devthedev trying to scam ??? - page 2.

mexxer-2

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I belive that unchi is the real owner he posted about this domain 7 months ago on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3cg4c2/passphraseio_zero_knowledge_notepad_inspired_by/

Pretty much established already

doctorsnaggles

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:13:26 AM

I am not saying that uchi is in the wrong here, as he (has claimed to) warn Devthedev about the pending expiration. I would not say that devthedev is a scammer because he missed the deadline to renew a domain to a website that he was trying to sell.

Is it really that hard to find the owner? Why all this comedy stalling.... the one who has access to the domain right now is the owner and the "benefit of doubt" for the other comes when he can prove anything...

Why you are doing all this? (not directed at this quote) ... its 2016 and you act like in 1982 with a C64......is it too complicated to check?

"TOTAL MESS" should be the title on top of the browser when entering bitcointalk ... or "Lordofthefliestalk.org" (for those of you who actually can read)

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:13:26 AM

Quote from: Shield on March 01, 2016, 03:10:31 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:08:24 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on March 01, 2016, 03:04:27 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:03:28 AM

I can only speculate, however it is possible that uchi saw that the domain was about to expire and saved the script and/or uchi used an archive of the website.

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Ok so here's the story.

I originally created passphrase.io.

I sold the domain and license to use my script to devthedev.

A few weeks before the domain expired, I warned dev on two separate occasions that he needed to renew. Once via email and once via PM. I even offered to buy it back from him, but he ignored.

He allowed the domain to expire, and I bought it back.

Also, I think devthdev mentioned somewhere that he did buy the domain+hosting from someone else

Well there you go. Devthedev probably didn't even realize that the domain was (about to) expire.

he missed Unchi PM and email, as well as email from registrar

I am not saying that uchi is in the wrong here, as he (has claimed to) warn Devthedev about the pending expiration. I would not say that devthedev is a scammer because he missed the deadline to renew a domain to a website that he was trying to sell.

I agree
looks like it was a mistake by devthedev to bumping his old topic without knowing domain no longer belongs to him but not a scam attempt

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Quote from: Shield on March 01, 2016, 03:10:31 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:08:24 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on March 01, 2016, 03:04:27 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:03:28 AM

I can only speculate, however it is possible that uchi saw that the domain was about to expire and saved the script and/or uchi used an archive of the website.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Ok so here's the story.

I originally created passphrase.io.

I sold the domain and license to use my script to devthedev.

A few weeks before the domain expired, I warned dev on two separate occasions that he needed to renew. Once via email and once via PM. I even offered to buy it back from him, but he ignored.

He allowed the domain to expire, and I bought it back.

Also, I think devthdev mentioned somewhere that he did buy the domain+hosting from someone else

Well there you go. Devthedev probably didn't even realize that the domain was (about to) expire.

he missed Unchi PM and email, as well as email from registrar

I am not saying that uchi is in the wrong here, as he (has claimed to) warn Devthedev about the pending expiration. I would not say that devthedev is a scammer because he missed the deadline to renew a domain to a website that he was trying to sell.

Shield

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:08:24 AM

Quote from: mexxer-2 on March 01, 2016, 03:04:27 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:03:28 AM

I can only speculate, however it is possible that uchi saw that the domain was about to expire and saved the script and/or uchi used an archive of the website.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Ok so here's the story.

I originally created passphrase.io.

I sold the domain and license to use my script to devthedev.

A few weeks before the domain expired, I warned dev on two separate occasions that he needed to renew. Once via email and once via PM. I even offered to buy it back from him, but he ignored.

He allowed the domain to expire, and I bought it back.

Also, I think devthdev mentioned somewhere that he did buy the domain+hosting from someone else

Well there you go. Devthedev probably didn't even realize that the domain was (about to) expire.

he missed Unchi PM and email, as well as email from registrar

mexxer-2

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Yep found it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1104351

Also unchi seems to have re-announced it 8 days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/46vm5c/passphraseio_is_back_zero_knowledge_privacy/

Shield

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Ok so here's the story.

