In conclusion, from what I understood many users here said that the demo version is not similar to live version. Anyone can find out that the winnings are higher in demo mode and lower in live version for marketing purposes and to get more player playing the game provided. There's no article or clarification from the slot providers, they only mention the RTP which is the same in demo slots.
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The RTP in each type of slot game is always different and depends on the time you play it because for slot games I have quite a lot of experience that the RTP is quite high in the morning and midnight so this time will be concern if I want to play.
You are referring the Live RTP based on the actual spin count made by all players on each slot game because slot general RTP is always the same whenever what time you are playing as described on the slot game info before you play it.
I’m not really convinced the other players game result will give an effect to the RTP of the game you are playing since you are all playing with same RTP when you press spin button and each spin is independent to each other. I really think you are referring to live RTP as the general RTP of slot game which is wrong.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Casinos are giving us a sense of false hope. When we have demo mode, it seems that it is very easy to win and you might win big. So obviously demo mode is rigged somewhat to favor us.
But when you change it to the real mode with real money, that's where the switch happens. RTP has been change and there will be more near hit or near miss and obviously they are going to play with our emotions. And so we might go and deposit for more and the next thing we know, we have been losing like hundreds and if not thousand in just one sitting and we can't control ourselves because we think that we might replicate what the demo mode shows us.
And demo mode is not rigged because all casinos that have a demo mode feature definitely have the same way of working so you have to be able to understand that this is one of the trading strategies used by casinos and providers.
The RTP in each type of slot game is always different and depends on the time you play it because for slot games I have quite a lot of experience that the RTP is quite high in the morning and midnight so this time will be concern if I want to play.
You or we are aware that slot games can trigger emotions and make gamblers have to deposit more money to bet which will obviously be easy to lose altogether, but strangely enough when realize this why do continue playing the game? isn't that detrimental?
For things like this it is inappropriate to blame the casino because what is actually wrong is the gambler own thoughts.
Playing Slot Games On Demo/Free mode Vs Live/Paid Mode
Above thread is discussing exactly the same topic, you can read people's opinion there.
I think I have replied in above thread as well and I do not want to repeat it but in short is that demo mode is designed to make people try it for free, to feel the winning moment, and in the end to make people attracted to play it with real money.
Above thread is discussing exactly the same topic, you can read people's opinion there.
I think I have replied in above thread as well and I do not want to repeat it but in short is that demo mode is designed to make people try it for free, to feel the winning moment, and in the end to make people attracted to play it with real money.
I also remembered that topic, not much time has passed since then, only a few months! I haven't changed my mind since then, real and demo play are two completely different things for many reasons, and certainly the RTP is not the same for real and demo play. Except opinions, some people shared their personal experiences regarding this:
I have played in demo account and have won millions of dollars there but whenever I switched to my main account I never have such amount of wins.
It could be said that we have all already shared everything about this matter in that thread, so there's no need for this one as well. OP should think about it and probably lock it... If he thinks there's something more to be said, he can use the first thread for that.
That's because the demo mode is designed to attract people to deposit money to experience a different experience from the demo mode. In addition, people will not feel sorry if they use big money to bet in demo mode because the money is not real money but money the casino has provided for the gamblers. So if you win more often using demo mode, it's because that's how it is. The wins you get in demo mode will be different from if you use real mode, and you will experience more losses, which means you will lose your money. If you want to stick with real mode, you have to manage your gambling so you don't lose a lot of money. If you buy a bonus several times, you have taken the risk of losing, where you might not be able to get a big win that can return the money you used to buy the bonus.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Casinos are giving us a sense of false hope. When we have demo mode, it seems that it is very easy to win and you might win big. So obviously demo mode is rigged somewhat to favor us.
But when you change it to the real mode with real money, that's where the switch happens. RTP has been change and there will be more near hit or near miss and obviously they are going to play with our emotions. And so we might go and deposit for more and the next thing we know, we have been losing like hundreds and if not thousand in just one sitting and we can't control ourselves because we think that we might replicate what the demo mode shows us.
