Topic: Devcoin - page 10. (Read 412930 times)

1. Companies already have it. In the ingredient section, and mostly on the back or front of the product.

2. Even though I don't agree with how you flame people, or the ways you do most things, I'd be willing to donate a few DevCoins. Sorry for your loss, bro. (This seems really legit, actually.)

If it isn't working now, why should I believe it can work 5 years from now when there will be better alternatives for sure? This is the Devcoin moment where it either finds a way to get everyone working for it, or next year the infrastructure to work for Bitcoin will be set up and no one will care about Devcoin.

Ethicoin has a chance to fill the void and possibly fill the niche so I'm waiting to see what they do and Litecoin isn't exactly Bitcoin so they have a couple years and then they too will be in the same position of Devcoin. Bitcoin is about to go mainstream in 2014 and if Devcoin isn't being used by all of us by that time then I would say it may be too late.

And when I say used by all of us, I mean anyone who wants a job on this forum should be able to find a job which pays in a significant amount of Devcoin if they are willing to do the job. I know people will say Devcoin was set up to pay developers, but most people on this forum are developers and how many of us are paid in Devcoin right now?

Bounties are not a very good way to do things. Subscription models like what Coinbase is offering could kill Devcoin once enough podcasters and bloggers switch over. Writers just starting out will use Devcoin but once they become successful they'll sell their works for Bitcoin. Journalists may have to go with a Bitcoin subscription model because Devcoin just wont pay them enough in $. I can't believe I'm the only one who can see this coming.

The deflationary model is right. You don't agree for philosophical reasons but to anyone who owns Bitcoins which are worth $100 each, and who owns ASICminer shares worth 2.5 BTC each, or who is mining with an ASIC right now, why would these people have a problem with the 21 million Bitcoin limit?

How is a hackathon any different from a writeathon or a poetry contest? Just because a lot of programmers produce a lot of code it does not mean that code will be worth any money. A lot of very valuable free software doesn't make any money for the programmers writing it. Bitcoin is really a change in the model and the reason I support the deflationary model of Bitcoin is because early adopters (beta testers) and the original programmers are getting rich now. To me that is how it's supposed to work when you invent something of value for the world.

Imagine if Satoshi were paid in Devcoins instead. If Satoshi had millions of Devcoins, or even billions, it just would not work because there is no reason to mine Devcoins when 90% of profits go to the developers. Ethicoin has the advantage here in that it's fairly distributed 50/50 which to me makes a lot of sense.
This is true, but it does not change the fact that it's easier for people to get paid writing for Devcoin because the bounty system isnt automated while Devtome is.


And I'm saying it wont substatially go up. I know you have the masters degree in mathematics but lets see who is right. Our differences are philosophical and not based on abstract calculations. The statistics are what they are, the numbers are what they are, but I interpret them to mean something different. Let's find out who is right and if I'm wrong then I will eat my words but if you are wrong then perhaps you should consider a different model and consider my suggestion of a hard fork.


If it's about paying as many workers as possible are you saying that people who produce code are somehow more valuable than people who write poems and books? I'm saying they are relatively the same because the nature of the work is relatively the same. This is why the pay should be relatively the same.

But you're under the impression that somehow if we turn all the writers into programmers that this will make any difference? It's still just people getting paid for language arts, it's not going to make any real difference. Devcoin isn't going to become more valuable just because some guys writing python and visual basic are making apps for Devcoins instead of a bunch of guys writing novels and poems. My argument is that Fin Shaggy has done more to popularize Devcoin than anyone else and he did it with his words, not writing code.

I think perhaps the problem with Devcoin is that it can only support a finite amount of writers and programmers at a time. That isn't how a market is supposed to work. When more people are willing to work, the pie isn't supposed to shrink. When productivity and quality increases the profits aren't supposed to shrink. That is what I see happening with Devtome. Devtome is more popular than ever, has higher quality works being produced than ever, yet the pay for each worker is going down?

