Take 10$ BTC for it?
Pm me
Trying to buy another account in a lending forum to continue on with another scam attempt. Pm me
Topic: Despised Icon-- ALT of Atari--,Logan-- and now flooding the forum with new accts (Read 1890 times)
November 30, 2016, 02:27:05 PM
At it again!
November 27, 2016, 05:37:32 PM
Another alt of this loser exposed:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1693512.new;boardseen#new
Now trying to get people to cash out $100 in neteller for him which will result you getting scammed
out of that money in the end. Still connected to his failed poker addicted ways of a TRUE GAMBLING MANIC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1693512.new;boardseen#new
Now trying to get people to cash out $100 in neteller for him which will result you getting scammed
out of that money in the end. Still connected to his failed poker addicted ways of a TRUE GAMBLING MANIC.
November 09, 2016, 04:58:31 PM
TL;DR
Apart from the fact this is in the Reputation thread, not the Scam Accusation thread, can you post a TX of the loan that you gave please?
I knew someone would say that so I posted it there too:Apart from the fact this is in the Reputation thread, not the Scam Accusation thread, can you post a TX of the loan that you gave please?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1668701
TX for the $5 loan said he would pay back $8 but never did:
https://blockchain.info/tx/510e359fbe306b11aea7c93bf7203afe063e59819ba623e7d6667aecb516aa3e
November 08, 2016, 07:16:50 PM
TL;DR
Apart from the fact this is in the Reputation thread, not the Scam Accusation thread, can you post a TX of the loan that you gave please?
Apart from the fact this is in the Reputation thread, not the Scam Accusation thread, can you post a TX of the loan that you gave please?
November 06, 2016, 04:26:08 PM
So you might as well blame the next person who buys this amazon $25 gift card too for not knowing they are involving themselves with a scammer then! 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16779394
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16779394
Yes. I would. A newbie account trying to sell an amazon card that requires you to go first? The sirens must be so loud your neighbors can hear them! $25 value for $8? What a good deal! Except... it's probably not, and just a clear scam. I might understand $20 as the pricetag... but you can get lots of everyday things from Amazon regardless, so I don't quite understand. The $8 would mean that it's probably either a scam or the card was bought with illicit funds. Either way it's not worth the purchase... not to say that higher price = higher quality
Atleast they have this thread to look at and a redtrust to see on their profile from KWH to look at. Cause I was not privileged enough to have these blaring signs to warn me not to touch this user with a 10 foot pole. 
They don't need a thread to warn them if the user already looks like a scammer.
I'm not saying that it's fine to scam, but you have to place a degree of blame on the person who was scammed.
If I were to sell a stolen credit card to someone, would you say that the buyer was never at fault during the entire scenario? I'd hope not... otherwise, we would have bigger problems to worry about.
Though this example is not a great analogy (comparison between credit cards and other items) you could replace it with other objects that are faulty in some way and it still drives the point: the buyer should be wary about what they're buying. I wouldn't just respond to the first used car sale and buy it instantly. I would check the car for any damages.
(Or in these online cases, usually there is no car.)
November 05, 2016, 07:13:13 PM
So you might as well blame the next person who buys this amazon $25 gift card too for not knowing they are involving themselves with a scammer then!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16779394
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16779394
Yes. I would. A newbie account trying to sell an amazon card that requires you to go first? The sirens must be so loud your neighbors can hear them! $25 value for $8? What a good deal! Except... it's probably not, and just a clear scam. I might understand $20 as the pricetag... but you can get lots of everyday things from Amazon regardless, so I don't quite understand. The $8 would mean that it's probably either a scam or the card was bought with illicit funds. Either way it's not worth the purchase... not to say that higher price = higher quality
Atleast they have this thread to look at and a redtrust to see on their profile from KWH to look at. Cause I was not privileged enough to have these blaring signs to warn me not to touch this user with a 10 foot pole.
They don't need a thread to warn them if the user already looks like a scammer.
Yes I will. Mind your own business before I give you negative feedback
You do know you will get banned after this comment right ?
You're pretty much harrassing me with your 'feedback' thingy haha.
Go ahead and do just that!
November 05, 2016, 10:28:44 AM
So you might as well blame the next person who buys this amazon $25 gift card too for not knowing they are involving themselves with a scammer then!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16779394
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16779394
Yes. I would. A newbie account trying to sell an amazon card that requires you to go first? The sirens must be so loud your neighbors can hear them! $25 value for $8? What a good deal! Except... it's probably not, and just a clear scam. I might understand $20 as the pricetag... but you can get lots of everyday things from Amazon regardless, so I don't quite understand. The $8 would mean that it's probably either a scam or the card was bought with illicit funds. Either way it's not worth the purchase... not to say that higher price = higher quality
Atleast they have this thread to look at and a redtrust to see on their profile from KWH to look at. Cause I was not privileged enough to have these blaring signs to warn me not to touch this user with a 10 foot pole.
