Topic: Demilitarization of Iran and Russia. The path to peace and tranquility on Earth - page 2. (Read 447 times)

It's been a year, so I don't think we can assume that there are no shortages just because Russia seems to be doing fine on the surface.
Some of these sanctions will have an impact in 2 years, some will in 5, but they will eventually.

I'll give you some examples. First of all, Russia lost a lot of its military power and it doesn't have a way to rebuild it. Sure, some of it was old soviet-era tanks, but when you're fighting on your own land at the very least you can get scrap from lost vehicles, you can strip them from whatever is left. Russian scrap is in Ukraine now, they won't even be able to turn it back to raw metals, not to mention the vehicles and weapons that were in good shape, that the Ukrainians are repairing. Russia was building and maintaining this force since the 70s and most of it is gone forever.

Another problem is emigration. Many Russians moved in fear of conscription. These were often educated young people who would otherwise be earning money and paying taxes. This is not something with immediate impact that can be measured after a year.

As far as shortages go, the main problem is electronics, chips, technical support for machines. The whole industry relies on specialized machinery like CNC, laser and plasma cutters, computers. They are going to have a huge shortage of that. Another problem is going to be with already installed critical systems that they were getting from the West, like AC systems, industrial coolers, car control units (ECU and such). They may still be getting some car parts but the problem will be with electronics, especially for German cars which are popular among wealthy Russians.

For now they still have a lot of used car parts they can keep ripping out of scrapped cars and renewing, but after some time they'll be back to doing it on milling machines from the 70s and 80s, or they'll all drive Ladas.



Russia's always been great at rewriting history.
They attacked Poland, then came back as liberators. They were so worried about how the nation might remember them, that they kept a large army in Poland up until 1993 (!). They were basically occupying the country for 50 years building statues of communist leaders and naming the streets after communist leaders and the Red Army.

Agree completely. And the world knows similar examples. For example, 1945. Nazi Germany, or rather the system and its leaders, were actually destroyed, who were hanged, who died while serving a life sentence, someone hid in distant countries and sat very quietly, fearing, for example, Israel's revenge. Those. it was such a "chemotherapy", harsh, with side effects. BUT Nazism calmed down and did not manifest itself in that form. BUT. The second participant in the beginning of the world massacre, a friend and ally of Hitler's Germany - the USSR, at a certain point turned into a victim, begged for help from the whole world, and in fact destroyed his friend-competitor by proxy. And for many decades he poisoned life, hiding behind opposition to the West. But in 2014, having built an autocracy and a totalitarian, medieval, in terms of the division of power, education, the Kremlin decided to play with its muscles, having previously intimidated everyone around. Intimidated by the "second army of the world", "immense expanses", "love for the leader of the nation" ... Now Ukraine pays with its lives for the peace of the rest of the world. And we will finish off this version of Nazism, called rashism. I hope this time the world will no longer be led to the tearful pleas of this inhuman regime, and will destroy it, making it unable to develop and give its "sprouts" ...

Russia is settling in for this war. Many don't want to fight Ukraine as soldiers, but many others support what Russia is doing. Yet, life goes on as usual, with Russia more solidified internally. There don't seem to be many shortages. Even the sanctions have had their benefits for Russia.


Ukraine war: life on Russia’s home front after ten months of conflict

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https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-life-on-russias-home-front-after-ten-months-of-conflict-197315
It’s been a year since I last visited Russia. Back then, most people I met thought the prospects of a war with Ukraine were very remote, despite the massive troops build-up on the border. So I was curious to see how attitudes had changed since then. Equally important was to see for myself how the war has changed life in Russia.

The first surprise was how normal life was. Despite all the media reports of doom and gloom as a result of western sanctions, everything works just as before. Domestic banking is working, salaries and pensions are paid on time, ubiquitous e-commerce is bustling with activity, the shops are stuffed with food and consumer goods. In St Petersburg, at least, I’ve struggled to notice any change in daily life compared to January 2021.

Yet, digging deeper and the impact of sanctions is there. One issue that kept popping up was spare car parts, which have become noticeably more expensive. But even there new supplies are being shipped now. This goes pretty much for everything else consumer orientated. There’s no shortages, even of western goods such as whisky – the supermarket shelves are fully stocked.

EU travel restrictions have had their effect – but nothing like the measures introduced during the COVID pandemic. People can still travel to many countries, including Turkey, Egypt or the Gulf states.
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The recent reincarnation of this horde of Mongols is much worse than USSR. It is a mafia state, run by Soviet officials, NKVD style.

People who don't believe me should listen to RECENT Russian refugees in Georgia and Kazakhstan.

