So we all are saying Dell will be mining just because they said they are "not looking into it"?
Topic: Dell : Possible plans to enter mining sector (Read 2434 times)
Dell joining the game ? As far as i understand, they are already mining, question is with what.
“We’re familiar with [bitcoin mining]. It’s not something we’re looking at at this time, but we are familiar with it.”
Says it all, i think they already is mining, or atleast testing it.
“We’re familiar with [bitcoin mining]. It’s not something we’re looking at at this time, but we are familiar with it.”
Says it all, i think they already is mining, or atleast testing it.
IF they could produce computers that can mine, it must be an advantage. I myself would be glad to have one. If they can come up with Asic miners, then probably the prices of the existing Asics in the market will at least drop.
Well if they throw some investment into proper research and development, they might come up with a option to mine more than pennies. 
There might even be some new job opportunities opening up for early pioneers of the mining, with big salaries.
There are loads of entrepreneurial and skilled people, who could brainstorm something worth it's investment. {I imagine Dell computers paying for it's own, electricity use, with coins they mine} That would be a huge magnet for buyers.
There might even be some new job opportunities opening up for early pioneers of the mining, with big salaries.
There are loads of entrepreneurial and skilled people, who could brainstorm something worth it's investment. {I imagine Dell computers paying for it's own, electricity use, with coins they mine} That would be a huge magnet for buyers.
Agreed that there are a lot of people/minds on this board who could get nice jobs at Dell if they get more into Bitcoin mining. It'd also be awesome to have a legit company who would not be subject to all these delays (because I think it's illegal). I think there would be a big 1st mover advantage for a REAL company that started making mining gear, and I think Dell has been looking to get its mojo back.
Well if they throw some investment into proper research and development, they might come up with a option to mine more than pennies.
There might even be some new job opportunities opening up for early pioneers of the mining, with big salaries.
There are loads of entrepreneurial and skilled people, who could brainstorm something worth it's investment. {I imagine Dell computers paying for it's own, electricity use, with coins they mine} That would be a huge magnet for buyers.
There might even be some new job opportunities opening up for early pioneers of the mining, with big salaries.
There are loads of entrepreneurial and skilled people, who could brainstorm something worth it's investment. {I imagine Dell computers paying for it's own, electricity use, with coins they mine} That would be a huge magnet for buyers.
it would require a very cheap price per unit as you can't mine more than some cents with it a day - when there are millions being sold, beside other mining hardware and big farms..right ?
this raises the question who else than companies would be interested in buying such hardware which produces some cents per piece while making noise, heat and eating a lot of energy ? And which company is interested in a tiny margin market?
Whether you can integrate them into heaters and similar stuff or there's no consumer use case for miners in my eyes when big players enter the market..
this raises the question who else than companies would be interested in buying such hardware which produces some cents per piece while making noise, heat and eating a lot of energy ? And which company is interested in a tiny margin market?
Whether you can integrate them into heaters and similar stuff or there's no consumer use case for miners in my eyes when big players enter the market..
I would prefer dell enter mining sector, at least their pre-order don't delay much..
I think most of the money that can be made in crypto related mining has already been made. Dell may have profited somewhat when GPU mining was profitable from probably increased sales in gaming related machines.
I'm not sure Dell would start mining bitcoin at this stage, but who knows, maybe an alt-coin during their burn in process for servers/workstations.
The budget for all the ASIC companies that have seen the light of day so far has been in the millions. I'm sure KNC's total budget for the original Jupiter/Saturn development was less than $50 million. Large US companies regularly do upgrade contracts with Dell for $50-$100 million.
Where there is $ and even the slightest interest there is a way. Dell has the financial means to get into the scene. The question is what would be in it for them and as smoothie noted if they jumped in they would stay hush.
Where there is $ and even the slightest interest there is a way. Dell has the financial means to get into the scene. The question is what would be in it for them and as smoothie noted if they jumped in they would stay hush.
With so many miners and big pools at the moment, very little scope remains for big business to enter the ring and have ROI within a year of 2 of their initial capital investment. But with any new "project" their will in most cases, be huge losses in the first two years anyways.
But to be a dominating factor, the investment will have to be huge.
I sometimes wonder if big companies, should not develop their own, Alt coin for eCommerce within their business. {Imagine a DellCoin or MacCoin etc}
But to be a dominating factor, the investment will have to be huge.