They don't need a thread to warn them if the user already looks like a scammer.
November 05, 2016, 07:46:46 AM
Again with putting the blame on me
I did it to quell his insistent begging. $6 for a piece of mind was not too much to pay for that at the time.
I was only tipped off and then put this user on my ignore list when this member saw what was going on and informed me that the one who I gave this small loan to(Atari) was this user. I removed him when I saw the similar negative message as Atari and another of his alts leave to me just days before but has been since removed when I paid the ransom amount of $20 in bitcoin.
I did it to quell his insistent begging. $6 for a piece of mind was not too much to pay for that at the time.
I was only tipped off and then put this user on my ignore list when this member saw what was going on and informed me that the one who I gave this small loan to(Atari) was this user. I removed him when I saw the similar negative message as Atari and another of his alts leave to me just days before but has been since removed when I paid the ransom amount of $20 in bitcoin.
I'm unsure as to why you think paying him off is a good idea. Firstly, there's the ignore button that's always there to "quell his insistent begging".
Whether it's a small amount or not, wasting money by sending it to scammers is not the way to go. Who cares about untrusted feedback? It's not worth sending $20 to someone just because they post libel about you. Ignore and forget. Would you really pay people to remove their negative feedbacks, regardless of their reputation?
That would just be a waste of money.
Even if you can afford it, you should be prudent. And yes, I am blaming you for being scammed. Caveat emptor.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16779394
Atleast they have this thread to look at and a redtrust to see on their profile from KWH to look at. Cause I was not privileged enough to have these blaring signs to warn me not to touch this user with a 10 foot pole.
November 04, 2016, 05:27:32 PM
Again with putting the blame on me
I did it to quell his insistent begging. $6 for a piece of mind was not too much to pay for that at the time.
I was only tipped off and then put this user on my ignore list when this member saw what was going on and informed me that the one who I gave this small loan to(Atari) was this user. I removed him when I saw the similar negative message as Atari and another of his alts leave to me just days before but has been since removed when I paid the ransom amount of $20 in bitcoin.
I did it to quell his insistent begging. $6 for a piece of mind was not too much to pay for that at the time.
I was only tipped off and then put this user on my ignore list when this member saw what was going on and informed me that the one who I gave this small loan to(Atari) was this user. I removed him when I saw the similar negative message as Atari and another of his alts leave to me just days before but has been since removed when I paid the ransom amount of $20 in bitcoin.
I'm unsure as to why you think paying him off is a good idea. Firstly, there's the ignore button that's always there to "quell his insistent begging".
Whether it's a small amount or not, wasting money by sending it to scammers is not the way to go. Who cares about untrusted feedback? It's not worth sending $20 to someone just because they post libel about you. Ignore and forget. Would you really pay people to remove their negative feedbacks, regardless of their reputation?
That would just be a waste of money.
Even if you can afford it, you should be prudent. And yes, I am blaming you for being scammed. Caveat emptor.
November 02, 2016, 08:32:02 PM
A DT member should of put it on there when he was asking and it was known he was Atari and AmexSaleServe which I pointed out in his selling threads but nobody listened and I removed my posts because he said I was giving false accusations on his posts and had the evidence. That being the proof enough to give me negative feedback and use that as the reference link towards my profile's trust page.
It would have been good for them to have put it there to warn people, but remember: caveat emptor - the "victims" should be smart enough to see through the thinly-veiled scam. It doesn't take a genius to see that no collateral and no reputation means a bad deal.
He still is selling and people are still doing deals and giving him the benefit of the doubt against just that one negative that is showing from a trusted member for me atleast (KWH's trust given as of now).
Like I said - if they're stupid enough to fall for it, then they'll learn their lesson and that'll be that. If they don't learn their lesson, then you wouldn't have been able to stop anything anyway - they're just going to continue being swindled and there's no way to prevent that.
I did it to quell his insistent begging. $6 for a piece of mind was not too much to pay for that at the time.
I was only tipped off and then put this user on my ignore list when this member saw what was going on and informed me that the one who I gave this small loan to(Atari) was this user. I removed him when I saw the similar negative message as Atari and another of his alts leave to me just days before but has been since removed when I paid the ransom amount of $20 in bitcoin.
