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Quote from: redsun114 on September 20, 2021, 05:42:29 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 20, 2021, 04:59:05 AM

If you want to check it on practice, try this: make a thousand rolls strictly following some sophisticated strategy, and then make a thousand completely random rolls after that, and compare the results. Only one condition: your bankroll must be large enough for making those rolls in both cases.

I don't think we need large bankroll for making random rolls because if you're rolling in random then you never need to double your bets which means you may not need big bankroll. ~

Well, it's true that for random rolls you will probably need a smaller bankroll than for martingale, but we are talking about thousand rolls here, and even if your bet size is $0.01 you still need a $10 bankroll for the experiment, right? Also by "random rolls " I meant random bet size too. So, if you don't want your experiment ruined by zero bankroll after 980 rolls, you better be prepared.

Actually, if your bankroll happened to be zero before the experiment ended, you could just deposit more and continue, but then, although valid, the experiment wouldn't be looking so pretty, aesthetically wise.

Quote from: redsun114 on September 20, 2021, 05:42:29 AM

~ Still, I agree that results from strategy based rolls and random rolls may not show big differences. Because, randomness of gambling may or may not work in favor of us. Even it will work in favor of us, we cannot expect that to be happening all the days and moreover, due to the presence of house-edge, gamblers get lesser chances than houses to be favorable in the environment of randomness.

As I'm always saying, don't overestimate the impact of house-edge on your performance. It's not that big as people might think.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2021, 05:39:34 PM

Quote from: seleme on September 20, 2021, 04:52:21 PM

Dice can be profitable if you leave it while you are in +. It is always hard for gamblers to leave the winning session, even harder to leave the table while you are losing bankroll. Btw, there is no need for instructor simple and easiest strategies to test dice. There is no way to beat the house edge and you will end up losing all one day.

Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost. There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?

and that is the attitude and behavior of a Non Deserving gambler .. I mean this is for the gambler that has no discipline at all mate because if you are a type of gambler that has vision and good attitude you know when to stop and stand from the table and you also Know when to stay.
it is not because we are winning meaning this is endless and same as our losing this means it is permanent.
just put amount to spend , and require amount to win.

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Quote from: uneng on September 20, 2021, 08:33:33 AM

Yes, it doesn't make sense to pay a mentor to teach him something not profitable on long run. I would say it's actually a dangerous possibility, because there are lots of scammers on the internet claiming to be professional dice gamblers who can teach secret strategies to beat the house, while others, even though showing their "secrets" for free are also equally dangerous, because they lead people to lose tons of money assuring they can win through the methods displayed at their youtube videos, aiming the referral comissions they can earn this way.

It is better to avoid that thing than to get scammed by people we do not know because they only offer to teach us, but after we pay some money, they just run away. It is better to use that money to play dice games with small bets and enjoy it because someday, we can win some money without a mentor. A mentor is not too necessary in a dice game and we need to realize that we can learn by ourselves because a dice game is not a type of gambling game that needs the skill to win. Only your luck can help you to win.

Quote from: Saisher on September 20, 2021, 11:04:33 AM

OP's mentor is making money from teaching something that he can find online like Youtube and blogs of gamblers, Dice is the easiest way to learn and all the possible methods that you can use to try to win are already online, why need a mentor, if he is paying his mentor he's been scammed because there is no such thing as a good mentor when it comes to dice, everybody can lose here.

Youtube and blogs can be good sources to learn more details about dice games but do not pay any mentor for dice because that is not worth it. If he can learn from Youtube and watch from the pro gamblers, I think he will understand that dice is the easiest gambling game that does not really need to use strategy because all of that will depend on his luck. Yes, everybody can lose here because no one will know when he will win or lose.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2021, 05:39:34 PM

Quote from: seleme on September 20, 2021, 04:52:21 PM

Dice can be profitable if you leave it while you are in +. It is always hard for gamblers to leave the winning session, even harder to leave the table while you are losing bankroll. Btw, there is no need for instructor simple and easiest strategies to test dice. There is no way to beat the house edge and you will end up losing all one day.

Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost. There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?

