Still need to fill max bets per second.
Lets fill this together
Topic: Dice websites comparsion - page 6. (Read 5849 times)
Added directbet, except waiting for answer when can house edge of 0.49% be reached.
Still need to fill max bets per second.
Lets fill this together
Still need to fill max bets per second.
Lets fill this together
I created a dice comparsion sheet that will be daily updated:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1APWo6ENbjFgl1ECw52vU5yOZewB-YJSM3LC0QxPetbc/edit?usp=sharing]
I wasn't able to find all info from websites, so if there's a question mark and you know the answer just post in this thread.
It's possible that some of the data is incorrect. If I made an error, please notify me and I'll fix it.
Added are websites that are at least few months old and have some decent amount wagered (only Bitcoin websites!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1APWo6ENbjFgl1ECw52vU5yOZewB-YJSM3LC0QxPetbc/edit?usp=sharing]
I wasn't able to find all info from websites, so if there's a question mark and you know the answer just post in this thread.
It's possible that some of the data is incorrect. If I made an error, please notify me and I'll fix it.
Added are websites that are at least few months old and have some decent amount wagered (only Bitcoin websites!)
Great job man ..... i need something like this .................. i saw some sites that i never seen them before ........... keep updating
Directdice website is almost without any info
Hi BitBatFan,
Thank you for your message
We sent you all Direct Dice info for the spreadsheet.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions or if you need anything else.
Thanks a lot !
All the Best,
Michelle
www.DirectBet.eu
Primedice is actually using a max payout of 20 btc, rather than a max win. For a x2 bet, your bet size can only be 10 btc as you will get back 10*2=20 btc if you win. Similarly, for a x1.02 bet, your bet size can only be 19.6 btc.
Added satoshidice, but don't know what's max bet?
Max bet is different from max profit. If you are looking for max profit then it is 18.3 BTC but if it is max bet then it varies according to the multiplier and also the max profit
References : http://dicesites.com/
In spreadhseet I can't auto update max bet
Yes you cant, figured it out myself. Sorry for asking something impossible to be done. Im kinda fool in spreadsheet
but I don't see this so important to be up to date.
This is pretty much important . The title is a comparison of dice websites and max profit in one site is indeed needed for comparison as some people would love to play in a site that could offer them a higher limit of max profit but at this moment I assume this cant be done to keep on updating the max profit because it simply depends on the bankroll of the site which could be more or less then the time it was last updated
I'll be updating this once per week, or month. In this time it will change for +-0.2 BTC.
Whichever that suits you better because it will be lot of workload to keep on changing it each time investment drop or increase . This is a downside of using spreadsheet though nothing can be done in this early stages
Added satoshidice, but don't know what's max bet?
In spreadhseet I can't auto update max bet, but I don't see this so important to be up to date. I'll be updating this once per week, or month. In this time it will change for +-0.2 BTC.
I'll check again about instant withdrawals/deposits
Mostly I'm missing minimum withdrawal and max bets per second in autobet mode.
In spreadhseet I can't auto update max bet, but I don't see this so important to be up to date. I'll be updating this once per week, or month. In this time it will change for +-0.2 BTC.
I'll check again about instant withdrawals/deposits
Mostly I'm missing minimum withdrawal and max bets per second in autobet mode.
You forgot to put SatoshiDice in your list. Also, for FortuneJack, the faucet can only be claimed every 60 seconds even when your balance is < 10 satoshi.
@arallmuus It was a typo for deposit... I meant withdrawal
I added note that instant means if it's processed in 20 seconds or less.
I added note that instant means if it's processed in 20 seconds or less.
If this is so then dicecoin, safedice and pocketdice should be listed with instant as well because they do process it "instantly" according to what you mean as instant. Most site process withdrawal after 1 confirmation atleast and funds will be transfer either instantly or in few seconds which is pretty common sense as no site will let you withdraw before 1 confirmation so putting 1 confirmation there is pretty much vague imo
On a side note, it seems the downside of using spreadsheet is that the max win of some site will be pretty much outdated because it doesnt update automatically .
EDIT : nvm Im a fool, it cant be done
On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet
References : http://dicesites.com/
References : http://dicesites.com/
it is 54.7BTC at lowest HE, and 292BTC at 10% HE
Thanks for the thorough explanation !
On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet
References : http://dicesites.com/
References : http://dicesites.com/
it is 54.7BTC at lowest HE, and 292BTC at 10% HE
aight i see, thanks
honestly i didnt check the two numbers flying around in here, was more some kind of wild extrapolation. 
