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July 20, 2014, 08:49:32 AM
#26
Dell accepting bitcoin could be MUCH bigger than you think

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/6d9e93aajw1eii0tf52tgj20hs0h6ac5.jpg

Andy, a Chinese, shared his experience on Weibo (Chinese Twitter). With the 10% discount, he bought an Alienware 14 (http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-14/pd.aspx) for 6442CNY in bitcoin

The same item is selling at 11999CNY in China: http://item.jd.com/1107676.html . He saved 46%

You may wonder why he couldn't buy it from dell.com directly before. Due to strict foreign exchange control, Chinese people could hardly have a "foreign currency credit card", and usual credit cards could not pay bills in USD or other foreign currency. As Dell now accepts bitcoin, Chinese people could order from dell.com directly, asking them to deliver to the US address of Haitao ( http://www.haitao.com/ ), who will then ship the item to China.

This is only the beginning.


But normal Joe Blogg's Chinese can't get Bitcoin easily.

46% discount should provide enough incentive for Joe Bloggs to open an account on huobi or okcoin. Despite China has banned bitcoin 10 times, I can tell you that, based on my first hand experience, Chinese people could still deposit fiat to exchanges in less than 30 minutes.

That is correct.

Care to give out detail on how an average citizen can do fiat deposit?

What about withdraw?

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July 20, 2014, 08:04:03 AM
#25
Dell accepting bitcoin could be MUCH bigger than you think

http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/6d9e93aajw1eii0tf52tgj20hs0h6ac5.jpg

Andy, a Chinese, shared his experience on Weibo (Chinese Twitter). With the 10% discount, he bought an Alienware 14 (http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-14/pd.aspx) for 6442CNY in bitcoin

The same item is selling at 11999CNY in China: http://item.jd.com/1107676.html . He saved 46%

You may wonder why he couldn't buy it from dell.com directly before. Due to strict foreign exchange control, Chinese people could hardly have a "foreign currency credit card", and usual credit cards could not pay bills in USD or other foreign currency. As Dell now accepts bitcoin, Chinese people could order from dell.com directly, asking them to deliver to the US address of Haitao ( http://www.haitao.com/ ), who will then ship the item to China.

This is only the beginning.


But normal Joe Blogg's Chinese can't get Bitcoin easily.

46% discount should provide enough incentive for Joe Bloggs to open an account on huobi or okcoin. Despite China has banned bitcoin 10 times, I can tell you that, based on my first hand experience, Chinese people could still deposit fiat to exchanges in less than 30 minutes.

That is correct.
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July 20, 2014, 03:03:35 AM
#24
very very suprising the preic did not react to it!  Angry i remeber the rally when DISH started accepting btc, why nothing when a 4x times bigger company does the same?
has it been assumed that at some point everyone will acccept BTC and that has been factored in the price?

Imho, as the bitcoin ecosystem becomes more mature, it tends to be increasely immune to news (Yes, not to groundbreaking ones), regardless of its positive or negative content.
legendary
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July 20, 2014, 02:26:03 AM
#23
very very suprising the preic did not react to it!  Angry i remeber the rally when DISH started accepting btc, why nothing when a 4x times bigger company does the same?
has it been assumed that at some point everyone will acccept BTC and that has been factored in the price?

One thing is that a company starts accepting bitcoin and another is that people use that method to pay, we need a detonator to bring people into this payment system.

the problem is BTC is actually present only in the US (maybe China as well to some extent). But other than that, BTC is not really popular in majority of the countries!
sr. member
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July 20, 2014, 02:09:18 AM
#22
very very suprising the preic did not react to it!  Angry i remeber the rally when DISH started accepting btc, why nothing when a 4x times bigger company does the same?
has it been assumed that at some point everyone will acccept BTC and that has been factored in the price?

One thing is that a company starts accepting bitcoin and another is that people use that method to pay, we need a detonator to bring people into this payment system.
legendary
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July 20, 2014, 02:06:11 AM
#21
very very suprising the preic did not react to it!  Angry i remeber the rally when DISH started accepting btc, why nothing when a 4x times bigger company does the same?
has it been assumed that at some point everyone will acccept BTC and that has been factored in the price?
sr. member
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July 19, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
#20
But normal Joe Blogg's Chinese can't get Bitcoin easily and I would bet my balls that there will be still hefty import duties to pay on that PC before 'Andy' receives it. China isn't going to let it's economy be undermined so easily.