The evil idiocracy in 'modern' Russia is astounding.

The whole country has been Z-ombified and Putiniazed.

The only way out of this conflict is the total destruction and disintegration of the Russian army.

Anything else will lead to another war in Europe/Caucasus once Medvedev takes over when Peter the Gopnik dies.

About "wisdom" and "there will be no world war", I would give another analogy. The thing is that in the concept of the "Russian world", Russia and similar inadequate regimes cannot exist. Considering that the Russian world is synonymous with the words destruction, grief, misfortune, pain, suffering, degradation, ...
It would be more correct to say this - the Earth is a rather wise organism. But sometimes in the body of the body there are such cancerous tumors. And if they are not destroyed, including metastases such as the DNR, LNR, PMR, Abkhazia, etc. - the world will be stricken with cancer and perish. Understand, most likely you don’t quite understand what modern Russia, the previous USSR, and a little older Muscovy are! These are formations that never gave anything to the world and people, but only took, destroyed, or drove into slavery .. Even if they gave the appearance of something, they took hundreds of times more. I lived in the USSR, I saw it all with my own eyes ... fate bless you so as not to be a citizen of such a country! And I saw with my own eyes what the citizens of Russia did in the suburbs of Kyiv - Bucha, Irpen and many other cities and villages. This is really worse than Nazism, and the world, apart from strength, will not be able to stop it!

We probably need this coming war, anyway. Simply to bolster the economy.

To all Putinians and Putiniatkas Russia is where Russian tanks stop.

Sure, great idea. Demilitarize NATO so that Putin can expand into the Baltic states and get a land connection with Kaliningrad. That's what he dreams about.
The ideal Russia for Putin is Russia that includes Ukraine, Moldova, and all 3 Baltic countries. To be honest I'd rather demilitarize Russia because NATO at least asks countries if they want to join. Russia doesn't ask.
I don't support demilitarization in any form, but there are some countries that could do with a little outside intervention. For many years I thought that North Korea was the most deserving country, but Russia is slowly crawling towards first place.

Yes, I’m sure the demilitarization of those who oppose western beliefs is the answer to peace… That’s sarcasm by the way if it wasn’t obvious. I’m sure in Iran and Russia they are probably say the same thing in reverse. If they could I just demilitarize NATO then we’d have world peace… It just depends which side of the fence you live on in a majority of the time. The other guys are always the bad guys…

There will never be any world war and countries know about it. The world is too wise to die for the cause of others. There is no peace in war and no one delights in war. For there to be world war means that even African countries will align with major countries. But these countries are wanting a means to survive and secure her citizens, so they don't think of world war.

Well, yes, the police who neutralize criminals should be better armed, better equipped, have more powerful cars and weapons. That's right, otherwise crime will swallow the world.

And regarding those put "in prison and destroyed families"

1. Pay taxes, follow the laws of the country you have chosen and everything will be fine! Although I agree - there are no ideal laws. In the same Russia - no better, maybe even worse - executive services easily throw out into the street (and this is in the literal sense of the word), for example, old people who have a meager pension and a huge cost of utilities (although propaganda says that pensions are high and services very cheap).
2. Over the past 20 years, how many families have been destroyed in the United States due to non-payment of taxes? And I'll tell you the order of the DESTROYED people directly by the hands of Russia. And many millions more - really lost everything, were forced to leave their places of residence, lose relatives, work, savings, home ... I'm not talking about Ukraine, or rather not only about Ukraine. This is Georgia, and Moldova, and Syria, .... And this is the tip of the iceberg, where Russia did it directly with its own hands!
Or "planted for non-payment of taxes" - all cause more compassion?

That is almost guaranteed if Russia is not demilitarized.

The civilized world must not let this happen.

As far as demilitarization of countries goes, to disarm them means that you have to be stronger than they are. That's often why there are wars... one country trying to disarm another country.

The US isn't any more peaceful than Iran or Russia. They simply do their killing very sneakily. Consider all the people they put in jail for not paying taxes, and all the families they break up this way. First they conquer the people. Then they make them play ball through taxation.

Disarmament and demilitarization of nations is a tricky thing to do if you want to keep true peace.

Here, too, there are nuances... We must also understand "where the legs" of international terrorism come from, who finances, arms and supports them. I can recall - but the concept of bloody terror originated in the USSR in the 1920s, Ulyanov / Lenin was the ideologist, and already at the end of the 50s of the last century, absolutely officially the USSR began to develop "classic terrorism" and develop "fundamental principles", with such decisions like hijacking, hostage taking, bombings in residential areas, sabotage, assassination of foreign leaders, training terrorists for other countries. Just read the history of what terrorism was like until the 60s of the last century, and read what it was actively doing
  USSR in the specified period of time ...
I will give you one sentence. Alexander Sakharovsky, who headed Soviet foreign intelligence at the time, declared: "In today's world, when the nuclear bomb has made the use of military force obsolete, terrorism must become our main weapon"...