I originally created passphrase.io.

I sold the domain and license to use my script to devthedev.

A few weeks before the domain expired, I warned dev on two separate occasions that he needed to renew. Once via email and once via PM. I even offered to buy it back from him, but he ignored.

He allowed the domain to expire, and I bought it back.

then why not you told this before that possibly its a mistake when I asked you via PM for proofs and when you written on his topic

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on March 01, 2016, 03:04:27 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:03:28 AM

I can only speculate, however it is possible that uchi saw that the domain was about to expire and saved the script and/or uchi used an archive of the website.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Ok so here's the story.

I originally created passphrase.io.

I sold the domain and license to use my script to devthedev.

A few weeks before the domain expired, I warned dev on two separate occasions that he needed to renew. Once via email and once via PM. I even offered to buy it back from him, but he ignored.

He allowed the domain to expire, and I bought it back.

Also, I think devthdev mentioned somewhere that he did buy the domain+hosting from someone else

Well there you go. Devthedev probably didn't even realize that the domain was (about to) expire.

doctorsnaggles

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A few weeks before the domain expired, I warned dev on two separate occasions that he needed to renew. Once via email and once via PM. I even offered to buy it back from him, but he ignored.

He allowed the domain to expire, and I bought it back.

So, another superhero turned out to be a scammer? Nice

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 03:03:28 AM

I can only speculate, however it is possible that uchi saw that the domain was about to expire and saved the script and/or uchi used an archive of the website.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Ok so here's the story.

I originally created passphrase.io.

I sold the domain and license to use my script to devthedev.

A few weeks before the domain expired, I warned dev on two separate occasions that he needed to renew. Once via email and once via PM. I even offered to buy it back from him, but he ignored.

He allowed the domain to expire, and I bought it back.

Also, I think devthdev mentioned somewhere that he did buy the domain+hosting from someone else

Quickseller

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Quote from: Shield on March 01, 2016, 02:57:23 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 02:56:38 AM

Quote from: xetsr on March 01, 2016, 02:43:00 AM

Did someone forget to renew their domain? Wink

Think that might be the explanation.

The whois record was last updated on Feb 29, 2016, which would point to the domain expiring and then Unchi quickly grabbing it.

the question is what about hosted script on this domain name

I can only speculate, however it is possible that uchi saw that the domain was about to expire and saved the script and/or uchi used an archive of the website.

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Quote from: mexxer-2 on March 01, 2016, 03:03:13 AM

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uploaded 5 days ago

http://archive.is/hXS8B seems so, quite a coincidence considering the script was made public just near the time the domain (as said by QS) was renewed.

someone archiving the site a week before the whois changed (this does not necessarily mean it was renewed -- I think) would be an indication that they were planning on taking the domain after it expired

mexxer-2

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uploaded 5 days ago

http://archive.is/hXS8B seems so, quite a coincidence considering the script was made public just near the time the domain (as said by QS) was renewed.

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Quote from: Shield on March 01, 2016, 02:56:48 AM

Quote from: mocacinno on March 01, 2016, 02:53:01 AM

There are a couple explanations...

-devthedev actually sold the domain + scripts to Unchi
-the domain expired and Unchi regged it
-devthedev was hacked
-some sort of deal between devthedev and Unchi that went sour
-...

Maybe it's wise to just wait untill both parties had a chance to give an explanation before jumping to conclusions.

