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April 28, 2013, 10:29:57 PM
Would it be possible to have a bounty for someone to update electrum to work with DVC as well?  Think it would be a good project to support those who want to run a DVC client but don't want the weight of yet another block chain to download.

Bounties for server and client (solo coin and merged coin variants) might be needed/appreciated as well.

For the second portion I think I remember a bounty for it already with the multi wallet whether it be a client or web wallet I dont think mattered. Unthinkingbit, what is the waiting bounty on the multiple currency wallet? And do we have one for the electrum wallet port to dvc or multi coins?
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April 28, 2013, 10:15:51 PM
Would it be possible to have a bounty for someone to update electrum to work with DVC as well?  Think it would be a good project to support those who want to run a DVC client but don't want the weight of yet another block chain to download.

Bounties for server and client (solo coin and merged coin variants) might be needed/appreciated as well.
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April 28, 2013, 09:40:51 PM

There's a few things going on - hence trying to clear up things.

1) Nodes
What:
Long standing dvc nodes - ideally placed on fast connections & configured with a large number of connections.

Why:
To allow new & existing clients to bootstrap quickly.  To allow a complete fall-back when other systems aren't functioning.

How:
Coded dns names in the code - that allow cname & a lookups.

2) Locators - client discovery
What:
Review the current infrastructure to ensure it's suitable for scalable growth.  
IRC, DDNS (DNS Seeding), Client cache

Why:
It's good to review where you are and where you're going.
DNS Seeding should be reviewed and checked to see if the current setup is optimal.  DNS Seed names (DNS entries) should be checked & updated - are we using the most appropriate record types, what's the change control process.  As you mention - does it fallback properly should those DNS Seeds be taken out? Can geoDNS be leveraged to help users download the blockchain from their closest neighbours.  Tech has moved on - DNS has improved a lot - with ipv6 more prevalent now - srv & locator records can be used and you have more granular control over the how & what.
geoDNS is now pretty affordable and no longer limited to the big-boys - it can make a huge difference to the blockchain startup/catchup time for end-users.
The existing locators aren't setup to gather & supply metrics - each DNS query, irc join is a statistic that's useful in gauging adoption, growth & measuring scale.

How:
Test, metrics, target goals for how this works.

3) DNS
What:
Using existing DNS names to make config & setup easier & simpler for end users.  

Why:
Long term success in pretty much all things comes down to making something accessible to end users.

How:
Update the way a handful of (1) are recorded in DNS, update the documentation for users telling them they can addnode=dvc.devcoin.me and you'll be up & running in no time.
Using something like dvc.devcoin.me is way easier than 15 addnode=abc.def.ijk.lmn entries when a user is complaining that its taken 20h for their blockchain to be downloaded.


I'm overly cautious when it comes to DDNS because there's risk - it's easy to pollute and as it's a centralised public resource it's an address book of hosts.

I would like to suggest a bounty for bringing the devcoin client current to be capable of using the seed nodes. Of all the alt coins posted to an exchange it looks like dvc is the furthers behind on the clients. To keep the currency relevant we need to plan ahead, this looks to be a necessary step to continue the development of the currency.

Over the past 10 years css and xhtml have become more prominent, this is a similar case where the standard method is changing and I would not want the clients to get so far behind that they would cause new users of dvc to give up in frustration. Good design will facilitate the new & update speed of users with regard to the blockchain, help tx propagation across the network, scale with as the number of users grows and provide a resilient mechanism for clients locating other clients.

I would also like to see the receiver list integrated in some manner. One idea would be:

Lookup this months distribution address in the blockchain (via the dvc client) - pull up the first tx - grab the addresses the payment was sent to - distribute the y shares between these addresses. Manual payments that are done at the moment (non-generating shares) are the remainder of y. Send that amount to the this months originating address. This would all be automatically handled by the dvc client at the mining pool. Pools wouldn't have to change anything.

Not sure if this has had a bounty requested yet, but this would address more than half of the new devcoin users that have trouble getting the client working. They are used to bitcoin and other clients, you install and no files needing downloaded and installed in specific directories.

You can post it to git, but the bounty was based upon it being loaded on devtome.com, so just create a new page for it no biggie.

Is this what you had in mind? http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=dvcticker
 Smiley

Exactly, and awesome, you got the python so thats an additional language.
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April 28, 2013, 09:33:18 PM
You can post it to git, but the bounty was based upon it being loaded on devtome.com, so just create a new page for it no biggie.

Is this what you had in mind? http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=dvcticker
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April 28, 2013, 09:15:14 PM
Here's my version of the Devcoin Ticker app. Currently supports every currency on Vircurex. Will add more exchanges shortly.

http://dvcticker.appspot.com/

Example image:

I was going to just post the source code to Github. Should I also post it to devtome?
I like the added currency pic at the beginning.