I sometimes wonder if big companies, should not develop their own, Alt coin for eCommerce within their business. {Imagine a DellCoin or MacCoin etc}
lol if Dell starts mining Bitcoin...they won't tell anyone in the public.
Their smoke screen statement of "it isn't on our radar" is bullshit.
Their smoke screen statement of "it isn't on our radar" is bullshit.
Whether they choose to enter the mining arena or not, it is very safe to say that they have the resources to dominate the current competition.
I do not think they will go into the "knitty gritty" of mining. They would rather concentrate on providing support on data centers and providing hardware solution for Scrypt miners.
But if they do, some of the bigger companies / pools would get some healthy competition.
But if they do, some of the bigger companies / pools would get some healthy competition.
Actually I m not trolling. I am sure dell designs, spec's and buys a ton of PCB boards. The ASIC's that they place on those PC boards are almost certainly made by some other company. I guess it's possible that Dell gave an ASIC design firm specs and had something built for them, it's way more likely that it's already a part that's in production, and sold to a variety of companies besides Dell. Dell could clearly pick an existing mining ASIC and then design everything else around it, but the ASIC itself will almost certainly have been designed and fabricated by something else.
ASIC design and fabrication is a very specialized business and usually requires a much bigger engineering investment than Dell is willing to make, IMHO.
ASIC design and fabrication is a very specialized business and usually requires a much bigger engineering investment than Dell is willing to make, IMHO.
I would be stunned if DELL had ever manufactured an ASIC. They BUY lots of ASICs, but I can't imagine that they have any actual engineers to design, layout, or fabricate an ASIC. I would also be surprised if they have any clue about what ASIC process is "current" besides what it costs to purchase 10,000 of some widget designed and built by somebody else.
You've got to be trolling. While Dell may not actually build anything themselves pretty much all their equipment is an custom order from Taiwan more or less since they do large batch runs of each board specific to each model of PC. They can go through 50K PCBs in a month - BFL can't even get their Monarch PCB designed correctly after 20 attempts because they skimped on copper.
Dell would just have to have a foundry subcontract a chip run and getting an ASIC designed for Dell would happen a lot faster than somebody like BFL or Cointerra.
Imagine 14nm technology : )
I would be stunned if DELL had ever manufactured an ASIC. They BUY lots of ASICs, but I can't imagine that they have any actual engineers to design, layout, or fabricate an ASIC. I would also be surprised if they have any clue about what ASIC process is "current" besides what it costs to purchase 10,000 of some widget designed and built by somebody else.
It's the future of BTC mining, wether you want it or not. Entry level is getting higher and higher every day, it's harder and harder to get ASIC's for avarage joe and break even on top of that. In not so distant future, only large entities will mine BTC with profit....that's one place where BTC's idea of decentralization failed horribly.
Thats what im saying for a long time now. Ever since ASICs hit the mining field, bitcoin core idea is broken.
Now mining has evolved to pure industry mining, with little or no place for average Joe to mine something other than worthless alts.
Yes I agree with you. MY impression was always that Bitcoinw as developed as a way to let everyone, even the little guy, have a piece of the pie. Once the price of BTC got high enough, of course, industry followed and now most people are priced out of buying a legit piece of hardware to seriously mine. It is a flaw, no doubt. I think scrypt tried to fix that but aren't there even ASICs that work on scrypt now coming out? Is there no way to keep the "little guy" in the game? (I mean with some other type of alt coin)
When the possible risk of losing money comes into play for the manufacturers that's when the litle guy would be able to eek out a profit. Right now it's too easy for the manufacturers to make them, "test" them for a month and ship them (Bitmain possibly being an exception to the rule).
It's the future of BTC mining, wether you want it or not. Entry level is getting higher and higher every day, it's harder and harder to get ASIC's for avarage joe and break even on top of that. In not so distant future, only large entities will mine BTC with profit....that's one place where BTC's idea of decentralization failed horribly.
Thats what im saying for a long time now. Ever since ASICs hit the mining field, bitcoin core idea is broken.
Now mining has evolved to pure industry mining, with little or no place for average Joe to mine something other than worthless alts.
Yes I agree with you. MY impression was always that Bitcoinw as developed as a way to let everyone, even the little guy, have a piece of the pie. Once the price of BTC got high enough, of course, industry followed and now most people are priced out of buying a legit piece of hardware to seriously mine. It is a flaw, no doubt. I think scrypt tried to fix that but aren't there even ASICs that work on scrypt now coming out? Is there no way to keep the "little guy" in the game? (I mean with some other type of alt coin)
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