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Quote from: zTec on September 05, 2024, 09:30:00 AM

Is there a Dice game (or any game other than blackjack) with an RTP higher than 99% (for example 99.50%) in any crypto casino?

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It's over 99...

And CryptoGames has a really low house edge (but I don't play there), when there are promo periods (for that you need to follow them to know when they start) the house edge is like really low (as I remember it's over 99,5).

Good luck in finding better than these.

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Maybe you want faster games because you want to have a quicker bust? Just kidding.

I think some casinos offer it. I remember a friend telling me that there was one in the bc game. Maybe you can check that out.

I do hope you control yourself, OP.

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Quote from: pawanjain on September 09, 2024, 09:25:42 AM

Makes sense. If the sites are created just to scam then they can obviously give a lower house edge.
1% is still a low house edge but anything less than seems unrealistic.
If any of the sites are providing such low HE then they might turn out to be a scam instead.
Meaning to say is that we should be careful playing on such sites.

House edge just give a minimal impact on a game so even a casino that offers zero house edge is not necessary they are scam since they can still win against players without any house edge advantage through relying only on the human error which players often committed when gambling.

Right now there’s no casino dare to offer this anymore since player doesn’t really care about this. Only player that play long term just the OP benefit on low house edge since you can save a lot of money if you play millions of bet on this game.

But for average bettor the house edge doesn’t matter since a 4% is now being use on slot games while no one even bother about it.

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 07, 2024, 06:56:07 AM

Dice with house edge lower than 1% is quite rare, it reminds me of 999dice (they claimed to have 0.1% HE) and Safedice with 0.5% HE.
Unfortunately both are gone as they turned to be scam (correct me if I'm wrong).
These days, it is hard to see dice with house edge less than 1%, maybe we will only see it when a casino or dice site offer a special promotion only.
As what previous other members has already said, 1% is the most used and the standard house edge of dice game as well as some other in house games.

Makes sense. If the sites are created just to scam then they can obviously give a lower house edge.
1% is still a low house edge but anything less than seems unrealistic.
If any of the sites are providing such low HE then they might turn out to be a scam instead.
Meaning to say is that we should be careful playing on such sites.

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Regarding this, this minimal reduction is not going to change anything in the long term results, because House Edge will continue to be a loser, and in the short term, well, having 0.5% more in his favor will make him have some more positive sessions and will last a little longer, but I don't think he is going to notice it much either.

If he is looking to “make money” playing slots by reducing HE he is taking the wrong approach.

Considering that I play long-term, it means a lot to me if I have, for example, an RTP of 99.30% instead of 99% and on a large number of hands it makes a significant difference, at least for me. My strategy is based on RTP, I try to "artificially" slightly increase RTP, so everything is important to me. I'm not looking for the holy grail and a winning system. I know how RTP or house edge works in the long term.

So, if you know how it works, what are you expecting? Lose money anyway? Because the House Edge means you're going to lose money, even if it's a little less. And the most common way you can reduce it (or increase your RTP if you prefer) is to bet a lot. So, you bet a lot of money and the house offers you an RTP of 99.3% instead of 99% (via a VIP program or bonuses or whatever.), which was the one you had originally, but that's because even though they take less commission percentage-wise they will probably make more money with what you bet more.

I expect to lose less money in the long run than the game's declared RTP, that's all. I don't count the VIP reward program and other bonuses, that's just an additional benefit.
I have my own strategy and long-term plan, so let's say that an RTP of 99.60% is good enough for me.

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Quote from: zTec on September 07, 2024, 04:08:14 PM

Quote from: Poker Player on September 07, 2024, 02:41:03 AM

Regarding this, this minimal reduction is not going to change anything in the long term results, because House Edge will continue to be a loser, and in the short term, well, having 0.5% more in his favor will make him have some more positive sessions and will last a little longer, but I don't think he is going to notice it much either.

If he is looking to “make money” playing slots by reducing HE he is taking the wrong approach.