You can post it to git, but the bounty was based upon it being loaded on devtome.com, so just create a new page for it no biggie.
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April 28, 2013, 09:12:25 PM
Here's my version of the Devcoin Ticker app. Currently supports every currency on Vircurex. Will add more exchanges shortly.

http://dvcticker.appspot.com/

Example image:

I was going to just post the source code to Github. Should I also post it to devtome?

Nice Smiley
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April 28, 2013, 09:10:02 PM
Here's my version of the Devcoin Ticker app. Currently supports every currency on Vircurex. Will add more exchanges shortly.

http://dvcticker.appspot.com/

Example image:

I was going to just post the source code to Github. Should I also post it to devtome?
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April 28, 2013, 08:55:43 PM
If you want to sell websites, designs, or real items in exchange for Devcoins, POST IT HERE!!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189471.new#new

I added a post with a list of shit I'm selling.
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April 28, 2013, 07:18:27 PM
I could host DevCoin.org and even put up a nice website on the domain too.

How much is the bounty exactly?

I was going to make an unofficial DevCoin website anyway - but working on the .org would be much better Smiley

Up a few posts back. If your goin to go for it, try and make it eyecatching we want the devcoin domain to stand out as authoritative.

1. Perhaps a group effort to writeup the explanation of the dvc project and summary of the goals we are pursuing.
2. A summary of what devcoin also is, similar to the bitcoin site and short video explanation (I dont know if anyone has experience with this, but I can read a script and sound decent on recording.)



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April 28, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
I could host DevCoin.org and even put up a nice website on the domain too.

How much is the bounty exactly?

I was going to make an unofficial DevCoin website anyway - but working on the .org would be much better Smiley
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April 28, 2013, 02:26:37 PM
I don't hold the domain the devtome is running on, I hold a bunch of other domains that point to it or try to point to it. I say I hold them because they were bought for the project, they are not my personal property.

I have two dedicated servers that are my own (as opposed to the project's; I don't mean they are in my home they are third party hosted dedicated servers thus not secure, not good for hosting wallets and such. They have taken a while to get up and running as basically I got a good deal on evidently some old server hardware and we ran into some memory, disk and even ethernet-cable problems but hopefully now they should be pretty stable. I also have a plain old just-webhosting (php+mysql type webhosting) account elsewhere which can hold some small number of domains, an old spare devtome wiki is on that for example.

They have unlimited bandwidth so I am running all the merged mined coins on one of them with a p2pool instance to do the merging, and all the coins get to have "unlimited" connections. (Ports open; not sure if there is some default limit to number of connections that allows.)

So I now do have resources that could be used for hosting and such. I had not yet been thinking in terms of running a normal webserver such as Apache or whatever so don't have one fired up yet; I had been rather looking at things that act like a webserver themselves, java stuff such as Cyclos for example.

Something that would be really useful would be software that can read p2pool's data -r the bitcoin blockchain itself - and be used to pay people extra based on how many bitcoins a specific site's instance of p2pool paid them or how much actually productive mining they did on a specific site's instance of p2pool.

Basically p2pool cannot pay out more than 100% of the bitcoins it mines, so although it enables all the merged mined coins to be merged mines it does not seem to track the merged mining at all so there is not easy way to pay people more for mining on my Massively Merged Mining instance of p2pool than just their share of all the bitcoin that it mines. (So basically people can use it as a zero-fee pool but do not get any extra bonus for the fact that by using my p2pool they are providing hashing power for DeVCoin, GRouPcoin, IXCoin, I0Coin, CoiLedCoin and GeistGeld as well as for bitcoin.

The p2pool instance is at 198.154.60.183 on port 10332

You simply use a bitcoin address as username, password doesn't matter as its not used; and it pays you directly from the coinbase of the blocks the p2pool network finds. YOu can also point a browser at that port and it has stats you can see with pretty charts and such.

But it would be really handy to be able to run something monthly that I could for example tell an amount of devcoins to and have it divide out those devcoins to everyone based on how much mining they did. Since devcoin addresses are identical to bitcoin addresses and the users use bitcoin addresses instead of usernames it already has their addresses it could send devcoins to.

-MarkM-

EDIT: Note that this means 198.154.60.183 is usable as an -addnode for any of those merged-mine-able coins and for bitcoin. Hopefully it will be 24/7 stable now the initial settling in of the hardware seems to be completed.

Please do add it as an -addnode to devcoin because right now it itself cannot find any connections! Smiley

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April 28, 2013, 01:59:35 PM
I would suggest separating the two domains. Google tends to penalize sites with forwarded or framed domains. Also, the .org would be an authoritative domain and help with giving devcoin a better search presence. Thoughts?

I concur.   You can be liberal with your links from the .org to devcoin as well which will drive traffic anyway, plus build devtome's link count a bit.