For that specific slot the OP is talking here damn how true is what you saying about the near miss.That slot will play with your emotions in a truly brutal way and I am speaking from personal experience as that has been the slot I am playing constantly from more than 2-3 months now,they will put that x100 multiplier with the biggest near win of hearts and your heart will go oh I hit the max win but no,it will give you 7 hearts instead of 8 f*cking your emotions real hard
.Even the enhanced RTP version called Sweet Fiesta will do the same except only it will be even more brutal to your emotions
. My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Casinos are giving us a sense of false hope. When we have demo mode, it seems that it is very easy to win and you might win big. So obviously demo mode is rigged somewhat to favor us.
But when you change it to the real mode with real money, that's where the switch happens. RTP has been change and there will be more near hit or near miss and obviously they are going to play with our emotions. And so we might go and deposit for more and the next thing we know, we have been losing like hundreds and if not thousand in just one sitting and we can't control ourselves because we think that we might replicate what the demo mode shows us.
Though hard to prove if the demo mode is rigged or not, we can't really compare our games with demo vs actual game.
Just treat these 2 as independent ones, and think that both should be using the provable fair system.
I won't expect to win the same as much as winnings from demo mode. There's no correlation at all.
Slots is a luck-based game, so every bet is unique and independent of your previous bet, just like in demo mode.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Casinos are giving us a sense of false hope. When we have demo mode, it seems that it is very easy to win and you might win big. So obviously demo mode is rigged somewhat to favor us.
But when you change it to the real mode with real money, that's where the switch happens. RTP has been change and there will be more near hit or near miss and obviously they are going to play with our emotions. And so we might go and deposit for more and the next thing we know, we have been losing like hundreds and if not thousand in just one sitting and we can't control ourselves because we think that we might replicate what the demo mode shows us.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Obviously this is very different, because regardless of whether it is real mode or demo mode, both have been arranged as possible. The real mode has been arranged in such a way as possible so that it can still provide profits to the dealer.
and the actual function of the presence of demo mode slots is to further increase gamblers' curiosity about slot gambling games. and it is not a loss if the gambling platform has to provide multiple winnings in demonstration mode.
As an example; There was a man who really liked slot games, but one day because he didn't have enough money to play slot gambling, in the end he decided to play slots in demo mode and because he kept getting wins in the game, he thought that at this time he was lucky. is on his side. And this triggered him to take out a loan from his friend so he could play real slots, but it seemed like fate said otherwise where from the start of the game to the end of the game he didn't get any big or small wins at all and now he had to bear the losses he experienced and as soon as possible he had to pay off the loan to his friend.
I'm a big fan of slots and I have two or three favorite slots that I play usually. When it comes to RTP and risky slots I prefer Pragmatic as the provider. One interesting thing I have noticed is the difference in winning chances between playing in demo mode and live mode at casinos.
For example last week, I played several bonus buys on the popular Sweet Bonanza slot which is known among gamblers. I played on Coins.game but unfortunately, I lost my entire balance only getting returns of 10x to 120x at the most. To put it simply since maybe it'sduffrent than other slots, when buying a bonus with a minimum of $20, it effectively counts as a $0.2 entry and getting a 100x return means you win back $20 which is just 1x of your initial buy.
So because of this, I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times, (running over 100 sessions) and in all of them I have got at least one 200x returns every 10 bonus buys. Which is so different than live mode.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
For example last week, I played several bonus buys on the popular Sweet Bonanza slot which is known among gamblers. I played on Coins.game but unfortunately, I lost my entire balance only getting returns of 10x to 120x at the most. To put it simply since maybe it'sduffrent than other slots, when buying a bonus with a minimum of $20, it effectively counts as a $0.2 entry and getting a 100x return means you win back $20 which is just 1x of your initial buy.
So because of this, I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times, (running over 100 sessions) and in all of them I have got at least one 200x returns every 10 bonus buys. Which is so different than live mode.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Every gambler will have their own game for their favourite one,dice and Hi-Low was the favourite one of mine.Because both game based on the prediction of the next bet,this give me more thrill in the game.But the important one in this two game was you need to change your strategies with the certain period of the time.The reason was the prediction based game,So the algorithm of the gambling site was mostly change with the time.The free slot was given by the gambling sites to increase the number of the user to their gambling site.The free slot will give the certain dollars,but the real slot give you more dollars.