I'll tell him to post here. As far as putting the payment up to verify. Idk how lol
Regards
MB2U
Just to let you know, it has costed me more than just my $5, that is as much I can say regarding this.
Don't worry, I won't mention anything about you. Sorry for your troubles. Yes, there are many scammers, however, there are some that are fairly decent.
Hopefully, things turn around for you and you can make some good trades.
BTW I wouldn't be too scared of that Atari, seems they just got another new name Despised-Icon-https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911971
Take care!
MB2U
I should of taken his advice and given all these facts before hand because it happened the same way as if I have anyways.
Real funny how he says "loan filled" after he gets these payments from me then locks the threads.
Real artist at the con game here and still at work: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blow-out-sale-wts-20-amazon-gift-card-1669059
November 02, 2016, 07:48:31 PM
Lionidas, you really ought to put a reference link in with your negative feedback. Everyone else is referencing this thread and not the one where you sent him money.
Next time hit the ignore button instead of the send button when someone keeps begging for bitcoin. You fell right into a scammer's trap.
He locks his threads once he is found out as you have noticed so that is useless. I have linked this so to let the ones he has scammed have their say to get this done with that he and his alts are scammers that is the reason of it in the first place not towards that sent of money because this is different now not just for megger amount of $6 but for 0.05btc that I last sent to him for ransom on the trust given to me.Next time hit the ignore button instead of the send button when someone keeps begging for bitcoin. You fell right into a scammer's trap.
Once again the ignore button would do nothing because as he has mentioned in the entire pm conversation that I did not include he will create new accounts to just keep posting pms to me and put more negative from those too which has happened already.
There is no reasoning with a psychotic person like this one. Repeating same thing over and over again is the sign of a mentally deranged person that I (we are) am dealing with here.
Then you keep painting them red, easier for you than him.
November 02, 2016, 07:47:05 PM
Lionidas, you really ought to put a reference link in with your negative feedback. Everyone else is referencing this thread and not the one where you sent him money.
Next time hit the ignore button instead of the send button when someone keeps begging for bitcoin. You fell right into a scammer's trap.
He locks his threads once he is found out as you have noticed so that is useless. I have linked this so to let the ones he has scammed have their say to get this done with that he and his alts are scammers that is the reason of it in the first place not towards that sent of money because this is different now not just for megger amount of $6 but for 0.05btc that I last sent to him for ransom on the trust given to me.Next time hit the ignore button instead of the send button when someone keeps begging for bitcoin. You fell right into a scammer's trap.
Once again the ignore button would do nothing because as he has mentioned in the entire pm conversation that I did not include he will create new accounts to just keep posting pms to me and put more negative from those too which has happened already.
There is no reasoning with a psychotic person like this one. Repeating same thing over and over again is the sign of a mentally deranged person that I (we are) am dealing with here.
November 02, 2016, 07:45:12 PM
A DT member should of put it on there when he was asking and it was known he was Atari and AmexSaleServe which I pointed out in his selling threads but nobody listened and I removed my posts because he said I was giving false accusations on his posts and had the evidence. That being the proof enough to give me negative feedback and use that as the reference link towards my profile's trust page.
It would have been good for them to have put it there to warn people, but remember: caveat emptor - the "victims" should be smart enough to see through the thinly-veiled scam. It doesn't take a genius to see that no collateral and no reputation means a bad deal.
He still is selling and people are still doing deals and giving him the benefit of the doubt against just that one negative that is showing from a trusted member for me atleast (KWH's trust given as of now).
Like I said - if they're stupid enough to fall for it, then they'll learn their lesson and that'll be that. If they don't learn their lesson, then you wouldn't have been able to stop anything anyway - they're just going to continue being swindled and there's no way to prevent that.
November 02, 2016, 07:05:39 PM
Lionidas, you really ought to put a reference link in with your negative feedback. Everyone else is referencing this thread and not the one where you sent him money.
Next time hit the ignore button instead of the send button when someone keeps begging for bitcoin. You fell right into a scammer's trap.
Next time hit the ignore button instead of the send button when someone keeps begging for bitcoin. You fell right into a scammer's trap.
November 02, 2016, 06:55:04 PM
-snip-
-snip-He still is selling and people are still doing deals and giving him the benefit of the doubt against just that one negative that is showing from a trusted member for me atleast (KWH's trust given as of now).
November 02, 2016, 06:52:38 PM
I don't know anybody who would send money to someone for a poker tournament who hasn't even brought up any statistics, has 0 reputation, and is looking for a $10 buy-in.
