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Quote from: Ararbermas on November 02, 2019, 11:55:40 AM

Because there are more big upcoming fights on this month wherein before their rematch. But you know it doesn't mean this is not an interesting fight. Because this both legendary are very hype within the ring and it was a close fight honestly. Both are very heavy handed .and on this rematch there's a possibility luis can knock oit wilder because if you saw the fight wilder struggling and always dizzy when luis lunching an straight job. So this an interesting rematch also.

If Ortiz couldn't knock Wilder out 2 years ago, why would he be able to do it now that he's 40 years old.

Didn't you see the knockout of the last fight? It was devastating, people were actually worried that Ortiz would die.

I think it's going to be much more conclusive this time, Wilder should knock him out in brutal fashion once again, but within a few rounds this time.

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Luis Ortiz has punching power, that is if he can connect, the way Wilder moves and how he set up his defense I doubt that he is not Ruiz who has very fast hands, Luis Ortiz picks his punches and his defense is also not good, there's going to be a knock out here definitely, but Wilder has a higher knockout probability than Ortiz.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 02, 2019, 04:04:02 PM

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Wilder is such a great fighter, but I'm pretty sure he will not take Ortiz, for granted, he has felt his power he was almost knock out if there is a minute of that round where Wilder is in trouble, Ortiz could have finished the fight, I predict the fight will end in a knock out or stoppage because both fighters are capable of knocking out their opponents, I'll still go for Wilder.

Deontay Wilder knows the power of Luis Ortiz as he ate some in the first fight and he was rocked badly for the first time in his career, the reason i am really impressed with Deontay Wilder is because he is really a light heavyweight fighter who weighs around just 207 pounds and fighting in heavyweight division and the power he have in his hands is impressive and considering the age of Ortiz i am going with Wilder even though the odds are not that great.

Right, that power he generates from his lean frame is amazing. He really ate a lot in the first fight and didn't go down although he was really in trouble for the first time in his career. But Wilder shows his heart, he come back strong and knock down Ortiz. And as I have said, it was impressive and he did improved ever since that's why he can get the job done in this rematch again, much easier.

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 02, 2019, 07:12:23 AM

Wilder is such a great fighter, but I'm pretty sure he will not take Ortiz, for granted, he has felt his power he was almost knock out if there is a minute of that round where Wilder is in trouble, Ortiz could have finished the fight, I predict the fight will end in a knock out or stoppage because both fighters are capable of knocking out their opponents, I'll still go for Wilder.

Deontay Wilder knows the power of Luis Ortiz as he ate some in the first fight and he was rocked badly for the first time in his career, the reason i am really impressed with Deontay Wilder is because he is really a light heavyweight fighter who weighs around just 207 pounds and fighting in heavyweight division and the power he have in his hands is impressive and considering the age of Ortiz i am going with Wilder even though the odds are not that great.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on November 02, 2019, 11:55:40 AM

Because there are more big upcoming fights on this month wherein before their rematch. But you know it doesn't mean this is not an interesting fight. Because this both legendary are very hype within the ring and it was a close fight honestly. Both are very heavy handed .and on this rematch there's a possibility luis can knock oit wilder because if you saw the fight wilder struggling and always dizzy when luis lunching an straight job. So this an interesting rematch also.

If there are many other fights , it does not mean that we overlook this match which is gonna held on November 23 at the MGM Arena in Las Vegas. In their last match which was held on March 3, 2018 , Wilder defeated Luis and I ma hoping to see the same result in this rematch. Wilder is defending champion and I don't think Luis can take this title from him.

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Quote from: bering on November 01, 2019, 02:43:16 AM

Looking at to their fight statistics i think both of fighters can be considered as one of the best boxer and their match always be entertaining us but in this case Deontay Wilder slightly better than Luis Ortiz because on the first met Wilder can able to won the fight with TKO but i recently seeing their interview that both of them will guarantee not ended this fight with 12 round which mean they have an ambition to finished the match with TKO again

Wilder took that '0' from Ortiz L column. So definitely, prior to the fight both fighters didn't have any lost. So their first fight was really amazing as both are confident to win.

However, The Brown Bomber was able to withstand Ortiz best punches and in turn knock him out with a huge combination and the final nail is the upper cut. His been throwing that upper cut in that fight, but he hit Ortiz perfectly. That's why I said that the fight will end up the same, Wilder still has the upper hand and as someone has said, Ortiz looks really old, probably here for the paycheck.

