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Topic: DiceBits.com - Provably Fair Dice / 1% House Edge (Read 2592 times)

legendary
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★ BitClave ICO: 15/09/17 ★
OP may seen as hero account but be aware that account was stolen and original op is probably newbie.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=964525.180;topicseen
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I do not think we ever announced running such a program (did we?) though if it's that big I would be more than willing to fork out a portion of my payroll (not that I get paid a lot...). Drop me and Yussuf a private message and we can sort it out.

Thanks, dude  Cheesy

I've sent a PM.
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
Hiya,

I am the owner of previously closed site uberdice.com.

Firstly let me just say best of luck with your start-up and I hope it goes well.

However on a duller note, I hope you are aware that the law in the UK regarding remote gambling is probably the most clear in its interpretation (compared to other countries). If it hasn't been blocked significantly by other parties it is likely that it is only due to a lack of extradition agreements (which the US has an abundance of) and UK prosecutions. Specifically the gambling commission refers to "money or money's worth", the latter being the distinctive term and has been noted by one forum user here in a letter from the commission, that it believes bitcoin falls into this category. Indeed maintaining and publicising you're an LTD registered in the UK is likely only going to make you public enemy #1. Not only does this potentially carry criminal prosecution but also as director of an LTD you can be disqualified, which leads to its own future business implications.

Never the less if knowing this you're still willing to assume the risk, then all power to you.

Which brings me to my second comment which is, having worked on Johny's script for a great deal of time I have fixed many bugs. I recently reported a list to him for a bounty and he conveniently shut down sales and ran off without my reward. I can already see some of these bugs still exist on your site and one of them is major enough to potentially empty the bankroll.

I believe you offer a reward program? Can you confirm this.

Thanks and all the best.

I do not think we ever announced running such a program (did we?) though if it's that big I would be more than willing to fork out a portion of my payroll (not that I get paid a lot...). Drop me and Yussuf a private message and we can sort it out.

Thanks, dude  Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 722
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Hiya,

I am the owner of previously closed site uberdice.com.

Firstly let me just say best of luck with your start-up and I hope it goes well.

However on a duller note, I hope you are aware that the law in the UK regarding remote gambling is probably the most clear in its interpretation (compared to other countries). If it hasn't been blocked significantly by other parties it is likely that it is only due to a lack of extradition agreements (which the US has an abundance of) and UK prosecutions. Specifically the gambling commission refers to "money or money's worth", the latter being the distinctive term and has been noted by one forum user here in a letter from the commission, that it believes bitcoin falls into this category. Indeed maintaining and publicising you're an LTD registered in the UK is likely only going to make you public enemy #1. Not only does this potentially carry criminal prosecution but also as director of an LTD you can be disqualified, which leads to its own future business implications.

Never the less if knowing this you're still willing to assume the risk, then all power to you.

Which brings me to my second comment which is, having worked on Johny's script for a great deal of time I have fixed many bugs. I recently reported a list to him for a bounty and he conveniently shut down sales and ran off without my reward. I can already see some of these bugs still exist on your site and one of them is major enough to potentially empty the bankroll.

I believe you offer a reward program? Can you confirm this.

Thanks and all the best.
hero member
Activity: 504
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
I think I have found a pretty major bug in your site. While playing around on your site it looks like, when playing with faucet funds, that the amount your account will be credited is off by a factor of one when you win. For example when playing 2x, a win will simply have your account balance remain the same. A win on a 4x bet will have your balance increase by only 3x of your bet.

For a 4x bet only returning 3x, please see betID 43682 - I bet 2 sats, rolled a 6.5 with a under 24.75 to win and was only credited 6 sats.

For a 2x bet allowing your balance to only remain the same, please see betID 43674 - I bet 1 sat, rolled a 11.32 with a under 49.5 to win and my balance stayed the same.

The above obviously increases your house edge to significantly above 1%.

Please contact me to get an address to pay for this bug report

I also have the above concern that it is not possible to chance the client seed, which makes your site provably unfair
I'll look into the bug myself and forward the request for a bounty to the owner. I hold no funds for this casino.

