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What you posted is off-topic and should be therefore deleted.
People that read that section (Meta) would like to see Alt section gone from this forum, because this pit is the trash can of BCT. They don't care, including Mods.
If you don't like FUD maybe you should go elsewhere.
Maybe you should take a look at a similar thread in Meta, where OP was asking if it is legal to use this forum for illegal activities to get a general idea what will happen to your thread. You should also look at death threats made by some Aurora cheerleaders and state your opinion in Meta on that matter as well.

BCX should be more aggressive with deleting garbage posts as this is one of the better threads I've read in the last few weeks here in Alt section.

 

I am not sure if I have read a post with the word 'scam' used so many times. Just repeating the same word over and over doesn't make it true. It's almost like these threads read like someone shorting stock.

I view the coin more as an experiment than a scam. Yeah, the dev could steal the premine (although no evidence shows he has), and the coin could fall apart and be worth nothing. Or they might actually adopt and support it. We shall see. Many of the same arguments against AUR could be used for BTC, when it was new -- well, besides the part about giving lots of it away.

I will also add that I own no AUR, never owned any, nor even think nation coins are a particularly great idea. It just seems weird to me to see how much FUD being spread about.

As for the gravity well, again, I am not an expert, nor know what the dev has actually done there. I just find it odd that other coins use it too, yet haven't been singled out like AUR has been.

Following the deletion of my message by the scammer (BCX)

I have created a scam accusation thread in corresponding forum

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-accusation-message-deleted-by-scammer-551875

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I just got a message that my following message was deleted by the *topic starter*

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@Everyone

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/request-to-mods-551215

I know nothing will happen. But I still want to draw attention of wider community here towards this thread and trust abuse of Bitcointalk forums.
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BCX, you loser!

AUR set out to scam a whole nation of innocents, using them as poster-children to motivate scamming money out of foreigners into this scam.

So I guess it is a particularly eggregious scam, not only targetting altcoin insiders like the members of forums such as this one who should know better thus maybe could be said to be deliberately participating in something they knew to be a scam, hoping to rake in some of the profits of the scam as fellow scammers promoting the scam (and thus maybe to have only themselves to blame if they made a loss instead of a profit) but also targetting a whole nation of innocents and heavily involving the press in promoting the scam and encouraging innocents to fall for it.

If the fact that the gravity well was broken was already established, and someone had already came up with a fix for it, going ahead and adding the gravity well to this coin seems a kind of weird move for a developer to make, doesn't it? Like huh why deliberately add broken-ness?

-MarkM-

Hmm... okay, again apologies in advance if I say something stupid, as I am hardly an expert on coin attacks.

But wouldn't this same vulnerability occur with most other coins using the gravity well? So why was AUR chosen as the one to attack, or the one to focus on?

Didn't DarkCoin's dev come up with sort of a solution to the gravity well exploit and opensource it? I assumed they did, or were working on it.

Also that the coin is supposedly more insecure than just the normal vulnerability to over-fifty-percent attacks, due to using the gravity well thing that supposedly creates extra vulnerability that causes the chain to need significantly more hashing power than the attacker to resist the attack that gravity well thing makes possible?

-MarkM-

The problem is people here don't know what a 51% attack and timewarp attack is. Quoting/Linking to this thread was a mistake. And ofcourse, BCX knows nothing.

Apologies if I am asking stuff that has been spelled out, but I stopped reading this thread like 20 pages back. Is the following more or less a brief synopsis of what occurred?

BCX claimed the coin was attacked, and forked to death.
In reality, all that occurred what the planned fork took place at 5400, the one the dev announced previously?
BCX claims he is instituting a time warp attack, although there is no current evidence to support it.

Argument changed, so now the fault with the coin is no longer that the airdrop will fail, dev automatically will steal premine... to the coin is insecure since it's new and lack of miners... so let's try to kill the coin before they can secure it?

Well don't be shy, let's just say 300x?

Can something be done about to not get this kind of manipulation repeated? Bunch of noobs managed to create enough misinformation. All because their accounts are old.

Concur with dev's response..

There's been no proof of any successful attack on AUR.

Though I hope to see one successfully pulled off so we can really evaluate and address KGW's vulnerabilities.

hmm, i think i missed a zero somewhere...i'm pretty sure it was around 28-30x gain during that period.

Scrypt coins could merge mine too. But it seems like independent mining is a crucial part on the less-than-zero-sum speculation game most of the altcoins operate.
Freicoin itself is not being merged mined, but only because we want to make a last hardfork (freimarkets) that may be harder after it is merged mined, of course it won't merge mine scrypt but SHA256 which is were most of the proof of work is.


If it was the state it could just have launched a 100% "pre-mined" chain and not just 50%, throwing the other half of the seigniorage to mining subsidies.
That's wasteful and unnecessary, look at Freicoin, for example, only 20% of the seigniorage will be used for mining subsidies.
You mercenaries analogy is great, to secure the network you can just use signatures instead of proof of work (operate a private chain)
If the operators commit fraud, it will be detected by any full node validating blocks (auditor). Blocks could be faster and bigger with no risk of having forks, and many other advantages (like being able of atomically trade with other private chains AND public p2p chains).
A national currency does NOT need to be p2p, it's ridiculous. If you want the trust-less part you can get it much cheaply.

But this was not a national currency, probably just another pump and dump scheme.

there will always be camping awp whores lol

i started back in cs 1.4 / 1.5 days roughly ..lost interest last few years though
played CS:GO cracked when it came out and worked on reverse engineering the DRM AKA: Steam CEG (custom executable generation) protection system
but i only got part way in cracking it full before someone else took over (i posted my research online in the OLD Russian cracking scene)
now since back in November i bought the game with Paypal and never turned it on one time lol PC gaming is boring pretty much
..far more fun cracking them (i was in more than one PC game cracking group almost 10 years ago)
and my point is crackers gonna crack
so hackers gonna hack.. AUR's blockchain lol
especially when the hack results in a shit load of cash for the hacker.. people are highly motivated to come into this scene and rape it.. so secure your shit or suffer.
No i don't work for the NSA to discredit scam coins i just feel bad for noobs that get ripped off, i have a heart and you should too people.. what more needs to be said really ?

He already made a statement about it.

http://forum.auroracoin.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=575

Take your pick about who you want to believe - the OP or the DEV 

Is anyone working on setting up some kind of GPUs for Aurora shop or something so the folk being air-dropped the coins can buy GPUs to secure the blockchain?

-MarkM-

There are people who have been playing counter strike 15 hours a day and after reaching puberty browsing redtube 15 hours a day and have now found a new obsession. So do not ever doubt their stamina or dedication their only weakness is hungry and sleepy. 

LoL. If only it were such grand a mission  

In fact they're employed by their own egos to grind out antagonistic monotone in each of the forum threads that might make a difference in order to mitigate polite, diverse and constructive contributions from posters with a range of backgrounds.