'Designer babies' debate should start, scientists say - page 2.

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Quote from: criptix on January 20, 2015, 10:42:59 AM

the problem here:

who will get the designer babys?

the 1 %.

who is profiting from it?

the 1%.

who will not profit from it?

the other 99%

i think this a pretty realistic prediction.

Getting designer babies is not something which everybody wants.
People would rather conceive naturally.

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Quote from: Chef Ramsay on January 20, 2015, 12:12:08 AM

Want one of these or do you wanna steer clear of it and taking your chances? Or, if you're like me not want any children at all?

Oh, come on! Have a heart. Don't you want any kids at all? They are fun and wonderful. Just watch the kids playing in the ghetto.

Now, I know the world will probably destroy itself before any of us gets old enough to wish we had kids to take care of us in our old-age weakness. But they would probably stick us in a nursing home anyway. So, maybe you are right.

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Quote from: username18333 on January 20, 2015, 06:36:21 PM

Quote from: BADecker on January 20, 2015, 06:02:57 PM

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Yes, but, if we get enough good designer babies from the 1%, they will gradually replace the 99%. As they replace them, they will push the 1% to 2%, and then to 4%, because they will be designed smart enough to gradually out think, out perform, and out live the weaker, 99%. after awhile it will be freedom for all, because all will be designer smart, and there will be nobody who can outsmart any of them into slavery.

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Where there is a will, there is a way. If there is a chance in a million that you can do something, anything, to keep what you want from ending, do it. Pry the door open or, if need be, wedge your foot in that door and keep it open.

Your statement presumes that these “designers” would be so “benevolent” as to aspire such “equality.”

On the contrary. Genetics is what determines everything about us. Other life circumstances only modify us temporarily. "Smart" will be one of the things that parents will want for their kids. So, after a while all kids will be equally smart by genetics, and at the absolute top of the class. Nobody will have the opportunity to outsmart someone else, because everybody will be able to see through it. Benevolency won't have anything to do with it.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 20, 2015, 06:02:57 PM

. . .

Yes, but, if we get enough good designer babies from the 1%, they will gradually replace the 99%. As they replace them, they will push the 1% to 2%, and then to 4%, because they will be designed smart enough to gradually out think, out perform, and out live the weaker, 99%. after awhile it will be freedom for all, because all will be designer smart, and there will be nobody who can outsmart any of them into slavery.

Quote from: Pauline Kael, BrainyQuote.com link=https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/p/paulinekae120326.html

Where there is a will, there is a way. If there is a chance in a million that you can do something, anything, to keep what you want from ending, do it. Pry the door open or, if need be, wedge your foot in that door and keep it open.

Your statement presumes that these “designers” would be so “benevolent” as to aspire such “equality.”

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Quote from: criptix on January 20, 2015, 10:42:59 AM

the problem here:

who will get the designer babys?

the 1 %.

who is profiting from it?

the 1%.

who will not profit from it?

the other 99%

i think this a pretty realistic prediction.

Yes, but, if we get enough good designer babies from the 1%, they will gradually replace the 99%. As they replace them, they will push the 1% to 2%, and then to 4%, because they will be designed smart enough to gradually out think, out perform, and out live the weaker, 99%. after awhile it will be freedom for all, because all will be designer smart, and there will be nobody who can outsmart any of them into slavery.

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Quote from: criptix on January 20, 2015, 10:42:59 AM

the problem here:

who will get the designer babys?

the 1 %.

who is profiting from it?

the 1%.

who will not profit from it?

the other 99%

i think this a pretty realistic prediction.

so true, this just says it.

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the problem here:

who will get the designer babys?

the 1 %.

who is profiting from it?

the 1%.

who will not profit from it?

the other 99%

i think this a pretty realistic prediction.

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Quote from: username18333 on January 20, 2015, 12:15:34 AM

Generally speaking, Homo sapiens sapiens babyhood is rather ephemeral; therefor, that one would so consider it (indeed, neglecting its adulthood) is, without a context of the subspecies’ natures, peculiar.

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Rapid progress in genetics is making "designer babies" more likely and society needs to be prepared, leading scientists have told the BBC.

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Dr Tony Perry, a pioneer in cloning, has announced precise DNA editing at the moment of conception in mice.

He said huge advances in the past two years meant "designer babies" were no longer HG Wells territory.

Other leading scientists and bioethicists argue it is time for a serious public debate on the issue.

Designer babies - genetically modified for beauty, intelligence or to be free of disease - have long been a topic of science fiction.

Dr Perry, who was part of the teams to clone the first mice and pigs, said the prospect was still fiction, but science was rapidly catching up to make elements of it possible.

In the journal Scientific Reports, he details precisely editing the genome of mice at the point DNA from the sperm and egg come together.

Dr Perry, who is based at the University of Bath, told the BBC: "We used a pair of molecular scissors and a molecular sat-nav that tells the scissors where to cut.

"It is approaching 100% efficiency already, it's a case of 'you shoot you score'."

More...http://www.bbc.com/news/health-30742774

Want one of these or do you wanna steer clear of it and taking your chances? Or, if you're like me not want any children at all?

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