On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet
References : http://dicesites.com/
References : http://dicesites.com/
it is 54.7BTC at lowest HE, and 292BTC at 10% HE
@arallmuus It was a typo for deposit... I meant withdrawal
I added note that instant means if it's processed in 20 seconds or less.
I added note that instant means if it's processed in 20 seconds or less.
- I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation)
Im not asking you to change the deposit in fortunejack but asking you to change their withdrawal status because their withdrawal is definitely not instant . I dont know if the bolded part is a typo or not but you listed their deposit as 1 confrmation which is true and AFAIK no site will let you withdraw at 0 confirmation.
So just to make sure that we are on the same page for the word "instant withdrawal". what do you mean by instant withdrawal actually? for me it is when the TX ID will be shown immediately after I initiate the withdrawal or atleast the coins was moved instantly after I initiate it .Fortunejack doesnt have that and definitely not instant
- Can't find moneypot cold wallet
Here it is https://www.moneypot.com/proof-of-assets.txt
Peerbet cold wallet is missing.
No published cold wallet address either in dicesites.com
On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet
References : http://dicesites.com/
it is 54.7BTC at lowest HE, and 292BTC at 10% HE
- I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation)
Im not asking you to change the deposit in fortunejack but asking you to change their withdrawal status because their withdrawal is definitely not instant . I dont know if the bolded part is a typo or not but you listed their deposit as 1 confrmation which is true and AFAIK no site will let you withdraw at 0 confirmation.
So just to make sure that we are on the same page for the word "instant withdrawal". what do you mean by instant withdrawal actually? for me it is when the TX ID will be shown immediately after I initiate the withdrawal or atleast the coins was moved instantly after I initiate it .Fortunejack doesnt have that and definitely not instant
- Can't find moneypot cold wallet
Here it is https://www.moneypot.com/proof-of-assets.txt
Peerbet cold wallet is missing.
No published cold wallet address either in dicesites.com
On a side note, SafeDice max profit is 54.7 BTC currently but it was listed 292 in the spreadsheet
References : http://dicesites.com/
I updated sheet, but still can't find many data...
- I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation)
- Can't find moneypot cold wallet
- Safedice house edge is 50% if you bet maximum.
- I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation)
- Can't find moneypot cold wallet
- Safedice house edge is 50% if you bet maximum.
Moneypot's current cold wallet is 1NinE5MNy64iUE6zBdJ2fJ2tfQrRs2ERpm.
Reference: https://www.moneypot.com/proof-of-assets.txt
Safedice's max house edge is 10%.
Reference: https://safedice.com/faq
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What is Variable House Edge?
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If a player wants to win more than 0.25% of the bankroll in a single bet, he can play under a higher edge. The house edge is in accordance with the max win, if a player wants to have a max win of 0.5% bankroll, he will be playing under a 1% house edge, we use a 0.5 Kelly system, so the house edge will always be twice of the max win ratio to the bankroll. The house edge is capped at 10%, so the max win under the variable house edge system is 5% of the bankroll.
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If a player wants to win more than 0.25% of the bankroll in a single bet, he can play under a higher edge. The house edge is in accordance with the max win, if a player wants to have a max win of 0.5% bankroll, he will be playing under a 1% house edge, we use a 0.5 Kelly system, so the house edge will always be twice of the max win ratio to the bankroll. The house edge is capped at 10%, so the max win under the variable house edge system is 5% of the bankroll.
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I updated sheet, but still can't find many data...
- I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation)
- Can't find moneypot cold wallet
- Safedice house edge is 50% if you bet maximum.
Added dicenow and peerbet. Peerbet cold wallet is missing.
Directdice website is almost without any info, I'm not adding them unless they provide me any
Added minimum withdrawal.
Dicesites.com helped me a lot, but still many things are missing
Website is not in plan currently, but maybe I'll create it someday.
Thank you all for helping!
- I left fortunajecks deposit to instant, because 10 seconds is almost nothing if we compare it to 10 minutes (1 confirmation)
- Can't find moneypot cold wallet
- Safedice house edge is 50% if you bet maximum.
Added dicenow and peerbet. Peerbet cold wallet is missing.
Directdice website is almost without any info, I'm not adding them unless they provide me any
Added minimum withdrawal.
Dicesites.com helped me a lot, but still many things are missing
Website is not in plan currently, but maybe I'll create it someday.
Thank you all for helping!