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Quote from: serjent05 on November 02, 2019, 08:21:07 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 01, 2019, 12:59:27 AM

Probably another get busy fight for Wilder but this is very dangerous for him. His chin was tested by Ortiz and he almost got knock down in their first fight. And this is the reason why he is giving Ortiz a rematch to prove that he is the best (well Fury can debate that).

I think it will end up the same, Wilder will win but as boxing fans we wanted it to be as exciting or even more compare to their first fight.

Probably not, as you stated Ortiz had found some flaw on the defence of Wilder and might probably exploit it (strategy towards Wilder's chin). I am sure Ortiz work extra hard for this fight and the thinking of the fight ends up Wilder winning is somehow leaning on over expectation. I guess it is still too early to say who will win, in boxing both have punching power so the possibility to knock out the other opponent goes on both ends.

Everything could happen in a fight.Even underdogs would really able to make up some upset matches.It depends though because lucky punches
can happen or even sudden turns of events due to tremendous preparation for the fight.Between these two its clear that Wilder is heavily favorite but
don't easily take up chances because outcome can possibly be turned table instead.

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Because there are more big upcoming fights on this month wherein before their rematch. But you know it doesn't mean this is not an interesting fight. Because this both legendary are very hype within the ring and it was a close fight honestly. Both are very heavy handed .and on this rematch there's a possibility luis can knock oit wilder because if you saw the fight wilder struggling and always dizzy when luis lunching an straight job. So this an interesting rematch also.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 01, 2019, 12:59:27 AM

Probably another get busy fight for Wilder but this is very dangerous for him. His chin was tested by Ortiz and he almost got knock down in their first fight. And this is the reason why he is giving Ortiz a rematch to prove that he is the best (well Fury can debate that).

I think it will end up the same, Wilder will win but as boxing fans we wanted it to be as exciting or even more compare to their first fight.

Probably not, as you stated Ortiz had found some flaw on the defence of Wilder and might probably exploit it (strategy towards Wilder's chin). I am sure Ortiz work extra hard for this fight and the thinking of the fight ends up Wilder winning is somehow leaning on over expectation. I guess it is still too early to say who will win, in boxing both have punching power so the possibility to knock out the other opponent goes on both ends.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 01, 2019, 04:11:56 PM

This is some great news... and very low odds for Deontey Wilder win.
Maybe Wilder win by KO would be best bet here.
I just can't see Ortiz finishing this fight on his feets

Wilder is such a great fighter, but I'm pretty sure he will not take Ortiz, for granted, he has felt his power he was almost knock out if there is a minute of that round where Wilder is in trouble, Ortiz could have finished the fight, I predict the fight will end in a knock out or stoppage because both fighters are capable of knocking out their opponents, I'll still go for Wilder.

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Quote from: Upgate on November 01, 2019, 02:16:02 PM

This is a big match with two competitive fighters but it's not going to be much of an excitement just like deaontay wilder fights he has a way of dominating the match from start to finish making the fight boring

You are definitely wrong in this. Have you watched the whole fight? First, it was not boring at all. It was one hell of a fight. Second, Ortiz had the scorecards in the first four rounds. It was not all Wilder from start to finish. In fact, both showtime and CBS Sports had Ortiz ahead when the fight was stopped.^[1] Third, Ortiz nearly put Wilder down if not with the bell. Ortiz has the strong punches and capable enough to put Wilder down.

I would consider this second match a Wilder fight though, but mainly on the age factor. Ortiz may be a strong and brilliant boxer with his amazing counter-punching skills and power punches, but with an age of 40 his reflexes must be a lot different now. This fight should have been fought much earlier.

[1] https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/deontay-wilder-thrills-with-knockout-of-luis-ortiz-to-retain-heavyweight-title/

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Quote from: Oceat on November 01, 2019, 04:21:23 PM

Quote from: Upgate on November 01, 2019, 02:16:02 PM

This is a big match with two competitive fighters but it's not going to be much of an excitement just like deaontay wilder fights he has a way of dominating the match from start to finish making the fight boring

I wonder if one of them would really hit the canvas, now that they were both aware of their opponents style. Ortiz is a little too good for Wilder but I guess he will make something to get closer with that gap. A lot of fight is getting too close each day and that makes us who do love sports and gambling at the same time to not miss out with them.