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My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
This is something that have been extensively discussed on this forum and also on this board some time ago, I actually was the one who authored the thread, I should have shared the link to the thread here, but unfortunately, I can't get hold of the link to the thread right now since it's kind of been a long time, but I will make out time to dig through my posts, and I will share the thread link here once I find it.Reason why demo pays more, or should I say, it's more easier to win big on demo compared to the live version of a slot or casino game, is because the demo version of slot or casino games is more like an advertisement of the actual game, casinos or game providers know that, when they make winning a demo version of a slot or casino game easy, it will motivate gamblers who are playing it to want to try playing the live version of the game, as the gamblers will believe or assume that it will be easy for them to win the live version of the game, same way it was easy to win in the demo version.
This is the trick casinos and game providers use on gamblers, and many gamblers seem to fall for it very easily.
You sure you played bonus buys on Pragmatic games in demo mode? I have tested many slots on demo mode and Pragmatic games don't have a bonus buy feature on the sites I have played on. They give you 100000 balance and you have to spin in.
Other providers such as Hacksaw and relax or no limit city have the bonus buy option.
Positive, I have tried every Pragmatic slot with the bonus buy feature and that’s why I mentioned this specifically :Other providers such as Hacksaw and relax or no limit city have the bonus buy option.
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I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times
I believe you were trying to play the demo mode straight from casinos like; Stake which their demo mode doesn’t offer the bonus buy feature, probably due to not updating their demo modes to latest version maybe.
Here’s a link [1] straight to Sweet Bonanza from Pragmatic website try and let me know. I really want to confirm from slot players if the winning chance is much higher than live mode, unless if the settings are different it would be something is off.
[1] : https://www.pragmaticplay.com/en/games/sweet-bonanza-slot/#
This is one of those questions that pops up on a regular basis here on gambling discussion but is difficult to answer.
without an open source algorithm ours are simply speculations... it is not possible to use objective data...
a number of plays tending towards infinity would be needed to have a real measure of this phenomenon something clearly impossible ...
without an open source algorithm ours are simply speculations... it is not possible to use objective data...
a number of plays tending towards infinity would be needed to have a real measure of this phenomenon something clearly impossible ...
Unfortunately this is true.I have played maximum several hours to collect data on that specific slot the OP is asking as that is the maximum time I have to spend on playing the slot and the results more often than not have been more positive in the demo.This may be is because I have this belief that when we play without stress and we don't care that we can lose all the money the slot behaves and performs better,this though remains only a superstition of mine.
The only ones who can answer this are Pragmatic themselves but when I wanted to contact them for a complain they needed me to be a company or they don't reply to personal requests.In the end it remains pure randomness.
You sure you played bonus buys on Pragmatic games in demo mode? I have tested many slots on demo mode and Pragmatic games don't have a bonus buy feature on the sites I have played on. They give you 100000 balance and you have to spin in.
Other providers such as Hacksaw and relax or no limit city have the bonus buy option.
Positive, I have tried every Pragmatic slot with the bonus buy feature and that’s why I mentioned this specifically :Other providers such as Hacksaw and relax or no limit city have the bonus buy option.
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I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times
I believe you were trying to play the demo mode straight from casinos like; Stake which their demo mode doesn’t offer the bonus buy feature, probably due to not updating their demo modes to latest version maybe.
Here’s a link [1] straight to Sweet Bonanza from Pragmatic website try and let me know. I really want to confirm from slot players if the winning chance is much higher than live mode, unless if the settings are different it would be something is off.
[1] : https://www.pragmaticplay.com/en/games/sweet-bonanza-slot/#
I'm a big fan of slots and I have two or three favorite slots that I play usually. When it comes to RTP and risky slots I prefer Pragmatic as the provider. One interesting thing I have noticed is the difference in winning chances between playing in demo mode and live mode at casinos.