That is why when we are in gambling we should always have a self-control no matter what, dice is a very simple game but it will also be easy to wipe out your entire balance. The problem here when gamblers got losses others will follow them too, just because of chasing losses which is not a good practice at all. But one thing that I can share for sure because dice do not have an interview and everyone's mind is free to use but bit to abuse.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 20, 2021, 05:39:34 PM

Quote from: seleme on September 20, 2021, 04:52:21 PM

Dice can be profitable if you leave it while you are in +. It is always hard for gamblers to leave the winning session, even harder to leave the table while you are losing bankroll. Btw, there is no need for instructor simple and easiest strategies to test dice. There is no way to beat the house edge and you will end up losing all one day.

Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost. There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?

In my case I have a hard time leaving when winning than losing, it's because of my mindset of striking while the iron is hot, I've done it twice where I won a big amount I only quit because I was so tired it was my lucky days, but it's hard to repeat that, you'll get lucky if you are lucky, you don't have to force it.

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Quote from: seleme on September 20, 2021, 04:52:21 PM

Dice can be profitable if you leave it while you are in +. It is always hard for gamblers to leave the winning session, even harder to leave the table while you are losing bankroll. Btw, there is no need for instructor simple and easiest strategies to test dice. There is no way to beat the house edge and you will end up losing all one day.

Both of the situation is hard to leave because as you win, you're thinking that you're too lucky to leave. And when you lose, you're too lost to leave and you just want to recover no matter how much you've lost. There's no need for any instructor, maybe he's just needing a guide, where to start, how much to start as a bankroll when he started playing dice. With all that have been said, he can play it alone and is he willing to spend some time and money just for an instructor?

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Quote from: Tessnik on September 20, 2021, 12:37:41 PM

Quote from: taguig on September 20, 2021, 11:12:52 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on September 08, 2021, 03:55:51 AM

Wagering in dice can be a difficult aspect in dice games as newbies who don’t know how to set the wagering mechanism can lead to house advantage, which always causes constant losing dice.I hard my gambling mentor set the wagering number and amount to bet on that have steadily won in dice and place games.So a say dice skills are possible with the right instructor.

It seems you are new to playing dice because you need a mentor to teach you how to play dice and set a wager, you can ask for mentorship buit you don't have to pay because everything you want to know in dice are online, you can read it in the article, watch it on Youtube or search on this forum, it's free because dice is the easiest and popular game to play on every gambling site.

Probability there may be a mentor at some point, but to me, dice is the simplest gambling game and does not require any skills to play it, but again, it depends on the condition the ops get in. Maybe mentors he means introducer.

I’m also wondering what skills do you need for you to become more successful in dice game, I can’t see any reason for you to take dice game seriously because this is the house edge and they are really in control. Dice is so easy to understand, there’s no need for a mentor just know the basic things and you can be good in dice game.

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Dice can be profitable if you leave it while you are in +. It is always hard for gamblers to leave the winning session, even harder to leave the table while you are losing bankroll. Btw, there is no need for instructor simple and easiest strategies to test dice. There is no way to beat the house edge and you will end up losing all one day. There are thousands of video lessons on Youtube, just keep watching and choose any of the mentioned videos, apply it on your autobet. If you don't like anything like increasing % on loss, keep trying the numbers until got the one works for you.

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Quote from: Tessnik on September 20, 2021, 12:37:41 PM

Quote from: taguig on September 20, 2021, 11:12:52 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on September 08, 2021, 03:55:51 AM

Wagering in dice can be a difficult aspect in dice games as newbies who don’t know how to set the wagering mechanism can lead to house advantage, which always causes constant losing dice.I hard my gambling mentor set the wagering number and amount to bet on that have steadily won in dice and place games.So a say dice skills are possible with the right instructor.

It seems you are new to playing dice because you need a mentor to teach you how to play dice and set a wager, you can ask for mentorship buit you don't have to pay because everything you want to know in dice are online, you can read it in the article, watch it on Youtube or search on this forum, it's free because dice is the easiest and popular game to play on every gambling site.

Probability there may be a mentor at some point, but to me, dice is the simplest gambling game and does not require any skills to play it, but again, it depends on the condition the ops get in. Maybe mentors he means introducer.