Yes, I'm reading into bitZino's techblog about how probably fair should be implemented.
copper member
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I think I have found a pretty major bug in your site. While playing around on your site it looks like, when playing with faucet funds, that the amount your account will be credited is off by a factor of one when you win. For example when playing 2x, a win will simply have your account balance remain the same. A win on a 4x bet will have your balance increase by only 3x of your bet.

For a 4x bet only returning 3x, please see betID 43682 - I bet 2 sats, rolled a 6.5 with a under 24.75 to win and was only credited 6 sats.

For a 2x bet allowing your balance to only remain the same, please see betID 43674 - I bet 1 sat, rolled a 11.32 with a under 49.5 to win and my balance stayed the same.

The above obviously increases your house edge to significantly above 1%.

Please contact me to get an address to pay for this bug report

I also have the above concern that it is not possible to chance the client seed, which makes your site provably unfair
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
It seems the issue that I raised yesterday was not fixed yet. So while you are it, I might chime in few things for you to fix alltogether.

1. It seems rather inconvenience if you click on the chat bar because if you are chatting you cant see the result of your roll. Perhaps you could move the chatbox into somewhere else where we can chat and also at the same time to see the result of the roll

2. Roll speed is still slow, whats the speed of the roll currently?

3. There is an arrow on top right corner on the box where the sites profit are, but when I clicked on it, there is nothing shown there

4. Is there a way to do an unlimited roll with the autobet feature? Seems like We cant do it as the maximum for the rolls is 10,000 rolls / seconds even if I tried to put in more than that and

5. player is able to roll with 0 satoshi bet but It wont be shown at the all bet section but shown at the mybets section

6. It is not really "provably fair" if we cant change our seed, this is the most crucial things that you need to add for your sites
Thanks for your opinions! Smiley I'll see if I can reply your points one by one.

1. Yes, I see your point. I will speak with the owner and designer about this.

2. Rolls fine for me, there's no limit BUT it takes a while especially if you have a slower internet connection.

3. Noted.

4. Not currently, we don't want users gambling all their monies away overnight while they're sleeping; well... maybe we do Roll Eyes I'll look into adding an unlimited roll feature.

5. This was intentional. Allows user to evaluate rolls by being able to roll for free a lot.

6. I understand your meaning. I will prioritize this.

Also: Yussuf can provide more comprehensive ideas than I. In the past he's simply told me what he wants and left me to figure out a way to do it. I am not tied up in the ownership of this site at all.
legendary
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It seems the issue that I raised yesterday was not fixed yet. So while you are it, I might chime in few things for you to fix alltogether.

1. It seems rather inconvenience if you click on the chat bar because if you are chatting you cant see the result of your roll. Perhaps you could move the chatbox into somewhere else where we can chat and also at the same time to see the result of the roll

2. Roll speed is still slow, whats the speed of the roll currently?

3. There is an arrow on top right corner on the box where the sites profit are, but when I clicked on it, there is nothing shown there

4. Is there a way to do an unlimited roll with the autobet feature? Seems like We cant do it as the maximum for the rolls is 10,000 rolls / seconds even if I tried to put in more than that and

5. player is able to roll with 0 satoshi bet but It wont be shown at the all bet section but shown at the mybets section

6. It is not really "provably fair" if we cant change our seed, this is the most crucial things that you need to add for your sites
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
The faucet doesn't seem to be working for me.

Edit: It works if I click the "claim" button. But if I press enter key, the faucet tab just closes.
Good point. I expected users to hit the button, but I'll fix it so the Enter key works too.
hero member
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The faucet doesn't seem to be working for me.

Edit: It works if I click the "claim" button. But if I press enter key, the faucet tab just closes.
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
Do you have an investment section? I can't see it
Yussuf asked me to disable it for the first month so we don't look like another invest-here-then-run "dice" site.
legendary
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Do you have an investment section? I can't see it
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
Hope not too late to get the free 0.005 giveaway..
Username : Panjul07

Added

Thanks, received it.
Just tried to bet on auto bet..but after several bets it stopped suddenly, tried to restart the auto bet but it got stuck.
I decided to reload the page but it seems that your site is down now.
Are you working on maintenance?

