Denmark Banned AstraZeneca vaccine for good - page 2.

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Quote from: tabas on April 15, 2021, 06:47:53 PM

Did they gave a timeframe for how long to monitor her after the vaccination?

I don't know, didn't asked about it. She just didn't went to work for 2 days. Though, after more than 24 hours since she got vaccine, she was feeling fine already. If nothing will change, she will get second shot after 12 weeks.
While my colleague got Pfizer vaccine yesterday. He didn't felt anything and he is feeling perfectly.

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Quote from: Gyfts on April 14, 2021, 08:44:53 AM

does the country choose what vaccine you get? Do you have a choice as a citizen?

In my country, we're free to choose which vaccine to get. As long as it is in the supply but I'm not yet vaccinated, I'm not one of those priorities yet.

Quote from: LTU_btc on April 15, 2021, 06:17:53 PM

My mother got AstraZeneca vaccine few days ago. On the evening after she got it, her temperature get over 38°C and she got headache. But on the next days she was feeling fine already.

Did they gave a timeframe for how long to monitor her after the vaccination?

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Quote from: LTU_btc on April 15, 2021, 06:17:53 PM

My mother got AstraZeneca vaccine few days ago. On the evening after she got it, her temperature get over 38°C and she got headache. But on the next days she was feeling fine already.

shows she has a good immune system
those that react with a longer delay. like getting a fever on day 3 means their immune system is not good

so take some positives. her immune system is very good and reactive. and settled down quickly after
what you dont want is a delayed reaction and a prolonged effect

so be happy your mom is good

but anyways with the odds of a death being 1/140k-1/2.5m from a vaccine infection..
thats alot better then
a 4/1000 death risk from covid(50-64)
a 13/1000 death risk from covid(65-74)
a 32/1000 death risk from covid(75-84)
a 87/1000 death risk from covid(85+)

~10,000x-100,000x better having the vaccine than having covid

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Quote from: Natsuu on April 14, 2021, 12:10:08 PM

These effects doesn't occur to everyone injected. These occurs to some maybe 1/1000 or something.

And due to the lack of time in these time of pandemic, the clinical trial was shortened to the point that there are side effects that are not foreseen.

in the 3-6 ,months of mid(1k) and high(20k) participation
they did not have any amounts of blood clots outside/above the norm unvaccinated populous had
it was only a couple cases out of the 20k

in the UK vaccines there were given out to 18million, only had 30 blood clot issues. and only 7 resulting deaths
cases 1/600,000 death: 1/2.75mill

in denmark vaccines there were given out to 140,000, only 2 blood clot issues. and only 1 resulting death
cases 1/70,000 death 1/140,000

the thing to learn here..

many idiotic conspiracy theorists claim that vaccine studies dont check care or monitor.. and yea by seeing these results in public shows they do check monitor and care
yep they idiots think there is a massive coverup and no transparency... and yet these numbers are public thus debunking them

its funny.. if they didnt check with just a few dozen cases.. or if they did check.. conspiracy idiots would be outraged both times

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And guess what, few other EU countries (including mine) already requested to get unused AstraZeneca vaccine from Denmark. But I'm curious to know how they are going to attract people for vaccination when there is so much negative information about this vaccine.

Quote from: Poker Player on April 14, 2021, 12:21:01 PM

I know quite a few people who have already had the vaccine and (I know that my environment is not a reliable sample) apart from the issue of cloths, it is the one that has given the most unpleasant effects.

My mother got AstraZeneca vaccine few days ago. On the evening after she got it, her temperature get over 38°C and she got headache. But on the next days she was feeling fine already. I know it's normal symptoms after getting vaccine, but still, AstraZeneca is last vaccine that I would like to get.

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Well, on the one hand, it is clear that millions of people are not dying because of the vaccine, as I have read in this forum, but on the other hand, this confirms the feeling that many of us have that there has been a great hurry to commercialize vaccines that give multimillion profits to the companies, shortening the deadlines and exempting them from responsibility. It seems that the percentage of cases are few, but I think that some states have preferred to act with caution rather than prioritize haste, especially when other vaccines are available.

I know quite a few people who have already had the vaccine and (I know that my environment is not a reliable sample) apart from the issue of cloths, it is the one that has given the most unpleasant effects.

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Quote from: mindrust on April 14, 2021, 08:48:43 AM

Quote from: Gyfts on April 14, 2021, 08:44:53 AM

What's up with blood clotting and vaccines? The Johnson and Johnson vaccine apparently had some issues with blood clots. I wonder how people are suppose to make an educated choice on the vaccine they get. The vaccine is free in most first world countries, does the country choose what vaccine you get? Do you have a choice as a citizen?

They were supposed to test these stuff before they use it on people. They didn't. They didn't test the Biontech and modeRNA vaccines neither.

The best vaccine is the one you haven't taken yet.

These effects doesn't occur to everyone injected. These occurs to some maybe 1/1000 or something.

And due to the lack of time in these time of pandemic, the clinical trial was shortened to the point that there are side effects that are not foreseen.

We all know that, clinical trial for vaccine lasts for about 6 years, while the current vaccines only have a clinical trial for a year or less.

But as I said, they are tested in rodents before tested in people, it is just that there are things that was not seen due to the shortness of the trials.

AND THERE ARE STILL NO CLEAR REASONS WHY THIS ADVERSE EFFECTS OCCUR

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Quote from: mindrust on April 14, 2021, 08:39:06 AM

https://news.yahoo.com/denmark-permanently-discontinue-astrazeneca-vaccine-102122205.html

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COPENHAGEN (Reuters) - Denmark on Wednesday will become the first country to entirely cease administering AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine following its possible link to very rare cases of blood clots, several Danish media outlets reported on Wednesday, citing unnamed sources.

The decision, which would remove the shot from Denmark's vaccination scheme, could delay the country's vaccine rollout by up to four weeks, based on previous statements by health bodies.

I wonder how that will affect the AZ shares in the stock market. It is up almost 1.5% today!

Denmark is pretty small country and as long as their is an shortage of vaccines I am sure other countries are going to pick up any excess doses. We still don't know for which part of the population the AstraZeneca vaccine is harmful,some say for older people, others say for younger woman who use the baby pill.

I also read that the Johnson and Johnson vaccine is experiencing similar problems. I wish there were more information comparing all the different vaccines to each other.

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Quote from: Gyfts on April 14, 2021, 08:44:53 AM

What's up with blood clotting and vaccines? The Johnson and Johnson vaccine apparently had some issues with blood clots. I wonder how people are suppose to make an educated choice on the vaccine they get. The vaccine is free in most first world countries, does the country choose what vaccine you get? Do you have a choice as a citizen?

They were supposed to test these stuff before they use it on people. They didn't. They didn't test the Biontech and modeRNA vaccines neither.

The best vaccine is the one you haven't taken yet.

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What's up with blood clotting and vaccines? The Johnson and Johnson vaccine apparently had some issues with blood clots. I wonder how people are suppose to make an educated choice on the vaccine they get. The vaccine is free in most first world countries, does the country choose what vaccine you get? Do you have a choice as a citizen?

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https://news.yahoo.com/denmark-permanently-discontinue-astrazeneca-vaccine-102122205.html

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COPENHAGEN (Reuters) - Denmark on Wednesday will become the first country to entirely cease administering AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine following its possible link to very rare cases of blood clots, several Danish media outlets reported on Wednesday, citing unnamed sources.

The decision, which would remove the shot from Denmark's vaccination scheme, could delay the country's vaccine rollout by up to four weeks, based on previous statements by health bodies.

I wonder how that will affect the AZ shares in the stock market. It is up almost 1.5% today!

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