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koelen3

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Sooner or later, a man who wears two faces forgets

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 29, 2015, 12:16:21 PM

Quote from: koelen3 on January 29, 2015, 11:55:58 AM

I don't know if the guy was scammer but certainly it proves all the people wrong who said that site to be scam i think.

Lol why is that? Because they refunded the BTC?

First of all, it could be as well a PR stunt. But even if the guy is real, CMC would simply calculate whether they're better off refunding him (building positive impression) and carry on with their ponzi, or keep the 20 BTC and scare away any potential new customers. Simple math, they chose the option they believe is more profitable.

That proves nothing.

Yeah! that is/might be right . But atleast they went from 0 to something

xhomerx10

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Quote from: manselr on January 29, 2015, 01:07:47 PM

Soemthing is fishy. If you lose your BTC no one is going to give them back out of charity. Like the poster above prolly PR or some shit.

Not true.

Johoe returned 225 BTC

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9791998

Also Friedcat of Asicminer returned an accidental 200 BTC transaction fee found while mining bitcoin. Don't have a link but Friedcat rocks!

Edit: Found a link http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lb5my/asicminer_refunds_the_accidental_200_btc/

manselr

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Soemthing is fishy. If you lose your BTC no one is going to give them back out of charity. Like the poster above prolly PR or some shit.

pawel7777

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Quote from: koelen3 on January 29, 2015, 11:55:58 AM

I don't know if the guy was scammer but certainly it proves all the people wrong who said that site to be scam i think.

Lol why is that? Because they refunded the BTC?

First of all, it could be as well a PR stunt. But even if the guy is real, CMC would simply calculate whether they're better off refunding him (building positive impression) and carry on with their ponzi, or keep the 20 BTC and scare away any potential new customers. Simple math, they chose the option they believe is more profitable.

That proves nothing.

BillyBobZorton

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Im surprised he actually managed to recover them. Lucky. There should be a tutorial in what to do in cases like this. Most people would panic. Imagine if you lose 20 BTC 5 years from now. We need a to-do tutorial to recover these bitcoins, the options you have.. to avoid people instantly jumping off tall buildings.

koelen3

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Sooner or later, a man who wears two faces forgets

I don't know if the guy was scammer but certainly it proves all the people wrong who said that site to be scam i think.

mayax

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it's normal to receive it back. Bitcoin has many, many place who can launder it... and you agreed with them. So, let's not complain about any hack

pawel7777

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Looks like the unfortunate newbie finally got his 20BTC back:

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20 BTC has been sent back to the given address.

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/7ec3872c220e5a0a0c6b5af622825711744f23c1f70b40760593d54e2186d29f

http://forum.cloudmining.website/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=42#p190

CounterEntropy

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Quote from: Madness on January 29, 2015, 08:15:12 AM

Quote from: Q7 on January 29, 2015, 08:12:48 AM

But wait....if he successfully gets a refund, this will mean he'll be getting new coins which are not from the hack. Something is really fishy here.

The guy who got screwed looks a Newbie for real & seem like he don't know a lot about BTC there is no way he hacked bitsmap, I don't think he have anything to do with Bitsmap hack at all but maybe he just bought them from the Hacker or someone related to him with cheap price. .

This is simply mixed coins and has no connection with Bitstamp hack. Please read this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10292903

Following is a better explnation...

Quote from: Blazr on January 28, 2015, 09:34:36 PM

Quote from: tss on January 28, 2015, 09:20:52 PM

this is getting interesting. is there an underground network of buying and selling "hacked" btc?

where is it? and i want some!

Of course not. It is too easy to mix BTC. There would be no point selling it cheap.

OP is just being dumb and does not understand how far BTC spreads. It's likely some of us in this thread have a small amount of funds in our addresses from the Bitstamp hack too. Bitcoins spread around really fast. Check out the post I linked earlier:

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/450/is-there-any-way-to-track-an-individual-bitcoin-or-satoshi/2900#2900

OP needs to update the thread title, or else more people will be confused.

arvindr

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more popcorn.

Madness

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My goal is becaming a billionaire.

Quote from: Q7 on January 29, 2015, 08:12:48 AM

But wait....if he successfully gets a refund, this will mean he'll be getting new coins which are not from the hack. Something is really fishy here.

The guy who got screwed looks a Newbie for real & seem like he don't know a lot about BTC there is no way he hacked bitsmap, I don't think he have anything to do with Bitsmap hack at all but maybe he just bought them from the Hacker or someone related to him with cheap price. .

Q7

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But wait....if he successfully gets a refund, this will mean he'll be getting new coins which are not from the hack. Something is really fishy here.