A simple understanding is enough or just common sense for you to play the game.Period.! Cool

Mentoring or something like that for the sake of some strategy is bullshit.You can search up those kind of strats online and try it for yourself.He had just won because of being lucky nothingless

but believing that he won because someone helped? This is never to happen in gambling specially with dice.Play for entertainment and dont anticipate that much that everything would go smooth.

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Quote from: taguig on September 20, 2021, 11:12:52 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on September 08, 2021, 03:55:51 AM

Wagering in dice can be a difficult aspect in dice games as newbies who don’t know how to set the wagering mechanism can lead to house advantage, which always causes constant losing dice.I hard my gambling mentor set the wagering number and amount to bet on that have steadily won in dice and place games.So a say dice skills are possible with the right instructor.

It seems you are new to playing dice because you need a mentor to teach you how to play dice and set a wager, you can ask for mentorship buit you don't have to pay because everything you want to know in dice are online, you can read it in the article, watch it on Youtube or search on this forum, it's free because dice is the easiest and popular game to play on every gambling site.

Probability there may be a mentor at some point, but to me, dice is the simplest gambling game and does not require any skills to play it, but again, it depends on the condition the ops get in. Maybe mentors he means introducer.

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Quote from: Wiwo on September 08, 2021, 03:55:51 AM

Wagering in dice can be a difficult aspect in dice games as newbies who don’t know how to set the wagering mechanism can lead to house advantage, which always causes constant losing dice.I hard my gambling mentor set the wagering number and amount to bet on that have steadily won in dice and place games.So a say dice skills are possible with the right instructor.

It seems you are new to playing dice because you need a mentor to teach you how to play dice and set a wager, you can ask for mentorship buit you don't have to pay because everything you want to know in dice are online, you can read it in the article, watch it on Youtube or search on this forum, it's free because dice is the easiest and popular game to play on every gambling site.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 20, 2021, 06:25:48 AM

He might still search for a mentor who can help him playing dice better than others. But what I wonder is, does he needs to pay any money to the mentor? Because as far as I know, if we hire someone to be our mentor, we need to give him a payment as the fee taught us about something. He does not have to pay anything if that mentor is someone he knows and does not ask about anything.

OP's mentor is making money from teaching something that he can find online like Youtube and blogs of gamblers, Dice is the easiest way to learn and all the possible methods that you can use to try to win are already online, why need a mentor, if he is paying his mentor he's been scammed because there is no such thing as a good mentor when it comes to dice, everybody can lose here.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on September 19, 2021, 04:56:06 PM

Then where do you get that instructor that shall teach you the best strategy in dicing? Look, everyone is telling about dice is a luck-based game and even if you have someone on your back as your instructor, he'll just teach you the casual way of betting on it but there's no actual strategy that can beat the game.

Probably in that casino as well, I mean those stuff that they mention about things regarding dice arw just old wives tales that just persisted to this day and with the persistence comes the coincidence which made things much worse because now they think that the old saying was true even though it's just a coincidence.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 20, 2021, 06:25:48 AM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on September 19, 2021, 04:56:06 PM

Then where do you get that instructor that shall teach you the best strategy in dicing? Look, everyone is telling about dice is a luck-based game and even if you have someone on your back as your instructor, he'll just teach you the casual way of betting on it but there's no actual strategy that can beat the game.

He might still search for a mentor who can help him playing dice better than others. But what I wonder is, does he needs to pay any money to the mentor? Because as far as I know, if we hire someone to be our mentor, we need to give him a payment as the fee taught us about something. He does not have to pay anything if that mentor is someone he knows and does not ask about anything.

Yes, it doesn't make sense to pay a mentor to teach him something not profitable on long run. I would say it's actually a dangerous possibility, because there are lots of scammers on the internet claiming to be professional dice gamblers who can teach secret strategies to beat the house, while others, even though showing their "secrets" for free are also equally dangerous, because they lead people to lose tons of money assuring they can win through the methods displayed at their youtube videos, aiming the referral comissions they can earn this way.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on September 19, 2021, 04:56:06 PM

Then where do you get that instructor that shall teach you the best strategy in dicing? Look, everyone is telling about dice is a luck-based game and even if you have someone on your back as your instructor, he'll just teach you the casual way of betting on it but there's no actual strategy that can beat the game.