Keep in mind, this is a SINGLE buy-in and is "in two hours". With such little to back up and the fact that it's only within 2 hours, nobody's going to be stupid enough to stake them.
How would a good poker player not have $10? Case in point: he's not a good poker player, and he's just scamming.
Q: Does the negative trust affect you at all?
A: No.
Especially considering the fact that they're from negative-trust members all from the same day... nobody would take that seriously.
What an idiot, though - leaving his phone number public. Looks like the area code originates from North Carolina.
Thats the thing. Keep in mind, this is a SINGLE buy-in and is "in two hours". With such little to back up and the fact that it's only within 2 hours, nobody's going to be stupid enough to stake them.
How would a good poker player not have $10? Case in point: he's not a good poker player, and he's just scamming.
Q: Does the negative trust affect you at all?
A: No.
Especially considering the fact that they're from negative-trust members all from the same day... nobody would take that seriously.
What an idiot, though - leaving his phone number public. Looks like the area code originates from North Carolina.
Before I mentioned all this he did not have any negative that showed up until KWH put his on there.
A DT member should of put it on there when he was asking and it was known he was Atari and AmexSaleServe which I pointed out in his selling threads but nobody listened and I removed my posts because he said I was giving false accusations on his posts and had the evidence. That being the proof enough to give me negative feedback and use that as the reference link towards my profile's trust page.
He still is selling and people are still doing deals and giving him the benefit of the doubt against just that one negative that is showing from a trusted member for me atleast (KWH's trust given as of now).
November 02, 2016, 05:43:01 PM
I don't know anybody who would send money to someone for a poker tournament who hasn't even brought up any statistics, has 0 reputation, and is looking for a $10 buy-in.
Keep in mind, this is a SINGLE buy-in and is "in two hours". With such little to back up and the fact that it's only within 2 hours, nobody's going to be stupid enough to stake them.
How would a good poker player not have $10? Case in point: he's not a good poker player, and he's just scamming.
Q: Does the negative trust affect you at all?
A: No.
Especially considering the fact that they're from negative-trust members all from the same day... nobody would take that seriously.
What an idiot, though - leaving his phone number public. Looks like the area code originates from North Carolina.
Keep in mind, this is a SINGLE buy-in and is "in two hours". With such little to back up and the fact that it's only within 2 hours, nobody's going to be stupid enough to stake them.
How would a good poker player not have $10? Case in point: he's not a good poker player, and he's just scamming.
Q: Does the negative trust affect you at all?
A: No.
Especially considering the fact that they're from negative-trust members all from the same day... nobody would take that seriously.
What an idiot, though - leaving his phone number public. Looks like the area code originates from North Carolina.
November 02, 2016, 05:06:02 PM
-breaking the quoteladder-
Well, to be blunt, most people would be smart enough not to loan bitcoins out to newbies like that without collateral (usually people who can afford to loan are smart with their money). And in the unlikely event that the guy tries to scam by "offering collateral" then the loaner should be smart enough to escrow it.
The fact that the person continues to use the hyphens in the name is kind of stupid - don't they think that they're going to be found out almost immediately?
Look. At the end of the day, every time a newbie asks for a loan, there's going to be about 5-6 spam replies about "no collateral" or "you're a newbie lol" and that should ward off most people - along with the fact that a negative will probably be applied within 24 hours.
If someone's still going to loan regardless of that fact, then whatever you do cannot prevent them from doing so - they'll learn their lesson in due time.
But he is asking for more than that. That is the problem here!:Why would I worry about the 0.1btc that he threatened me to pay to him as you can clearly see from the pm log near the end of this cluster fu(ks attempts to get more funds from me. In total I paid pretty close to 0.08btc which I don't find as an extreme amount to lose if it saves someone else from getting taken to the cleaners to this desperate excuse of a person like I had.
Well, to be blunt, most people would be smart enough not to loan bitcoins out to newbies like that without collateral (usually people who can afford to loan are smart with their money). And in the unlikely event that the guy tries to scam by "offering collateral" then the loaner should be smart enough to escrow it.
The fact that the person continues to use the hyphens in the name is kind of stupid - don't they think that they're going to be found out almost immediately?
Look. At the end of the day, every time a newbie asks for a loan, there's going to be about 5-6 spam replies about "no collateral" or "you're a newbie lol" and that should ward off most people - along with the fact that a negative will probably be applied within 24 hours.
If someone's still going to loan regardless of that fact, then whatever you do cannot prevent them from doing so - they'll learn their lesson in due time.
