[Developing] Altcoin Voting Platform

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Quote from: theRattler on February 02, 2016, 10:49:10 AM

Quote from: Richard1972x on January 26, 2016, 02:55:35 AM

I don’t like to give contact detail of my mobile. That is not a safe thing and I don’t want to share this information.

I think the best way is really IP-related. That seems to be legit and you will also get more voters then with the other options.

How about Email verification?

People can create lot of emails and verify them selves!

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Quote from: Richard1972x on January 26, 2016, 02:55:35 AM

I don’t like to give contact detail of my mobile. That is not a safe thing and I don’t want to share this information.

I think the best way is really IP-related. That seems to be legit and you will also get more voters then with the other options.

How about Email verification?

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 29, 2016, 06:52:02 PM

SMS is the most fair method I think. It can be gamed, but it would cost someone something to heavily game it. All other methods can be heavily gamed at no costs.

Yes!
It secure, but most the people don't like to give their personal details like phone number for just voting

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SMS is the most fair method I think. It can be gamed, but it would cost someone something to heavily game it. All other methods can be heavily gamed at no costs.

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Quote from: Coinbuddy on January 29, 2016, 05:21:41 AM

Exactly...
Instead of SMS how about using Google Authenticator? that sends a code to your smartphone in google auth app and then you put that on website it you added a vote.

Google Authenticator looks like a good idea but there are some flaws. Running Android as a virtual machine is a common practice, and since WinAuth is also available for Windows PCs I can install as much "Google Authenticators" as I want, therefore theoretically I can make infinite votes. However as I would need to put some effort in making a lot of votes, my willingness to do so would depend on the expected profit. So GA could work if the profit doesn't worth the effort. I think SMS is still the best method.

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Quote from: Snail2 on January 29, 2016, 05:09:02 AM

Quote from: Coinbuddy on January 24, 2016, 02:15:54 AM

Hi
I am thinking of making an altcoin voting site, like first users have verify their account by connecting social media accounts (or any other type for confirmation).Then they can vote for the altcoin, but i want Altcoin Exchange site to trust our platform without this it will be unsuccessful.

I thought that One vote per IP per Giveaway+No proxies+No VPNs is best option

How do you think?

Well, I don't know how many IT guys we have here who have access to several customer site, but for example I can reach almost 90 customer sites with ssh, VLC or remote desktop access to local servers. That means nearly 90 votes. As all remote sites have dual internet connection if I'm doing this at night and spend some time on changing the routing priority and briefly swap sites to the backup ISP, I can double my votes. By using some mobile networks (5-6 phones) and free WiFi hotspots what I know, I can add something like 20 more votes. So, with this quick and dirty solution I've made some 200(ish) votes

. I think using IP as an ID is not a really good solution.
Using SMS is probably better, as right now I have access only to 5 phones and I can ask some friends to help me with more, and I can also use some "receive SMS online for free" services but I wouldn't be able to get more than 30 votes, what is an order of magnitude less than the IP based approach

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Exactly...
Instead of SMS how about using Google Authenticator? that sends a code to your smartphone in google auth app and then you put that on website it you added a vote.

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Quote from: Coinbuddy on January 24, 2016, 02:15:54 AM

Hi
I am thinking of making an altcoin voting site, like first users have verify their account by connecting social media accounts (or any other type for confirmation).Then they can vote for the altcoin, but i want Altcoin Exchange site to trust our platform without this it will be unsuccessful.

I thought that One vote per IP per Giveaway+No proxies+No VPNs is best option

How do you think?

Well, I don't know how many IT guys we have here who have access to several customer site, but for example I can reach almost 90 customer sites with ssh, VLC or remote desktop access to local servers. That means nearly 90 votes. As all remote sites have dual internet connection if I'm doing this at night and spend some time on changing the routing priority and briefly swap sites to the backup ISP, I can double my votes. By using some mobile networks (5-6 phones) and free WiFi hotspots what I know, I can add something like 20 more votes. So, with this quick and dirty solution I've made some 200(ish) votes

. I think using IP as an ID is not a really good solution.
Using SMS is probably better, as right now I have access only to 5 phones and I can ask some friends to help me with more, and I can also use some "receive SMS online for free" services but I wouldn't be able to get more than 30 votes, what is an order of magnitude less than the IP based approach

.

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I talked with C-CEX, they said we already have one vote per IP, please do something different that that! We need to think something out of the box.