On the first fight, Luis Ortiz was down 4x, Deontay "almost" went down but he was saved by the bell. So if this fight, everyone thinks the Luis Ortiz has a chance to give Wilder his first lost because of the guts he show in the first fight. However, I agree that Ortiz chance here are very slim because Wilder definitely gain a lot of experience from the first Fury fight and we could tell the really that he really became a better fighter now as compare to 2 years ago. So as much as we love to see Ortiz disturbing the Heavyweight scene similar to what Ruiz did, I don't think he has enough tools to beat Wilder as this point.

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Quote from: DarkDays on November 01, 2019, 10:36:43 AM

I think the Ortiz rematch will go much the same way that the Stiverne rematch went... Wilder will probably KO him MUCH quicker this time.

Ortiz is old AF, he's probably the oldest 40-year old I've ever seen... He could easily be 45-46. Either way, he was beaten by Wilder almost 2 years ago by knockout, so the same result will happen again.

Wilder has gotten better, Ortiz couldn't even KO Christian Hammer in their last fight.

I predict Wilder by savage knockout within 4 rounds.

You nailed it, I don't think that Ortiz has improved in his last 3 fights after his first bout with Wilder. But we all know that Wilder did give us one of the best performance with the Fury fight. While Ortiz looks old as f**k against Hammer.

I know that style makes fight, but I see Deontay adjusted already to the style of Ortiz so it will be much easier for him in the rematch, brutal KO under 6 rounds for Wilder.

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Quote from: Upgate on November 01, 2019, 02:16:02 PM

This is a big match with two competitive fighters but it's not going to be much of an excitement just like deaontay wilder fights he has a way of dominating the match from start to finish making the fight boring

I wonder if one of them would really hit the canvas, now that they were both aware of their opponents style. Ortiz is a little too good for Wilder but I guess he will make something to get closer with that gap. A lot of fight is getting too close each day and that makes us who do love sports and gambling at the same time to not miss out with them.

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This is some great news... and very low odds for Deontey Wilder win.
Maybe Wilder win by KO would be best bet here.
I just can't see Ortiz finishing this fight on his feets

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Quote from: bassbity on November 01, 2019, 12:05:41 PM

Please tell me which television broadcasts this boxing match, because in my country I don't show this super boxing, Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz is a fierce fight if I bet this might be a big profit.
I look forward to this battle begin.

You can watch the match in Fox Sports or Sky Sports, i am not sure which country you are from and hence i cannot give you a proper guidance on which channel it will telecast, the first fight was really interesting as Deontay Wilder had some challenges to overcome before defeating Luis Ortiz, if not for the age of Ortiz i would have given him a real chance against a young Wilder with a lot of power in his shots.

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This is a big match with two competitive fighters but it's not going to be much of an excitement just like deaontay wilder fights he has a way of dominating the match from start to finish making the fight boring

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Please tell me which television broadcasts this boxing match, because in my country I don't show this super boxing, Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz is a fierce fight if I bet this might be a big profit.
I look forward to this battle begin.

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Quote from: Jating on November 01, 2019, 12:45:19 AM

It's because boxing fans are waiting for the Joshua vs Ruiz II.

Or the fans preferred to see Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury Cheesy

Probably,

Good thing is that the heavyweight division is alive again, no more Klitschko brothers who have been dominating the division for so long. Of course, we wanted to see some upsets here, so really shake up the division and makes it more interesting.

Of course there could be boxing bettors here who always goes for the underdogs.

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Quote from: smyslov on November 01, 2019, 03:52:36 AM

The first fight is very exciting Ruiz got Wilder hurt in that fight, but still Wilder is the better fighter between the two, he is the more intelligent fighter has a great move and a lot of hay maker in his arsenal, the first one is exciting I expect the second to be another exciting fight, it will be slug fest like the first one, and we can expect a knock out here Deontay will win by a knock out here.

Luis Ortiz is 40 years old and if the fight would have happened when he was much younger then we would have seen a good fight and even in the first fight Luis Ortiz was able to hurt Wilder but then he gassed out and then Deontay Wilder was able to finish him after that and that fight tested the chin of Deontay Wilder.

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