Considering that I play long-term, it means a lot to me if I have, for example, an RTP of 99.30% instead of 99% and on a large number of hands it makes a significant difference, at least for me. My strategy is based on RTP, I try to "artificially" slightly increase RTP, so everything is important to me. I'm not looking for the holy grail and a winning system. I know how RTP or house edge works in the long term.

So, if you know how it works, what are you expecting? Lose money anyway? Because the House Edge means you're going to lose money, even if it's a little less. And the most common way you can reduce it (or increase your RTP if you prefer) is to bet a lot. So, you bet a lot of money and the house offers you an RTP of 99.3% instead of 99% (via a VIP program or bonuses or whatever.), which was the one you had originally, but that's because even though they take less commission percentage-wise they will probably make more money with what you bet more.

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Quote from: Poker Player on September 07, 2024, 02:41:03 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on September 05, 2024, 11:47:07 PM

The fact that he is looking for a lower house edge, that means he believe that his chances of winning would increase.

Regarding this, this minimal reduction is not going to change anything in the long term results, because House Edge will continue to be a loser, and in the short term, well, having 0.5% more in his favor will make him have some more positive sessions and will last a little longer, but I don't think he is going to notice it much either.

If he is looking to “make money” playing slots by reducing HE he is taking the wrong approach.

Considering that I play long-term, it means a lot to me if I have, for example, an RTP of 99.30% instead of 99% and on a large number of hands it makes a significant difference, at least for me. My strategy is based on RTP, I try to "artificially" slightly increase RTP, so everything is important to me. I'm not looking for the holy grail and a winning system. I know how RTP or house edge works in the long term.

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You are very unlikely to be able to find this kind of game IMO, 99% is already a very high RTP, not offered by many casinos or providers as far as I know. You only can reach such RTP thanks to bonus, promotions, or contest rewards. The only game I know offering RTP higher than 99% basically is Blackjack.

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Quote from: Poker Player on September 07, 2024, 02:41:03 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on September 05, 2024, 11:47:07 PM

The fact that he is looking for a lower house edge, that means he believe that his chances of winning would increase.

Regarding this, this minimal reduction is not going to change anything in the long term results, because House Edge will continue to be a loser, and in the short term, well, having 0.5% more in his favor will make him have some more positive sessions and will last a little longer, but I don't think he is going to notice it much either.

If he is looking to “make money” playing slots by reducing HE he is taking the wrong approach.

I'm sorry but I think it is. When it comes to House Edge, I think that even a tiny decrease or increase on it can mean a lot already or we can say that it is a game changer. Also, I think it wasn't the House Edge is the ones that is the loser here or will continue to be a loser as you said because House Edge is an ally of the casino owner. It is known that they always win, especially in the long run that the gamblers are playing.

Even with what I've said earlier, there are still better games than Slots that already has a default lower House Edge if we want to make money but there is still a better advice than it, and that is to not see gambling as a money-making machine.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on September 07, 2024, 09:21:05 AM

It will be hard to find a Dice game with a RTP like that because the casinos need a house edge to make profit, other way they will earn cero in the long run and that's a problem because for them the casino represent a cost, they has to pay for the servers and the licence, and that isn't cheap at all, the last time i read about licence prices they was around $5k, but i don't know if that already changed.

You are absolutely right about license fee and server cost, but as regards to license alone, some casinos still operate with fake license or no license at all, so, lets remove the cost of license from the expenditure of online gambling casinos and focus more on those we are very sure of.

Aside spending on servers, several casino also have employees they have to pay salaries bi-weekly or monthly, and those who own the casinos have personal life and families too, which means no matter what, they have to make profit in other to take care of themselves and their families.
And this only means that casino are nothing but a business, and regardless of their claim on provably fair games, they will always make sure their game setup puts the casino in advantage and not disadvantage.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on September 07, 2024, 08:08:52 AM

Quote from: zTec on September 05, 2024, 09:30:00 AM

Is there a Dice game (or any game other than blackjack) with an RTP higher than 99% (for example 99.50%) in any crypto casino?
I see that monk.gg offers roulette and coinflip with RTP 100% if played in monk currency. Personally, these games are too slow for me, I'm more interested in the autoplay option and a faster game mode.