This provides no further incentive for workers to improve quality, or produce better work. The same will apply to programmers, eventually the pay ceiling for programmers will be reached just as it is for writers and then no amount of innovation, hard work, or quality will transcend that ceiling.

That is the problem with Devcoin in the immediate future. Unless quality and innovation is rewarded then it's all going to fail. And no one said anything about communism, but the purpose of Devcoin and of an economy in general is to allow people to trade and in this case people want to trade writing because Devcoin currently supports only writing.

Bounties are going to be very limited. So basically you're saying Devcoin is always going to be a very small market which can't really grow too large or it stops working. That is why I say it's broken from the start.

My brother died this past week, and we are starting a foundation. We want to do a few things.

1. Aware people that allergies are way more serious than they seem to be (packages need to be labeled like cigarettes, ex: "This product can kill you or your child if ingested", and possibly a big red "P" on any peanut product bag.

2. Do some charitable things in his name, such as clean highways, give scholarships, make baseballs (he was 11 and it was his favorite sport), make tributes (Mason Town, Songs, etc) and other nice things.

I would like to make donations possible in Devcoin, and I would like to get the support of the Devcoin community in starting this project. Not through donations (unless you have some extra DVC, a wallet will be created for this purpose over the next few weeks) but through sharing the word, and maybe posting on a thread when I make one later to this same effect.

Thank you for any support, I will post more information here.

I don't know. I decided to give it a visit and see. 

DEVCOIN spyware imho stay farrr away bad juju

Owsley,

For YOU, Devcoin and the Devtome are the biggest scams since Ponzi himself.  So you should ABSOLUTELY stay away from them (and this thread).

The REST of us will make the decision to ignore your posts.  Does the "Report to moderator" button do anything magic?

DEVCOIN - > so we can watch and track you lmao

The requirement is for a full email system.

IMHO I'D BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT USING THE WORD TRUSTED AND DEVCOIN IN THE SAME SENTANCE!

;-) i'm just sayinggggg

What about business shares? I can set my business up to receive devcoin.

And who's to say unthinkigbit doesn't have a large majority stake.
= nobrainer!

Yup.


Nothing.

Is the coinzen domain for a Devcoin forum with email still reserved? What would the bounty be if it were only a forum with no SMTP mail system?


Are the business shares still up?

Based on my limited understanding there are multiple "trusted nodes" that are run by different people. For a hard fork to happen, pool owners have to update, people have to update their clients and the nodes (I think?) have to update.

I think this helps put in a bit of checks-and-balances.

Shoo fly.

Thank you.

All very true. And I just thought about something, he does have control of the code correct? I'm not exactly sure what all that entails. I'm really not a techy person, just happen to be on a computer.

begging? rotflmfao >> NO i was just pointing out the fact it don't work and it's not an open offer to anyone only who the DEVSCAMERS pick ...scrrrr

I would just ignore him like everybody else Vlad. There's no need to block an IP because devtome pages can be instantly restored to previous versions so it would only take one edit to spot and restore, making the idea pointless, particularly with growing numbers of writers to highlight any changes. If you want to discuss it more send me a pm so we don't have to litter the thread with the subject of garbage. Cheers

Obviously.  

That's why just an hour ago you were begging for access to devtome so you can earn devcoins and only after you were denied you flipped your virtual lid.


EDIT:

      Weisoq, I hope there's some protection for writers from guys like this.  I know I have access to everyone's articles, I can alter them in any way and with thousands of these articles who would find out?  With a quick cut and paste job one can render others articles pretty much into incomprehensible trash.  

This is a serious security issue.


EDIT 2: 

Thanks weisoq.  Let's end this whole mess.  I'm putting the guy on ignore now.

It's just that unless my word count is off I don't regularly go back to check my articles for sabotage.  It would be easy to alter many articles with few people picking up on it.  Thanks for the feedback.