Topic: Devcoin - page 139. (Read 412952 times)

The round 15 devtome word earnings are pasted below and at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_bounty_15.csv

121Pb2BBrU7C61vBdWCKVuFFmaEZr6xFAX-Knotwork,2-Word Count(http://devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Knotwork&action=edit)
17vec4jQGCzMEsTnivizHPaowE715tu2CB-Unthinkingbit,14-Word Count(http://devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Unthinkingbit&action=edit)

They are generated by tomecount.py:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/tomecount.py

The word counts for each writer are at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/tomecount.csv

The word earnings were generated on 2012-09-08, and the total word counts follow below.

Collated Word Count: 53,721
Collated Weighted Word Count: 16,116
Images: 8
Original Word Count: 93,035
Total Word Count: 146,756
Total Weighted Word Count: 109,231

From statistics:
http://devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Statistics

Views total: 52,596
Content pages: 112

Hi Slushpuppy,

If you have music online, please post a link to it.

You can get devcoins for lyrics by posting them on devtome:
http://devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Earn_Devcoins_by_Writing

I have not seen any good way of advertising on pure audio files. There are; however, many music videos on youtube, and those could earn ad money. There is very little open source music on youtube, the only creative commons music video I could find after searching for a while is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYzblWY5538

A devtome youtube account could be created, and embedded open source music videos would be given devcoins. Full motion video would not be required, a simple picture would suffice. If there is a better way of making some money from music, that would be used instead; youtube is simply a way I've seen that works. Text is almost automatically of use to someone, however music must have an appeal for people to listen to it, so music videos would have to pass some kind of test of popularity or quality to be given devcoins.

Because music requires more bandwidth than text, and it is more complicated to judge, music does not get devcoins yet. It's a long term goal, if and when there's more interest for open source music, then bounties will be posted to set up some kind of music library and payout system.

I think songs qualify probably, just as novels would. If you write a score, with words to go with, that really is source code isn't it? The shenanigans I refer to in my previous post are more to do with the people who take your score and words, and run voice synthesisers and virtual instruments to produce a "recording" of your song as performed by their virtual singers and instruments, and then try to pass off that "recording" as open source without providing the code - the virtual singers and instruments and your score and words - that "recording" was compiled from...

-MarkM-

Ahhh I think I understand devcoin a bit better now. I won't get devcoin for writing a song but if I made like a website where musicians could collabarate on open source music (like github with an in browser DAW?)  that would be the 'foundation' of a devcoin project right?

This could be interesting, as in my experience grpahical art and music both have historically had real problems with being "open source".

In software where we say open source we mean that all of the raw stuff that gets collated/compiled together to form the final piece (executable) is the source code.

But in my experience artists go to some pretty extreme lengths to hold back what seems logically to be the "source code" for their products.

For example just as a programmer can combine if, then, else, plus. minus, and other pieces/components to make a program, an artist can combine violin sounds, piano sounds, oboe sounds, or even run code that produces such sounds, and compile all of these components into an executable music file.

Similarly a graphic artists often takes a whole bunch of layers and layers them, or even takes a bunch of three dimensional models and generates a two dimensional image from a particular angle.

But somehow we are often expected to believe that only the final image, not all the models / layers compiled together to create it, or only the final music files, not all the samples or synthesis algorithms composed/collated/compiled together to make it, are the "source code" for their final piece?

So I guess my first question would be what exactly are you proposing to claim to be the "source code" of your music that makes it "open source" music?

Will we get source code for the instruments, and a score that those instruments will play? Or what?

-MarkM-

How do I get devcoins for writing music?

Looks like the DVB are selling pretty well on cryptostocks.com. Hope it keeps going good for you guys.

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Improved cooling would help miners, which in turn helps the network. I suggest a bounty of 4 generation shares for the first successful open source cooler, and 2 for the second.

Are there any objections?

Edit: Later I implied that the mining cooler bounty was actually 4, then 3, then 2, then 1:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1302913

So the bounty series is now 4, then 3, then 2, then 1. Two awards have been made so the current award is 2 shares.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1302913

The Devcoin Bounty Project is funding the Qcool prototype phase:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1155285

http://www.glari.ch:3000/projects/qcool


The watercooling element is the next step to high end FPGA usage.

Even this small amounts of electricity heats up the board and it needs to be cooled. Watercooling for FPGA is the next step towards stabilizing the performance and lifetime of the hardware. Thats why DVB funds the watercooling adapter development for FPGA Boards. This elements will be tested as a part of the Glari Mining Project GMP  and goes comercial after by a third party.