Iran, as for me, is just a tool in the hands of other people, like many other terrorist or anti-human regimes and groups. And one thing connects them - they have one "womb of terrorism." I will not say that all world terrorists are a brood of one nest, but the main ones that appeared in the 1960-1970s, yes. And it was they who then "inspired" others to do this ...

PS By the way, I'm almost sure that Iran's support for terrorist Russia is not just like that, not money is of interest to Iran. Most likely, Russia promised to realize Iran's old dream - and help them develop nuclear weapons, supply technology, etc. And this is "management and development of world terrorism"

The only reason why the Big Banking System of the world is against Iran and Russia is, they are competition for it, taking control through their freedom. Of course, Russian and Iran freedom is to make slaves of their people. But, the world banking system farms the people like cattle, while giving them the illusion of freedom.

I agree with the 2 posts above, the one source that created the religion of heathens aka wahhabies to terrorize the world wearing a mask with some imprinted islamic text, should be destroyed, indeed they are like a cancer to the world.😉

The problem with Iran is that radical Islam became a regional problem in the Middle East, but then metastasized into global terror. Russia's greatest threat is to the Eastern European region (of course, we're not even one year into the war, and these matters can last decades so the threat can grow). Israel and the U.S. have defense partnerships which keep Iran at bay but I'm not sure if there won't be major conflicts over the next 10 years in the Middle East. Radical Islam is not to be trusted.

I agree with this. The US START/START2 initiatives were the beginnings of such a process. But there are nuances here. It is difficult to explain from the point of view of politics / geolithics and other things. I will explain with a simpler example. On the example of our body, which is closer and more understandable to us But in a greatly simplified description:

So, in order for us not to get sick, we have an immune system, the basis of which is T-lymphocytes. This is a weapon. T-lymphocytes KILL hostile cells. the organism is our Earth, our world. Cells are countries and people. Hostile cells - cells that tend to disrupt the work of our body and lead to its death. Do you understand what I mean?
In order for us to live as nature intended, we must not have or have a limited number of harmful cells. In order for the body to protect itself and prevent some cells from killing us. Everything is clear and everything is fine. If we are talking about disarming EVERYONE, we are also talking about "destroy the immune (read - protective) system." OK. As practice shows, sometimes, very rarely, the immune system fails, and leads, for example, to autoimmune diseases. This is when the immune system "overdid it" and negatively affected the correct, healthy cells. Unfortunately, nothing is perfect
On the one hand, you can put a person in ideal conditions, remove all harmful cells, "turn off" the immune system. Question - does this guarantee us 100% quality life? The answer is simple - NO!
Why ? Because there is a concept of mutations that occur constantly, and sooner or later, as a result of the RIGHT process, the wrong cells will appear. And they won't meet any resistance... The body will be destroyed very quickly, due to the fact that "everyone is disarmed" / the immune system is disabled.
Therefore, there must be a controlling and restraining function in the world .. And therefore, to disarm everyone is to harm yourself

So many things are happening currently and I hope this will not lead to another war. There had been lot of confusion that is setting the world ablaze. The war between the Iran and Israel may never stop similar to how Russia and NATO had never been in one accord for a long time now. The is a fight for supremacy and this alone can lead to another world war.

You totally ignore the fact that Jesus's Father, God over all, raised Jesus to life again, on the third day after His Son's death. That death, btw, was the taking of all the punishment for the sins of all people for all time.

About 40 days later, Jesus rose up into the air to go home to His Father... Who gave Him control of and authority over the entire space-time continuum of the universe that Earth is located in... because of His great sacrifice on the cross.

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This is all true. This is not peace, simply because people all die anyway. True peace will only be accomplished when Jesus returns, Satan is thrown into the Lake of Fire (Hell) that this universe will become, and the people who believe in Jesus are taken to Heaven. Then there will be peace for those who remain... in Heaven.

However, as the saying goes, "There is no rest for the wicked." So, the people in Hell won't have any real peace throughout eternity, simply because they wouldn't accept Jesus in this life. If you think that Hell is all God's fault, Jesus is placing the absolute best construction on the life of every unbeliever. He doesn't want anyone to go to Hell. He is giving all people the best chance that they could possibly get.