How hard is it to get money into Huobi or Okcoin these days? I don't recall them ever stopping bank transfers.... that whole PBOC thing just sort of died. Didn't it?

It is still pretty hard to get money into exchange markets like Huobi, OKcoin and BTCChina. People have to transfer their money to a middle man first.
But it is still possible so people in China can still do it and they do.

I would think that China will eventually give in to their citizens using bitcoin and the capital controls will ease, at this point the price of bitcoin would likely spike.
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July 19, 2014, 09:06:45 PM
#19
But normal Joe Blogg's Chinese can't get Bitcoin easily and I would bet my balls that there will be still hefty import duties to pay on that PC before 'Andy' receives it. China isn't going to let it's economy be undermined so easily.

How hard is it to get money into Huobi or Okcoin these days? I don't recall them ever stopping bank transfers.... that whole PBOC thing just sort of died. Didn't it?

It is still pretty hard to get money into exchange markets like Huobi, OKcoin and BTCChina. People have to transfer their money to a middle man first.
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July 19, 2014, 09:01:36 PM
#18
The news has no effect on price?
sr. member
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July 19, 2014, 08:50:16 PM
#17
But normal Joe Blogg's Chinese can't get Bitcoin easily and I would bet my balls that there will be still hefty import duties to pay on that PC before 'Andy' receives it. China isn't going to let it's economy be undermined so easily.

How hard is it to get money into Huobi or Okcoin these days? I don't recall them ever stopping bank transfers.... that whole PBOC thing just sort of died. Didn't it?
Yes there was a source saying that China did not really ban bitcoin and it looks like all chinese exchanges works fine

Back to the post, Dell accepting BTC is HUGE..

Yeah, those exchanges are still working and they have still the largest volume, so that ban didnt what some people was expecting.
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July 19, 2014, 08:47:09 PM
#16
But normal Joe Blogg's Chinese can't get Bitcoin easily and I would bet my balls that there will be still hefty import duties to pay on that PC before 'Andy' receives it. China isn't going to let it's economy be undermined so easily.

How hard is it to get money into Huobi or Okcoin these days? I don't recall them ever stopping bank transfers.... that whole PBOC thing just sort of died. Didn't it?
Yes there was a source saying that China did not really ban bitcoin and it looks like all chinese exchanges works fine

Back to the post, Dell accepting BTC is HUGE..
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July 19, 2014, 04:08:26 PM
#15
But normal Joe Blogg's Chinese can't get Bitcoin easily and I would bet my balls that there will be still hefty import duties to pay on that PC before 'Andy' receives it. China isn't going to let it's economy be undermined so easily.

How hard is it to get money into Huobi or Okcoin these days? I don't recall them ever stopping bank transfers.... that whole PBOC thing just sort of died. Didn't it?
legendary
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July 19, 2014, 03:57:23 PM
#14
News out of China has actually been eerily quiet lately. Before it would seem that everytime there was a price run, we would be clobbered by some news out of China. It has been crickets from there lately
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July 19, 2014, 03:00:03 PM
#13
So basically this can be backfire, or can bee really good for BTC community.
China will be in game, but when this comes to rest of the world then price will go boom.

Yet again it had been showed that big companies must play first move that the rest smaller companies can make moves if this comes to light then price of btc can pop up to 10k.
sr. member
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July 19, 2014, 02:26:07 PM
#12
I agree.. A large company getting a discount with BTC could inspire them to buy/hold BTC.

Exactly, people will realize that the best way is not only to buy bitcoin to pay for items but to hold it, with this they have a true reason to hold bitcoin besides only the speculation.
legendary
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July 19, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
#11
why is the price not moving because of this news? i expected it to shoot to atleast 700$ on this news! it dint move 10$ Huh
legendary
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July 19, 2014, 12:53:13 PM
#10
I agree.. A large company getting a discount with BTC could inspire them to buy/hold BTC.
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July 19, 2014, 10:42:35 AM
#9
kinda ironic that the PC is prob made in china lol

Taiwan is generally the big manufacturing base of computer PCBs.
legendary
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July 19, 2014, 10:37:38 AM
#8
kinda ironic that the PC is prob made in china lol

I heard that Chinese earned 1 USD from each iPhone they made  Grin
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July 19, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
#7
kinda ironic that the PC is prob made in china lol
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