Thanks for the advice. The two domains will be separate, with many links from devcoin.org to devtome.

I would suggest a bounty for the site design, something appealing to the eye and hopefully attract more developers. I think by the time the site is ready, either a template or page or whatever.

How about starting with 6, then 3. Every month that it is not done it would increase by 2 and 1.

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The vote on the official devcoin logo should be complete to ensure it is applied to the devcoin.org page as a staple to be recognized.

I don't know when we'll get fifteen logos so we can have a vote. So the site designer can pick a logo, when we vote for the official logo they would switch to the winner.

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And the normal share for maintenance and hosting the site. The site should be hosted

I suggest 1/5 of a share for maintenance, because it's a static site. Once devtome gets advertising revenue, 10% will go to hosting. I suggest that whoever hosts devcoin.org get half the amount per page view (because it would be a static site and devtome is a dynamic site) from advertising.


Sounds reasonable to me. I think markm has the domain now. I suggest he maintains control of the domain. We can just have him update the dns as needed
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April 28, 2013, 01:53:17 PM
Devcoin value is going up

 Smiley go DVC
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April 28, 2013, 01:44:16 PM
I would suggest separating the two domains. Google tends to penalize sites with forwarded or framed domains. Also, the .org would be an authoritative domain and help with giving devcoin a better search presence. Thoughts?

I concur.   You can be liberal with your links from the .org to devcoin as well which will drive traffic anyway, plus build devtome's link count a bit.


Thanks for the advice. The two domains will be separate, with many links from devcoin.org to devtome.

I would suggest a bounty for the site design, something appealing to the eye and hopefully attract more developers. I think by the time the site is ready, either a template or page or whatever.

How about starting with 6, then 3. Every month that it is not done it would increase by 2 and 1.

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The vote on the official devcoin logo should be complete to ensure it is applied to the devcoin.org page as a staple to be recognized.

I don't know when we'll get fifteen logos so we can have a vote. So the site designer can pick a logo, when we vote for the official logo they would switch to the winner.

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And the normal share for maintenance and hosting the site. The site should be hosted

I suggest 1/5 of a share for maintenance, because it's a static site. Once devtome gets advertising revenue, 10% will go to hosting. I suggest that whoever hosts devcoin.org get half the amount per page view (because it would be a static site and devtome is a dynamic site) from advertising.

Edit: Devcoin.org should have non intrusive (no animation) advertising from devcoin businesses. Once there are twenty devcoin businesses, the advertising revenue from devtome would be stopped, and devcoin.org would have to rely on its own advertising.
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April 28, 2013, 06:30:04 AM
I would suggest a bounty for the site design, something appealing to the eye and hopefully attract more developers. I think by the time the site is ready, either a template or page or whatever. The vote on the official devcoin logo should be complete to ensure it is applied to the devcoin.org page as a staple to be recognized. And the normal share for maintenance and hosting the site. The site should be hosted
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April 28, 2013, 05:43:30 AM
I would suggest separating the two domains. Google tends to penalize sites with forwarded or framed domains. Also, the .org would be an authoritative domain and help with giving devcoin a better search presence. Thoughts?

I concur.   You can be liberal with your links from the .org to devcoin as well which will drive traffic anyway, plus build devtome's link count a bit.
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April 28, 2013, 05:40:24 AM
I would suggest separating the two domains. Google tends to penalize sites with forwarded or framed domains. Also, the .org would be an authoritative domain and help with giving devcoin a better search presence. Thoughts?
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April 28, 2013, 05:13:48 AM
Thank you, sadly I don't have time to pick up a whole committed bounty for something. I really was just tying to help a community out, get a little cash, and help out JasinLee since he is my friend and he put it up. I didn't even know it was a bounty I just was bored on the forums and it popped up. I am sorry I did the site so well and complete in a fast manner. Kinda penalizes good programmers, cause now I probably take bitcoin work instead of a devcoin bounty. But it is all cool Good luck in your witch hunts.

What will it return for the value if vircurex is being used and down?

What will it do to the exchange site when used on a busy site, or when under a DDOS?

What you call complete and fast I call quick and dirty.
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April 28, 2013, 05:05:57 AM
Is there some way of making a portal page on the wiki itself, so devtome would keep getting the page views?

Well, you can host many things on same domain; using a reverse proxy like nginx to merge them, for example.

You can also make some custom module for wiki, if that's your thing... But it's likely easier to configure nginx than to develop a new wiki module, unless you happen to be a wiki module developer  Smiley
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April 28, 2013, 04:29:03 AM
There's been more interest in making a devcoin portal page. The current devcoin page is intimidating, however, it is getting page traffic to devtome, which is the most important thing.

Is there some way of making a portal page on the wiki itself, so devtome would keep getting the page views?
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