I do not believe in that RTP as a gambler in this cryptocurrency field.

Having a 100% RTP doesn’t mean it’s rigged or too good to be true. They just remove the house edge and make the game fair in terms of risk to payout ratio. Some old casino offer this IIRC edgeless casino that boast no house edge on their games but already considered as dead right now due to few players active.

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Just to me, just play in the slot games, and I'm happy, because I don't need to think of strategies just to win a big amount.

Then one more time I tried that Autoplay, and based on my experience, it was also not effective in the end that you were still losing; in short, no one finally won the end of defeat.

Actually, you can’t feel the house edge immediately especially if you are just playing with minimal spin or bankroll since it’s just a small percentage that takes effect on millions or more bets. It’s right to just enjoy the game rather than think about this small factor that doesn’t give huge impact on short term games.

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It will be hard to find a Dice game with a RTP like that because the casinos need a house edge to make profit, other way they will earn cero in the long run and that's a problem because for them the casino represent a cost, they has to pay for the servers and the licence, and that isn't cheap at all, the last time i read about licence prices they was around $5k, but i don't know if that already changed.

But in the other hand i see you like to use betting bots, i have posted some dice bots in the past for the casino Just-dice, they allow bots, so, is fun to test different logics with them.

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Quote from: zTec on September 05, 2024, 09:30:00 AM

Is there a Dice game (or any game other than blackjack) with an RTP higher than 99% (for example 99.50%) in any crypto casino?
I see that monk.gg offers roulette and coinflip with RTP 100% if played in monk currency. Personally, these games are too slow for me, I'm more interested in the autoplay option and a faster game mode.

I do not believe in that RTP as a gambler in this cryptocurrency field. Just to me, just play in the slot games, and I'm happy, because I don't need to think of strategies just to win a big amount.

Then one more time I tried that Autoplay, and based on my experience, it was also not effective in the end that you were still losing; in short, no one finally won the end of defeat.

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Quote from: zTec on September 05, 2024, 09:30:00 AM

Is there a Dice game (or any game other than blackjack) with an RTP higher than 99% (for example 99.50%) in any crypto casino?
I see that monk.gg offers roulette and coinflip with RTP 100% if played in monk currency. Personally, these games are too slow for me, I'm more interested in the autoplay option and a faster game mode.

You can only see this low RTP games on decentralized casino that focuses on low house edge. Even Primedice which is the oldest dice game already lowered their house edge to 98% while they offer 99%+ RTP in the past. Most of the dice games available on centralized casino right now has below 99% RTP commonly ranging from 90% to 98% max.

Casino knew that users use their low house edge games to farm wager for their VIP level that’s why they make the RTP low as much as possible to push user to involved on higher house edge games. Stake and Primedice 98% RTP is already good tho.

You would have to be a moron to place a bet on a dice game with a 10% house edge. Whatever casino you see that on, leave quick and never return cause that's just highway robbery.

@OP 1% house edge is probably about the best you are going to find and really all you need IMO.

Lmao yeah right, I don’t play dice anymore so I automatically skip that dice game. I just browse their dice to easily complete my wagering requirements for my deposit but it turns out they make it high house edge probably for same reason to not be use as an easy escape for wagering.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on September 05, 2024, 09:40:29 AM

Casino knew that users use their low house edge games to farm wager for their VIP level that’s why they make the RTP low as much as possible to push user to involved on higher house edge games. Stake and Primedice 98% RTP is already good tho.

Stake could exclude users from wagering for their VIP levels through dice. Put it simply, don't count dice wagers, problem solved.

I doubt that casino will do that for this simple reason.

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 07, 2024, 06:56:07 AM

Dice with house edge lower than 1% is quite rare, it reminds me of 999dice (they claimed to have 0.1% HE) and Safedice with 0.5% HE.
Unfortunately both are gone as they turned to be scam (correct me if I'm wrong).
These days, it is hard to see dice with house edge less than 1%, maybe we will only see it when a casino or dice site offer a special promotion only.
As what previous other members has already said, 1% is the most used and the standard house edge of dice game as well as some other in house games.