Lethn

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Nice detective work, I tend to agree with the others, I have a very hard time believing someone would have that much money in Bitcoin without doing prior research first, either it means he's galactically stupid or he's lying, anyone with that kind of money who had any sense would be keeping a very close eye on things.

xhomerx10

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 28, 2015, 03:19:21 PM

Quote from: Roberto.4 on January 27, 2015, 12:18:46 PM

Quote from: dbshck on January 27, 2015, 12:10:44 PM

Unfortunately, it is not possible to revert Bitcoin transaction. Mind to explain what "mistake" did you do last night? Missclick? The 20 BTC was sent to another address just 7 second after receiving it. https://blockchain.info/address/19wN6jYvQSkW2acaSZXBavYAfde31YJrYJ

I was a bit drunk yesterday. I was trying to purchase 20 Giga Hash (2x10Ghs) hash power. By mistake I selected 20 Tera Hash (2x10Ths) from the drop down and clicked the link and it was gone. My friends told me this is the biggest bitcoin support forum. So if I tell my problem here, they can return my transaction.

Apologize for just getting up to speed, but I think I uncovered a clever way to wash nefariously obtained coins: Purchase from a third-party, or one you own, hashing power. Genius!

A third-party entity probably won't take the time to see where the coins stemmed from because they're happy to just receive a purchase. Hell, even BitPay didn't take the time to see that the coins they sent to BFL were only a hop away from being deposited into BFL's 1QAHV BTW, then used from that address under the guise that it stemmed from HashTrade. BitPay was extremely happy for the PR.

EDIT: After a few hops backwards, I find this: http://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1GNN1Lboxaak3YLafN6o5rUwByYtBBdWht

This is the second time I've come across NitrogenSports.eu. Yesterday, I saw it for the first time doing forensics on BFL's coins after they were returned to them from the FTC. What's noteworthy is that both Sonny Vleisides and Jeff Ownby are well-versed in setting up, maintaining, and scamming millions via online gambling sites, their partnership going back to Sonny's Laissez Faire City days.

It's neither clever nor genius; it's simply criminal. Creativex did this in May of last year with the coins he stole from Basic Mining investors. It's actually the opposite of clever because it was a sure-fire way to lose probably half of the value of the coins if not more. He could have simply given half of the coins back to the shareholders and said the rest were closing costs. I could say a lot of things about Creativex but the word "genius" does not come to mind.

koelen3

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Sooner or later, a man who wears two faces forgets

This doesn't really means that he have bought from the Scammer or he himself is ! though there are chances that he might be
But bitcoin spreads pretty fast and why would someone just use bitmixer and then post here , to show us that yes i might have got them from Bitstamp hack. Might just be a purchase or Fast spreading coins

Blazr

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Quote from: tss on January 28, 2015, 09:20:52 PM

this is getting interesting. is there an underground network of buying and selling "hacked" btc?

where is it? and i want some!

Of course not. It is too easy to mix BTC. There would be no point selling it cheap.

OP is just being dumb and does not understand how far BTC spreads. It's likely some of us in this thread have a small amount of funds in our addresses from the Bitstamp hack too. Bitcoins spread around really fast. Check out the post I linked earlier:

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/450/is-there-any-way-to-track-an-individual-bitcoin-or-satoshi/2900#2900

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Quote from: gogxmagog on January 28, 2015, 07:03:07 PM

I get the feeling that drunken 20 btc guy is related to this--->https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-help-me-938476 guy. It is why I think this is a criminal gang who sees bitcoin muny, but has no clue how to 'puter. Or just retards trying random doors to see if one is unlocked.

Ahhh, to be in Romania in the springtime...

That guy in the thread you found.... Where are they coming from?!? LOL.
I'm sure these users are all connected in some way.
Pretty bizarre that total noobs (like complete ignorant noobs) are showing up with somewhat large sums of btc. (Or at least claim to have).

tss

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this is getting interesting. is there an underground network of buying and selling "hacked" btc?

where is it? and i want some!

MrGreenHat

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 28, 2015, 03:45:27 PM

cloudmining.website (http://www.cloudmining.website/) is a fairly new entity: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/high-performance-bitcoin-mining-starting-from-00004-btcghs-since-2014-843417

And, who the hell is C. Demiris?

See 'dem IRS?

gogxmagog

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Ad maiora!

I get the feeling that drunken 20 btc guy is related to this--->https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-help-me-938476 guy. It is why I think this is a criminal gang who sees bitcoin muny, but has no clue how to 'puter. Or just retards trying random doors to see if one is unlocked.

Ahhh, to be in Romania in the springtime...

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