You should take a look at this website: http://dicesites.com/ It has a lot of information and stats on different dice sites and it stays auto updated, I think you'll find some of your answers there and you can list more sites on your list which are on that site but not on your list.
If you can put this onto a website and put effort into it, it will look a little better than a spreadsheet and you can make something of your hobby.
If you can put this onto a website and put effort into it, it will look a little better than a spreadsheet and you can make something of your hobby.
yep, Nicos site is better, live updating and more correct/user-friendly than OPs google doc. just had a brief look, at least two errors on safedice alone. HE is max at 10% not 50
. and there is indeed a trollbox on the bottom right of the site, click on the little green circle to enlarge. 
You should take a look at this website: http://dicesites.com/ It has a lot of information and stats on different dice sites and it stays auto updated, I think you'll find some of your answers there and you can list more sites on your list which are on that site but not on your list.
If you can put this onto a website and put effort into it, it will look a little better than a spreadsheet and you can make something of your hobby.
If you can put this onto a website and put effort into it, it will look a little better than a spreadsheet and you can make something of your hobby.
Some sites don't let you withdraw, unless your last deposit has had N confirmations.
It's designed to protect against people splitting the network with multiple conflicting transactions (with the hope miners mine 1, and the site sees the other). It's really just mainly useful when you want to allow 0-conf deposits, but want some rudimentary protection against double spending. It's been exploited a lot in the past though, when people make an instant deposit. Then immediately do a bet. If the bet fails, attempt to split the network, otherwise let it confirm as normal. So most sites tend to go with the safer, require N confirmations before crediting your account
It's designed to protect against people splitting the network with multiple conflicting transactions (with the hope miners mine 1, and the site sees the other). It's really just mainly useful when you want to allow 0-conf deposits, but want some rudimentary protection against double spending. It's been exploited a lot in the past though, when people make an instant deposit. Then immediately do a bet. If the bet fails, attempt to split the network, otherwise let it confirm as normal. So most sites tend to go with the safer, require N confirmations before crediting your account
What is the meaning of the withdrawal column? Most sites say "instant" in there, but others say 2 confirmations (crypto-games) or 1 confirmation (3 of em towards the bottom). If someone sends a bitcoin transaction to you, it's up to you and your wallet software what you try to do with this. I don't understand at all how a site could delay you trying to spend bitcoins they've already sent you. Can you explain this column?
From what I understand it seems to be the number of confirmations the site requires to process the withdrawals and put them through. Sites which say instant, seem to require 1 confirmation for the deposit, so players will anyways be withdrawing after 1 confirmation, hence they are going to be instant. Sites which have instant in the deposits probably require 1 confirmation so as to process those withdrawals. But it definitely is confusing in cases like pocketdice.
Okay, RHavar and sherbyspark, that explains it. It's the number of confirmations required on a deposit in order to be able to withdrawal it (or presumably, any winnings from it). This makes sense, cheers and thanks.
What is the meaning of the withdrawal column? Most sites say "instant" in there, but others say 2 confirmations (crypto-games) or 1 confirmation (3 of em towards the bottom). If someone sends a bitcoin transaction to you, it's up to you and your wallet software what you try to do with this. I don't understand at all how a site could delay you trying to spend bitcoins they've already sent you. Can you explain this column?
From what I understand it seems to be the number of confirmations the site requires to process the withdrawals and put them through. Sites which say instant, seem to require 1 confirmation for the deposit, so players will anyways be withdrawing after 1 confirmation, hence they are going to be instant. Sites which have instant in the deposits probably require 1 confirmation so as to process those withdrawals. But it definitely is confusing in cases like pocketdice.
Some sites don't let you withdraw, unless your last deposit has had N confirmations.
It's designed to protect against people splitting the network with multiple conflicting transactions (with the hope miners mine 1, and the site sees the other). It's really just mainly useful when you want to allow 0-conf deposits, but want some rudimentary protection against double spending. It's been exploited a lot in the past though, when people make an instant deposit. Then immediately do a bet. If the bet fails, attempt to split the network, otherwise let it confirm as normal. So most sites tend to go with the safer, require N confirmations before crediting your account
It's designed to protect against people splitting the network with multiple conflicting transactions (with the hope miners mine 1, and the site sees the other). It's really just mainly useful when you want to allow 0-conf deposits, but want some rudimentary protection against double spending. It's been exploited a lot in the past though, when people make an instant deposit. Then immediately do a bet. If the bet fails, attempt to split the network, otherwise let it confirm as normal. So most sites tend to go with the safer, require N confirmations before crediting your account
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