This is true. There’s no such casino that will still be profitable in the long run for offering a house edge that almost zero. They have monthly expenses while they are just relying for players to end up in lose rather than have a fixed gain on every bet made by players regardless of the result.

I remember safedice and other dice site that offer house edge free games but all of them didn’t last long and even the popular dice site is now forced to higher house edge due to the promo they attached on wagering.

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Dice with house edge lower than 1% is quite rare, it reminds me of 999dice (they claimed to have 0.1% HE) and Safedice with 0.5% HE.
Unfortunately both are gone as they turned to be scam (correct me if I'm wrong).
These days, it is hard to see dice with house edge less than 1%, maybe we will only see it when a casino or dice site offer a special promotion only.
As what previous other members has already said, 1% is the most used and the standard house edge of dice game as well as some other in house games.

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Quote from: zTec on September 05, 2024, 09:30:00 AM

Is there a Dice game (or any game other than blackjack) with an RTP higher than 99% (for example 99.50%) in any crypto casino?
I see that monk.gg offers roulette and coinflip with RTP 100% if played in monk currency. Personally, these games are too slow for me, I'm more interested in the autoplay option and a faster game mode.

If I have to give you an advice, I should advice you a reputable crypto casino. Sadly, there is none that's famous and also has lower than 1% house edge, 1% is the standard in this industry and particularly in dice.

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Quote from: Solosanz on September 05, 2024, 10:24:59 AM

I have check several sites like Bitvest, Stake, Duelbits, Sicodice, Crypto games, and Bustadice, unfortunately the house edge of these sites is 1%. Crypto games was used to be 0.8% and they also have 0.4% house edge promotion for VIP members, but I'm not sure how about now.

I have not heard of this kind of promotion. Who can be a VIP member and which casino allows it?

But that's why I know about a completely different kind of promotion: the casino has an RTP on the Dice game of 99%, but if the welcome bonus is accepted then the RTP is 97%. And I noticed that before I made the deposit, so I gave up.

I don't know how true that information is but if they really have a special house edge for VIP players, then definitely you become VIP by wagering lots of coins.
By the way, Betfury's RTP is 99.02% (if extra 0.2 makes any sense) but they have 99.28% RTP on BlackJack as they claim.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 05, 2024, 11:47:07 PM

The fact that he is looking for a lower house edge, that means he believe that his chances of winning would increase.

Regarding this, this minimal reduction is not going to change anything in the long term results, because House Edge will continue to be a loser, and in the short term, well, having 0.5% more in his favor will make him have some more positive sessions and will last a little longer, but I don't think he is going to notice it much either.

If he is looking to “make money” playing slots by reducing HE he is taking the wrong approach.

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Quote from: Solosanz on September 05, 2024, 10:24:59 AM

I have check several sites like Bitvest, Stake, Duelbits, Sicodice, Crypto games, and Bustadice, unfortunately the house edge of these sites is 1%. Crypto games was used to be 0.8% and they also have 0.4% house edge promotion for VIP members, but I'm not sure how about now.

Probably new casinos offer lower than 1%, but the risk is on you.

From the Crypto.Games FAQ, default seems to be at 99% now for both Dice v1 and v2

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Quote from: Solosanz on September 05, 2024, 10:24:59 AM

I have check several sites like Bitvest, Stake, Duelbits, Sicodice, Crypto games, and Bustadice, unfortunately the house edge of these sites is 1%. Crypto games was used to be 0.8% and they also have 0.4% house edge promotion for VIP members, but I'm not sure how about now.

I have not heard of this kind of promotion. Who can be a VIP member and which casino allows it?

But that's why I know about a completely different kind of promotion: the casino has an RTP on the Dice game of 99%, but if the welcome bonus is accepted then the RTP is 97%. And I noticed that before I made the deposit, so I gave up.

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