For example last week, I played several bonus buys on the popular Sweet Bonanza slot which is known among gamblers. I played on Coins.game but unfortunately, I lost my entire balance only getting returns of 10x to 120x at the most. To put it simply since maybe it'sduffrent than other slots, when buying a bonus with a minimum of $20, it effectively counts as a $0.2 entry and getting a 100x return means you win back $20 which is just 1x of your initial buy.
So because of this, I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times, (running over 100 sessions) and in all of them I have got at least one 200x returns every 10 bonus buys. Which is so different than live mode.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
You sure you played bonus buys on Pragmatic games in demo mode? I have tested many slots on demo mode and Pragmatic games don't have a bonus buy feature on the sites I have played on. They give you 100000 balance and you have to spin in. For example last week, I played several bonus buys on the popular Sweet Bonanza slot which is known among gamblers. I played on Coins.game but unfortunately, I lost my entire balance only getting returns of 10x to 120x at the most. To put it simply since maybe it'sduffrent than other slots, when buying a bonus with a minimum of $20, it effectively counts as a $0.2 entry and getting a 100x return means you win back $20 which is just 1x of your initial buy.
So because of this, I decided to try the demo mode on the original pragmatic website multiple times, (running over 100 sessions) and in all of them I have got at least one 200x returns every 10 bonus buys. Which is so different than live mode.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Other providers such as Hacksaw and relax or no limit city have the bonus buy option.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Demo mode has a better RTP, which means you will win often, but not only that, demo mode was made to make the user experience the big win on that slot, that's why it is normal to open any slot on demo mode and get a crazy huge win in less than 50 spins.
What i found fun is to see players avoiding demo mode because they have the feeling that Demo takes their luck for those big fake wins.
This is one of those questions that pops up on a regular basis here on gambling discussion but is difficult to answer.
without an open source algorithm ours are simply speculations... it is not possible to use objective data...
a number of plays tending towards infinity would be needed to have a real measure of this phenomenon something clearly impossible ...
without an open source algorithm ours are simply speculations... it is not possible to use objective data...
a number of plays tending towards infinity would be needed to have a real measure of this phenomenon something clearly impossible ...
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Theoretically it shouldn't work like this, because it ends becoming a misleading propaganda... It reminds me slots' apps from PlayStore where you play for free, but without involving real prizes. On those games, you are able to build a progressive bankroll on long term, which gets bigger and bigger if you manage it properly, unlocking several new styles of slots games. When you play those games, you feel really excited, because they are highly productive and rewarding (in a fictional way). So you feel tempted to try the real slot machines for money, as they must be the same thing.Probably that is the deal for slots providers to configure the demo version to be so generous with their players.
My question is, why does the demo mode seem to pay more than the real mode, and has anyone else noticed this difference?
Demo games are meant only for new comers to test the casino and it must have beeinbmade in a way to entice them into just giving the real game a chance.
Sometimes when I don’t have money in my account and still want to just gamble I normally switch to demo and at the end of the game I’ll notice so many wins and even some that I have never bee in opportuned to win when I’m in the real game: so if you’re new to the site and after playing the demo you noticed a high amount of win you’d just want to give the real game a chance hoping you’ll make the same amount you did during the demo.
What i really observed is that during the demo games, the winning percentage is far better than play the actual games. I was thinking the reason for this and come to a conclusion that there could be possibilities that the gambling sites have 0% house edge for the Demo games, so people are able to win more and then they think of playing the real games. They may not know that they will have to face more loses in real gambling games because the house edge is usually increased in real games.
1% house edge is the minimum which the gambling houses claim but for some gimbling sites they may have more than 1% house edge and some may miscommunicate the house edge configured on their sites.
I have seen a lot of people who see that kind of result, having more opportunistic rolls and high multiplier rolls in the demo mode rather than using actual money. I think it's to hype te people that are using it and make them feel that they have a chance to win and the edge on the demo mode is less compared to the live one. I think it's somewhere along those lines.
Definitely their way to attract gamblers and think that the game will give such big reward most of the time. It’s to hype the gamblers though the other purpose of demo option is to familiarize yourself about the game and this could be the other reason aside from hyping it. As a gambler, you should not rely on the result of your demo game, just rely on the actual and do your strategy based on your actual activities. Jump to: