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it opens the door for an unbalanced range and non-optimal strategy.

welcome to the forums peter joseph  Grin

please explain peter joseph and his ideas

Ok you didn't explain.  Anyways I will.  He believes environment cannot be removed from the process of invention.  What if the best strategy for innovation is lack of structure/imposing environment and the mechanism for innovation is random bit generation?  

It reminds me of this concept I was toying with one time: genetic autonomy.  Seeing as someone else's genetics probably have a fair amount of control on your environment, how do you balance your range against all other genes to retain your genetic autonomy?  That is how do you prevent someone else's genes changing the expression of your genetically inherited traits via an environmental influence?  

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it opens the door for an unbalanced range and non-optimal strategy.

welcome to the forums peter joseph  Grin
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I am a creative logician and have used that to invent high quality concepts and ideas in multiple fields.
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Don't forget egoist!!  You are also a big egoist.  I hope you put your high quality concepts into your IP locker already!  

What a bonehead.  

I'm starting to warm up to you man.  Its like you are secretly my number one fan or something.  I used to love trolling all the time on xbox live.  I'm proposing a way to open source someone else's information: corporate america troll for the lulz!

People want to know that the person behind it is smart with a history of creating cutting edge innovations.  I have a history of innovating and a history of getting screwed by the patent system!  I can't have put my IP into my system yet, and that shows me the tremendous change society is about to experience.  Its kinda weird that as the inventor of this system, I am one of the last inventors to be forced to rely on the old system.  Seems a bit off right?  The USPTO was designed to do this through special interest and lobbies.  In my opinion its design, today, is to remove wealth from innovators and reallocate it to another part of society.  

>egoist
       > see: Mark Zuckerberg
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I am a creative logician and have used that to invent high quality concepts and ideas in multiple fields.
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin   Roll Eyes

Don't forget egoist!!  You are also a big egoist.  I hope you put your high quality concepts into your IP locker already! 

What a bonehead. 
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Can we take the OP serious?

Yes, you can take me seriously.  The work on publicly verifiable proof of storage is my own.  It takes a lot of info from a paper on the subject but I also made changes to that proposal because it didn't provide a way to verify the proof of storage easily enough, or for a way to have a network of miners verify in a single hash.  Publicly verifiable proof of storage was not done in academics until 2008.  That is probably the reason Bitcoin is not well suited to handle that function.  

I don't consider myself a CS expert btw.  I am a creative logician and have used that to invent high quality concepts and ideas in multiple fields.  
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Can we take the OP serious?
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I apologize for the broken link. I used the wrong button so it linked as an ftp URL. http://bitcoinbabble.com/?p=170

The one above should work.

The OP was not clear about the idealized system, and since you claimed to be competing with the USPTO I was assuming you intended to provide protection for work. You put a lot of detail into the proposition of this currency, but I still don't see a value proposition for the inventor/creator, unless we assume that someone will give credence to these coins.

The arguments I laid out were based on my assumptions because the OP wasn't complete. It would be better if you put some more time into fleshing out the system you want.

Thanks.  I did put a lot of thought into this concept.  I invent for a profession and always want my work to be top notch.  

Value for the claim specific currencies will come from advertising rights that are paid for in the specific currency.  Demand for viewing the submitted content drives demand for advertising alongside the submitted content, which drives demand for the currency.  I think this is novel for crypto currencies, which are becoming more like crypto corps.  I think of them more as corporate stock than currency.  

I also believe that if you have a new innovation yet to be published, society gets wealthier when you publish it.  The disclosure transaction makes the world wealthier.  A person discloses the information to society in exchange for coins.  To balance both sides of this equation in equilibrium, the coins should be worth a decent amount depending on the value of the information disclosed.    


value given by inventor to society = value given by society to coins
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I apologize for the broken link. I used the wrong button so it linked as an ftp URL. http://bitcoinbabble.com/?p=170

The one above should work.

The OP was not clear about the idealized system, and since you claimed to be competing with the USPTO I was assuming you intended to provide protection for work. You put a lot of detail into the proposition of this currency, but I still don't see a value proposition for the inventor/creator, unless we assume that someone will give credence to these coins.

The arguments I laid out were based on my assumptions because the OP wasn't complete. It would be better if you put some more time into fleshing out the system you want.
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Is this how you intend to 'build' your project?  - just make a 1000 memes and declare it so.  If you have a gun in the house I suggest you remove it.  Your grand failure is more imminent than you think.


You are doing me a tremendous service by trolling my thread.  

1) you eliminate possible developers who can't think for themselves
2) you keep bumping it to the top
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Is this how you intend to 'build' your project?  - just make a 1000 memes and declare it so.  If you have a gun in the house I suggest you remove it.  Your grand failure is more imminent than you think.
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Nemesis has the ability to open source intellectual property from every corporate office in the world.  It will do much more than that.  It will compensate individuals for their innovative contributions to society.  
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Of course to create a decentralized registration for patents, music and other intellectual properties is a very good idea but why do you want do invent the wheel again ?
Namecoin can already do it.
You just need to define a new Namecoin namespace for music/ or patents/ and the corresponding entries with hashes.


Its not a registration for patents or copyrights.  You get coins specific to your submission, and those coins are required for advertising bids in certain advertising spaces.  

I do not want to reinvent the wheel.  What exactly is similar about namecoin?  If there is code that can be reused I am all for that.  

I'm pretty sure Nemesis is different because it uses multiple types of coins in a unified system. 
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Yes, I am clearly not offering patents.  My use of "intellectual property" is pretty liberal and I am attempting to CHANGE THE MEANING by offering a system that competes with the social function of the USPTO.  Nemesis will not be granting government monopolies or exclusive rights.  That much should be obvious.  

Believe it or not, I have plenty of experience with the USPTO, venture capital, etc.  I have enough experience with the USPTO.  What you need to ask yourself is "do you have experience with the USPTO from an inventor's perspective?"  Thats the perspective I have.  

Allow me to change the name back to a more accurate description: Nemesis the open source intellectual property exploit

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/43027850.jpg

-Minty
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Of course to create a decentralized registration for patents, music and other intellectual properties is a very good idea but why do you want do invent the wheel again ?
Namecoin can already do it.
You just need to define a new Namecoin namespace for music/ or patents/ and the corresponding entries with hashes.
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I can't see your page.  I am interested in reading it.  It requires me to put in a password  
It is protected by patents.  


Oh god, why can't I bet against this guy!!!?  
 

I told you already that I will sell you options with a 2 year minimum contract (once the project is released publicly and mining has begun) as long as you prove a bankroll of $1000 per option, assuming a maximum of 21 million Nemesis shares outstanding.  

You don't know anything about variance do you?  Its the reason morons like you may have actually made money.  Any idiot can get lucky. 

Your claim about my "unique perspective as an inventor" is one worth noting.  In the past, inventor's rights have been trampled because frankly the middle class and corporate elite didn't give a damn. There weren't enough inventors to win a democratic election for inventor's rights, so they got shit on.  That is going to change.  Feel free to go down with the ship.  
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I can't see your page.  I am interested in reading it.  It requires me to put in a password  
It is protected by patents.  


Oh god, why can't I bet against this guy!!!?  Free money.  Didn't you ever read 'the catcher in the rye' - you are talking about a social need which doesn't exist.  We don't need a catcher in the rye because kids don't run in rye fields and fall off cliffs.  That only exists in the Calfield's mind.  Same here buddy.  Because you are a sad jilted inventor who doesn't understand the USPTO - you've imagined a solution which in nonsense.  The problem you purport to solve only exists in your distorted view of the patent office from your very unique view 'as an inventor'.  lol

Boy, oh boy, I wish I could pay everything I've got in a bet that this nonsense will be VERY DEAD in less than two weeks.  

Go work on something else.  
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