- if devthedev sold the domain and script then why he bumped the topic today to sale it
- if domain expired and unchi regged then what about hosting same script
- there is no hack report for his account
- if there was any deal then they must have some proofs of it

Well... I was just trying to give some possible explanations, in order to avoid jumping to conclusions to fast... Some explanations were indeed farfetched, but i think they're all still possible:

- if devthedev sold the domain and script then why he bumped the topic today to sale it => maybe because he didn't realise his domain expired?
- if domain expired and unchi regged then what about hosting same script => because the script is opensource and on github
- there is no hack report for his account => maybe he's AFK for a while, and didn't realise his account being compromised yet... Maybe the hacker didn't even change his PW
- if there was any deal then they must have some proofs of it => offcourse.... That's why i suggested to wait untill both parties had a chance to explain Wink

I know i'm playing the devil's advocate here... I'm not saying devthedev is innocent, i'm just saying that he's a respected member, and he does deserve to give his explanation before he's burned Wink

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Quote from: Shield on March 01, 2016, 02:57:23 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 02:56:38 AM

Quote from: xetsr on March 01, 2016, 02:43:00 AM

Did someone forget to renew their domain? Wink

Think that might be the explanation.

The whois record was last updated on Feb 29, 2016, which would point to the domain expiring and then Unchi quickly grabbing it.

the question is what about hosted script on this domain name

You missed my post.

https://github.com/routman/passphrase.io

Which is linked from the site itself.

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Quote from: Quickseller on March 01, 2016, 02:56:38 AM

Quote from: xetsr on March 01, 2016, 02:43:00 AM

Did someone forget to renew their domain? Wink

Think that might be the explanation.

The whois record was last updated on Feb 29, 2016, which would point to the domain expiring and then Unchi quickly grabbing it.

the question is what about hosted script on this domain name

Shield

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Quote from: mocacinno on March 01, 2016, 02:53:01 AM

There are a couple explanations...

-devthedev actually sold the domain + scripts to Unchi
-the domain expired and Unchi regged it
-devthedev was hacked
-some sort of deal between devthedev and Unchi that went sour
-...

Maybe it's wise to just wait untill both parties had a chance to give an explanation before jumping to conclusions.

- if devthedev sold the domain and script then why he bumped the topic today to sale it
- if domain expired and unchi regged then what about hosting same script
- there is no hack report for his account
- if there was any deal then they must have some proofs of it

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Quote from: xetsr on March 01, 2016, 02:43:00 AM

Did someone forget to renew their domain? Wink

Think that might be the explanation.

The whois record was last updated on Feb 29, 2016, which would point to the domain expiring and then Unchi quickly grabbing it.

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Quote from: xetsr on March 01, 2016, 02:50:18 AM

See my reply above:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14056458

Probably an honest mistake. I've had domains drop that were suppose to be auto renewed before, going unnoticed for quite some time.

Just out of curiosity, the so called "honest mistake" - lets say it happens in the real world, this so called "mega trusted superhero" would not in any way contact the previous owner and the owner, who is here claiming its his through his domain, is some sort of "super scammer" ?

Amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing.

The only thing we can learn here is that we can be proud not to have any of these people involved in politics Grin

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Quote from: Shield on March 01, 2016, 02:54:18 AM

Quote from: xetsr on March 01, 2016, 02:50:18 AM

Quote from: Blazed on March 01, 2016, 02:46:48 AM

I am guessing there is an explanation....negative until we figure it out just to be safe.

See my reply above:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14056458

Probably an honest mistake. I've had domains drop that were suppose to be auto renewed before, going unnoticed for quite some time.

Not sure why nobody brought this up.

yes domain expiration is possible but hosting same script Huh

https://github.com/routman/passphrase.io

It only took me a couple of minutes to see what possible happened here lol. Sometimes you guys can be to quick.

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Quote from: xetsr on March 01, 2016, 02:50:18 AM

Quote from: Blazed on March 01, 2016, 02:46:48 AM

I am guessing there is an explanation....negative until we figure it out just to be safe.

See my reply above:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14056458

Probably an honest mistake. I've had domains drop that were suppose to be auto renewed before, going unnoticed for quite some time.

Not sure why nobody brought this up.

yes domain expiration is possible but hosting same script Huh

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