just sell them outright because of the way it would look to people that you are actively soliciting for investment money from.
Now back to the original question, Who is this mystery employee?
~BCX~
Dev said "custom keylogger" so no hardware. no diff than grandma clicking punch the monkey on her windows box.
Tell me again why 'security guru' not using secure os and best practices???
The addresses where the coins came from and went to are all in the DGC block linked to above.
Go look for yourself.
There's dozens of addresses. Not one address.
If you want this information it's there - fetch !
It's meaningless till Baritus post it. You have no way to know for certain. I am not here to fight with you.
It's not meaningless. Baritus came onto IRC and said his coins were stolen earlier that day.
I immediately went to the block explorer and found this block containing exactly what he had just described to me.
All the information is there and the times match up. There are no other blocks which could contain these transactions - this is the block.
If someone wants to follow the trails then I encourage you to do so.
How many stupid threads are you going to start about this? Lame.
By the way folks BCX admitted he mines DGC in the last thread about this so go figure eh.
By the way folks BCX admitted he mines DGC in the last thread about this so go figure eh.
If I were you I wouldn't get too excited about bcx mining on that pool. I read that in the other thread and that is his signature mark before obliterating sites. From past experience here I know he tends to get right in your face and leaves little doubt who is doing what. If you will go to the stats in that link he posted, you can see as he said, is donating 100% to the pool as I assume that's what the icon means? I don't think bcx is too interested in collecting dgc.
Apprently you haven't been around here long enough to know very much about bcx. A while back Baritus made some public challenege to a noob here to kill his new coin. When bcx stepped up Baritus made an apology thread clearly staing he wasn't talkiing to bcx. You should probably consult with Baritus and get his opinion before starting a war with bcx on his behalf.
Back on topic. I do have a fair amount of dgc and this does concern me for the integrity of the coin and its future. While certainly Baritus has the right to sell his coins, his credibility and reputation are on the line and posting the missing coins addresses is just the right thing to do.
I have been around DGC a loong time since the first week actually and I speak to Baritus alot so know alot more than you think. Baritus is not worried about a troll like BCX. What I find stupid is he is actually mining DGC while spreading FUD. If he had a half a clue he would help the community and hold this DGC to profit later on when it rises up which it will. I have seen his rants and threats for a long time here and on Cryptsy chat.
As for the idiots saying Baritus dumped the 500k DGC himself I will reiterate once again WHY would Baritus be as so stupid as to dump 500k DGC at rock bottom prices especially after working so hard on DGC for almost a year and CAve just being released. Anyone who thinks this has lost their marbles.
BTW Baritus has just employed an additional resource to assist recoding the necessary parts of CAve and getting it back up in a timely fashion. Now is a great time to buy DGC at an insanely cheap price which I suspect BCX is doing anyway given his FUD campaign.
How many stupid threads are you going to start about this? Lame.
By the way folks BCX admitted he mines DGC in the last thread about this so go figure eh.
By the way folks BCX admitted he mines DGC in the last thread about this so go figure eh.
If I were you I wouldn't get too excited about bcx mining on that pool. I read that in the other thread and that is his signature mark before obliterating sites. From past experience here I know he tends to get right in your face and leaves little doubt who is doing what. If you will go to the stats in that link he posted, you can see as he said, is donating 100% to the pool as I assume that's what the icon means? I don't think bcx is too interested in collecting dgc.
Apprently you haven't been around here long enough to know very much about bcx. A while back Baritus made some public challenege to a noob here to kill his new coin. When bcx stepped up Baritus made an apology thread clearly staing he wasn't talkiing to bcx. You should probably consult with Baritus and get his opinion before starting a war with bcx on his behalf.
Back on topic. I do have a fair amount of dgc and this does concern me for the integrity of the coin and its future. While certainly Baritus has the right to sell his coins, his credibility and reputation are on the line and posting the missing coins addresses is just the right thing to do.
The addresses where the coins came from and went to are all in the DGC block linked to above.
Go look for yourself.
There's dozens of addresses. Not one address.
If you want this information it's there - fetch !
Recently Baritus the developer of Digitalcoin reported the theft of 500,000 DGC worth about $30,000 on the open market by an employee that physically installed a key logger on his unsecured and unlocked Windows machine.
Did you get any of this important information you've been begging for from the block I posted containing the stolen transactions ?
If so what are your findings ?
Please post the results of your investigation here otherwise we will all have confirmation that you've been full of shit all along and there's nothing to see apart from one hard working guy losing a significant chunk of his coins.
Will you apologise to Baritus when it turns out that your FUD campaign is nothing more than FUD ?
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