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Quote from: Ya-ing on January 26, 2016, 12:38:34 PM

I would implement just a captcha voting, similar to faucets. Additionally user has to provide an address for the coin he is voting. Then you only accept votes with different addresses and ips.

Still you could fake it, but not so easily.

Hmm! Exactly

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I would implement just a captcha voting, similar to faucets. Additionally user has to provide an address for the coin he is voting. Then you only accept votes with different addresses and ips.

Still you could fake it, but not so easily.

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Good News!
I have a got a developer! He will start working on it from 1 Feb!

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Quote from: theRattler on January 26, 2016, 04:07:24 AM

Can't you give people a choice to verify by SMS or by vote from IP?

No.It can't happen

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Can't you give people a choice to verify by SMS or by vote from IP?

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Quote from: Richard1972x on January 26, 2016, 02:55:35 AM

I don’t like to give contact detail of my mobile. That is not a safe thing and I don’t want to share this information.

I think the best way is really IP-related. That seems to be legit and you will also get more voters then with the other options.

Its a mix response yet, some people says SMS verification some says IP address.But SMS verification is much secure and transparent then IP-address.

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I don’t like to give contact detail of my mobile. That is not a safe thing and I don’t want to share this information.

I think the best way is really IP-related. That seems to be legit and you will also get more voters then with the other options.

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Quote from: bitcoinboy12 on January 26, 2016, 01:37:05 AM

Quote from: Coinbuddy on January 24, 2016, 12:56:48 PM

Quote from: alwinlinzee on January 24, 2016, 10:24:25 AM

You have concluded the project by mention trust and exchangers but i know for certain that crypto exchange platform like to be independent and dont expect corporations from all of them especially those that charge per vote.

I will not allow paid votes! It should be very transparent platform, so we can convince the crypto exchange sites.
In this way maybe: 1st sms verification, then they vote for the coin, select the exchange and its votes accepted.

It should have a signed message as well. But such voting may not be applicable to every audience as it will take some time for everyone to learn what cryptocurrency is for and its features. Human nature is hard nosed to change so you got to explain it to everyone very patiently. How about making use of colored coins.

Hmm. not everyone have deep knowledge about Crypto Currency.I think SMS is more transparent and much feasible

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Quote from: Coinbuddy on January 24, 2016, 12:56:48 PM

Quote from: alwinlinzee on January 24, 2016, 10:24:25 AM

You have concluded the project by mention trust and exchangers but i know for certain that crypto exchange platform like to be independent and dont expect corporations from all of them especially those that charge per vote.

I will not allow paid votes! It should be very transparent platform, so we can convince the crypto exchange sites.
In this way maybe: 1st sms verification, then they vote for the coin, select the exchange and its votes accepted.

It should have a signed message as well. But such voting may not be applicable to every audience as it will take some time for everyone to learn what cryptocurrency is for and its features. Human nature is hard nosed to change so you got to explain it to everyone very patiently. How about making use of colored coins.

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Quote from: ArticMine on January 26, 2016, 01:13:17 AM

SMS verification is the fairest. It is essentially one vote per mobile phone number. One vote per IP is the simplest but can be easily gamed in all sorts of ways including by using a dial up modem connection. Social media accounts is by far the worst. Why are you making providing all your personal information to the NSA a condition of voting on altcoins? Seriously.

I voted for SMS verification.

You install app on your phone, code is sent and then then we put it on website and it get verified Cheesy

Also Google Authenticator can be helpful

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Quote from: ArticMine on January 26, 2016, 01:13:17 AM

SMS verification is the fairest. It is essentially one vote per mobile phone number. One vote per IP is the simplest but can be easily gamed in all sorts of ways including by using a dial up modem connection. Social media accounts is by far the worst. Why are you making proving all your personal information to the NSA a condition of voting on altcoins? Seriously.

I voted for SMS verification.

Thank you for your opinion.
Hmm! It is much transparent way than all of them, maybe we can also use Authy as well, but let's see how much votes we get on it.

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SMS verification is the fairest. It is essentially one vote per mobile phone number. One vote per IP is the simplest but can be easily gamed in all sorts of ways including by using a dial up modem connection. Social media accounts is by far the worst. Why are you making providing all your personal information to the NSA a condition of voting on altcoins? Seriously.

I voted for SMS verification.

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