$20 to participate in a poker tournament. Has already lost the 0.08btc that I paid out to him in a few days.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16757772
And this thread shows the same cell phone number and possibly a paxful account to trace this moron:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16252109
I've recently found myself buying, reselling, investing, spending bitcoins in my everyday life. I am now awaiting on withdraws which take 7-10 days in my business and I'm needing coins in the mean time. I'm only looking for 0.165 and willing to repay 60% within 10 days maximum. I don't have proper collateral which has put me in a hard place to actually get a loan. I'm willing to provide any information requested and knowing this isn't proper collateral but I'm willing to stake my Paxful account which has great buyer feedback with a trade history of a total of 1,585$ .. If anyone out there is willing to work with me please text or reply back here
704-726-7529
704-726-7529
So as you can see this will never stop neither will the negative rep that he continues to give to my trust profile. Rapist now? He can not even spell it properly so that tells you of his literacy level.
November 02, 2016, 04:57:55 PM
-breaking the quoteladder-
Well, to be blunt, most people would be smart enough not to loan bitcoins out to newbies like that without collateral (usually people who can afford to loan are smart with their money). And in the unlikely event that the guy tries to scam by "offering collateral" then the loaner should be smart enough to escrow it.
The fact that the person continues to use the hyphens in the name is kind of stupid - don't they think that they're going to be found out almost immediately?
Look. At the end of the day, every time a newbie asks for a loan, there's going to be about 5-6 spam replies about "no collateral" or "you're a newbie lol" and that should ward off most people - along with the fact that a negative will probably be applied within 24 hours.
If someone's still going to loan regardless of that fact, then whatever you do cannot prevent them from doing so - they'll learn their lesson in due time.
Why would I worry about the 0.1btc that he threatened me to pay to him as you can clearly see from the pm log near the end of this cluster fu(ks attempts to get more funds from me. In total I paid pretty close to 0.08btc which I don't find as an extreme amount to lose if it saves someone else from getting taken to the cleaners to this desperate excuse of a person like I had.
Well, to be blunt, most people would be smart enough not to loan bitcoins out to newbies like that without collateral (usually people who can afford to loan are smart with their money). And in the unlikely event that the guy tries to scam by "offering collateral" then the loaner should be smart enough to escrow it.
The fact that the person continues to use the hyphens in the name is kind of stupid - don't they think that they're going to be found out almost immediately?
Look. At the end of the day, every time a newbie asks for a loan, there's going to be about 5-6 spam replies about "no collateral" or "you're a newbie lol" and that should ward off most people - along with the fact that a negative will probably be applied within 24 hours.
If someone's still going to loan regardless of that fact, then whatever you do cannot prevent them from doing so - they'll learn their lesson in due time.
November 02, 2016, 04:51:28 PM
Report his PM's and block. If he posts too much feedback, ask Theymos to remove them. He may or may not.
He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.
He does not show as bright red to me.He is Untrusted and bright red, his feedback means nothing.
I believe that only happens when a DT member (level 1 or 2) gives him negative trust.
This would warn others not to fall for these conniving ways that he strives for requesting in so many threads (using multiple accounts as you have witnessed and have been a part of with that one from Amexsaleserve).
Look again.
Will do the first part as you say and see what comes out of it if anything.
Thanks to you KWH.
YW. You now know why many will NOT work with Newbies. Keep in mind, many are not new just new accounts created to scam as much as possible.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/looking-for-a-00055-loan-1666470
I don't know why more DT aren't tagging this filth so to stop this nonsense.
Admins should step in because nobody else is really taking anything he is doing here seriously.
He has taken $300 possibly in false trades and defaulted loans from everybody in the forum thus far in the past two weeks(started with me on Oct 23th) just from these 4 alt accounts.
I am not paying 0.1btc to anyone for removal of a trust rating received from a scammer. Nor why should I?
Then don't worry about the 0.1 btc.
He may have scammed funds but that's it. I think most people would deny a loan request or a trade from a newbie like that who has no reputation and a high likelihood of being a scammer. And if they do accept it like you did, then they learn a valuable lesson - one that's hopefully worth the amount they lost.
In total I paid pretty close to 0.08btc which I don't find as an extreme amount to lose if it saves someone else from getting taken to the cleaners to this desperate excuse of a person like I had.
I did warn a hero member from losing alittle btc at first and likely alot more later on from his attempts of extortion by his corrupt mind's logic he has put in the lending and now the goods and services section. So saving one person from this miserable leech was well worth the amount that I have lost to this pathetic excuse for a human being.
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