He might still search for a mentor who can help him playing dice better than others. But what I wonder is, does he needs to pay any money to the mentor? Because as far as I know, if we hire someone to be our mentor, we need to give him a payment as the fee taught us about something. He does not have to pay anything if that mentor is someone he knows and does not ask about anything.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on September 19, 2021, 04:56:06 PM

Then where do you get that instructor that shall teach you the best strategy in dicing? Look, everyone is telling about dice is a luck-based game and even if you have someone on your back as your instructor, he'll just teach you the casual way of betting on it but there's no actual strategy that can beat the game.

Exactly, no one beats an odd based gambling game, no matter how good you are, you won't be getting that many wins because the dice moves and there's unlikely chance that you're going to win consecutively plus those gambling houses have put that game there because they know that they're going to get money out of poor suckers who think they can make money in dice.

Apart of the dice game, many other gambling games are luck based. And on dice, it result is not predetermined so you can't be thought what result you can't determine but you just would know the basics of how to plan and try your luck. This is a business that its owners make more profit than the players because the winning chances are very limited.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on September 19, 2021, 04:56:06 PM

Then where do you get that instructor that shall teach you the best strategy in dicing? Look, everyone is telling about dice is a luck-based game and even if you have someone on your back as your instructor, he'll just teach you the casual way of betting on it but there's no actual strategy that can beat the game.

Exactly, no one beats an odd based gambling game, no matter how good you are, you won't be getting that many wins because the dice moves and there's unlikely chance that you're going to win consecutively plus those gambling houses have put that game there because they know that they're going to get money out of poor suckers who think they can make money in dice.

Yes, it's just a wishful thinking that you get to beat the game and the house even if you garner a lot of instructors teaching you the way to defeat them.
To sum it overall, no one ever wins the house and if you ever beat it and that's because you're lucky but it's not always going to happen because no matter how lucky you are, the house always has the last laugh.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 20, 2021, 04:59:05 AM

If you want to check it on practice, try this: make a thousand rolls strictly following some sophisticated strategy, and then make a thousand completely random rolls after that, and compare the results. Only one condition: your bankroll must be large enough for making those rolls in both cases.

I don't think we need large bankroll for making random rolls because if you're rolling in random then you never need to double your bets which means you may not need big bankroll.

Still, I agree that results from strategy based rolls and random rolls may not show big differences. Because, randomness of gambling may or may not work in favor of us. Even it will work in favor of us, we cannot expect that to be happening all the days and moreover, due to the presence of house-edge, gamblers get lesser chances than houses to be favorable in the environment of randomness.

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Quote from: Wakate on September 18, 2021, 02:41:37 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on September 08, 2021, 03:55:51 AM

Wagering in dice can be a difficult aspect in dice games as newbies who don’t know how to set the wagering mechanism can lead to house advantage, which always causes constant losing dice.I hard my gambling mentor set the wagering number and amount to bet on that have steadily won in dice and place games.So a say dice skills are possible with the right instructor.

You can always get what you want even without an instructor but the problem is, it might be difficult for you to excel in dice betting because of no sufficient clue. Having an instructor who might have gone through the system with vast ideas will be of a good help for you to set your path in the dice playing world. Always make sure you follow his teachings and directions and do your best to know the strategy that will be good for you.

Guys you are talking like there might be a strategy for a dice game, following which one could be winning consistently. Read other posts in this thread, some of them are pretty good in showing why this isn't possible, even theoretically.

If you want to check it on practice, try this: make a thousand rolls strictly following some sophisticated strategy, and then make a thousand completely random rolls after that, and compare the results. Only one condition: your bankroll must be large enough for making those rolls in both cases.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on September 19, 2021, 04:56:06 PM

Then where do you get that instructor that shall teach you the best strategy in dicing? Look, everyone is telling about dice is a luck-based game and even if you have someone on your back as your instructor, he'll just teach you the casual way of betting on it but there's no actual strategy that can beat the game.

Some people say there's a strategy and some people says there's no and just on the luck still, it depends on the gambler who plays dice if we are talking about the actual dice in a casino this is the chance to get a win with the properly throw the dice still it depends on the power to toss and the handle before it releases because the user have their own strategy to show the outcome in favour to them. But in a dice game like an online gambling platform, we need to just be dependent on the odds of the game. Its all about the random coded of the developer with the possible outcome.

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