Looking into adding devcoin to my site and some other programs so we can accept it as a payment method with btc and ltc.

A really rough estimate to to develop a new class of printer with another deposition method or size would be on the order of 100,000 USD. This is only the money for a prototype good enough to start a business, the business would then have to sell a lot of printers, putting some profit back into research, to finally make a reliable, fast printer of that class. To make a house you would need a printer for cement, metal, ceramic, and you'd need big printers, cutters and microprinters, overall, you'd need at least 10 new classes of machine tools, for a total of 1,000,000$.

Printers are one of many things that devcoin would fund, assuming that printer development would be 10% of the total development funding, the total development funding would be 1,000,000$ / 10% = 10,000,000$. Devcoin is now a beneficial corporation, so development of stuff which does not make money for devcoin can only be on the order of 10% in the long term, so the total market capitalization required would be 10,000,000$ / 10% = 100,000,000$.

Devcoin currently has a market capitalization of about 40,000$, so the capitalization would have to increase by a factor of about 100,000,000$ / 40,000$ = 2,500. The market capitalization will naturally increase because of coin generation, in 70 months (about six years) there will be roughly five times as many coins, so the value would have to increase by 2,500 / 5 = 500 times. Assuming an equal increase in value of devcoin versus bitcoin, and bitcoin versus the USD, that would be about a 22 fold increase, so devcoin would be at about 0.000031 BTC, and bitcoins would be at about 220$, working out to a devcoin worth of about 0.007$ (0.7 cents). Note, I'm not predicting that kind of growth for devcoin or bitcoin, it is just a calculation of what would be required to fully fund printer development. Also, funding printer development is a long term goal, possible only if devcoin value rises a lot.

A single 100,000,000$ investment is not expected. However, what can be done is to grow the devcoin ecosystem in every way possible. Every new use, exchange, pool, business, article, etc.. increases the value of devcoin, which can then fund more projects, which then increases the value of devcoin and so on.

If anyone wants to fund devcoin, investments are appreciated, but devcoin is very volatile, and you should only invest in it what you can afford to lose. If it goes up, you win, and open source developers get a lot, if it goes down, you lose, but at least the developers got something.

Another way to help devcoin is to add devcoin as a payment option for your business. Devcoin market capitalization is much smaller than bitcoin capitalization, so you would only get a few devcoin purchases, but there is still a remaining bounty for devcoin businesses, so hopefully it would still be worth your time. Otherwise you could help out and earn devcoins by writing articles:
http://devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Earn_Devcoins_by_Writing

If anyone would like to write a wiki article, but is not sure of the formatting or whatever; send me a rough draft and I would then copy edit and format it for devtome.

If anyone wants to help by developing, the only thing needed for the devcoin application at this time is a windows executable:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1141147

Otherwise, developers can help and get a devcoin generation share by working on the Open Transactions project:
http://devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Open_Transactions

Who is joking, if its feasible I would love to build a house, my family has some land in a neighboring town that we have always been too broke to develop. If all I needed was to have a simple machine strategically pour concrete I think I would be able to afford it.

I would say you pose the wrong question. Correctly it should be in my oppinion: What am i willing to do, to empower myself to build a house with a concrete printer. The Devcoin Bounty Security is not about creating products, but about developing technology to be able to produce certain products. So you would have to ask someone two levels after the development process about pricing.

I imagine this sounds funny but it isnt a joke at all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfbhdZKPHro
http://www.buildfreeform.com/

So how much has to be invested before you will build me a house with the concrete printer. Or boobie prize, send me a new 3d printer ( I just want the self duplicated one)

Maybe I need to read more, but why is this in the Devcoin forum?

Is this a joke (pee pee coins?!?!?!?) haha

just wanted to draw your attention to a project i started for PPCoins wallet for windows here... http://ppcointalk.org/index.php?q=node/12
earky days   so far and i scratching the surface at the moment.. but some funtionality so far please post any issues in the www.ppcointalk.org forum ty

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Yep, we got a big order thats going out today too its really cool the support the community gives for any weird project we can come up with.

Wow, thanks for the buy!

I hope DVB - Devcoin Bounty:
https://cryptostocks.com/securities/14

works out. I just started buying some shares a few hours ago.

By the way, best of luck on your new bitcoin business; Homemade Tortillas For Bitcoins - Los Pollos Hermanos (No Blue):
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/homemade-tortillas-for-bitcoins-los-pollos-hermanos-no-blue-104266

Ahh, so you're the one I got some NMC from

-- Smoov

Just heads up, we are trying to help support your noble cause, bought up a couple million devcoins and put them into the shares on cryptostocks hope it helps the project