No, we're not. I just tried loading the page; it loads fine for me.
legendary
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Hope not too late to get the free 0.005 giveaway..
Username : Panjul07

Added

Thanks, received it.
Just tried to bet on auto bet..but after several bets it stopped suddenly, tried to restart the auto bet but it got stuck.
I decided to reload the page but it seems that your site is down now.
Are you working on maintenance?
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
One simple question, is the script of this site developed by Johny1976?

The UI of the site is almost an exact copy of Uberdice.com V1 . Uberdice.com is being auctioned right now and he claimed this


The system is built with PHP/Javascript/MySQL and on-top of the dice script developed by johny1976, see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507515.200.

P.S : whats the roll speed of the site? seems to be slow enough for me ( could be my from my connection though )
Hey there, back again... (oh no, it's this annoying developer who is "not listening")

The base script is CoinDice 3.8, which is developed by Johny, yes. I have added numerous improvements such as a referral system, removing the visible URL from the address bar, investment system (disabled for now, yussuf doesn't want to be shunned for starting investments from the beginning), etc.

That answer your question? Also, our design is custom-made.

Right it answered my question, just wanted to know though. Nevertheless I was abit shocked to see almost the same site with uberdice V1. The main problem will still be the roll speed, tried it with a better connection and still the rolling speed is still very slow

Few things which I found from the site
1. The top right corner displayed the site profit to be 0.259 BTC while if you check on the statistic you can see the in the global status that the site's profit is -0.259 BTC

2. Is there a way for me to change my seed hash? Because there is no button to do so in the provably fair page


1. Thank you! I will fix this.

2. No, not currently.
legendary
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My username is shanem1

Hope I am not late for the giveaway
legendary
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One simple question, is the script of this site developed by Johny1976?

The UI of the site is almost an exact copy of Uberdice.com V1 . Uberdice.com is being auctioned right now and he claimed this


The system is built with PHP/Javascript/MySQL and on-top of the dice script developed by johny1976, see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507515.200.

P.S : whats the roll speed of the site? seems to be slow enough for me ( could be my from my connection though )
Hey there, back again... (oh no, it's this annoying developer who is "not listening")

The base script is CoinDice 3.8, which is developed by Johny, yes. I have added numerous improvements such as a referral system, removing the visible URL from the address bar, investment system (disabled for now, yussuf doesn't want to be shunned for starting investments from the beginning), etc.

That answer your question? Also, our design is custom-made.

Right it answered my question, just wanted to know though. Nevertheless I was abit shocked to see almost the same site with uberdice V1. The main problem will still be the roll speed, tried it with a better connection and still the rolling speed is still very slow

Few things which I found from the site
1. The top right corner displayed the site profit to be 0.259 BTC while if you check on the statistic you can see the in the global status that the site's profit is -0.259 BTC

2. Is there a way for me to change my seed hash? Because there is no button to do so in the provably fair page

EDIT : username arallmuus, if there is still spot for the free coins
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad


the roll slow too for me -_-
it need around 1 minute for 1 roll

I will look into this.

oke Cheesy

and i have a suggest it will be good if you have an option for /2 or x2
Great idea! Will also look into adding this.
hero member
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the roll slow too for me -_-
it need around 1 minute for 1 roll

I will look into this.

oke Cheesy

and i have a suggest it will be good if you have an option for /2 or x2
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
One simple question, is the script of this site developed by Johny1976?

The UI of the site is almost an exact copy of Uberdice.com V1 . Uberdice.com is being auctioned right now and he claimed this


The system is built with PHP/Javascript/MySQL and on-top of the dice script developed by johny1976, see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507515.200.

P.S : whats the roll speed of the site? seems to be slow enough for me ( could be my from my connection though )
Hey there, back again... (oh no, it's this annoying developer who is "not listening")

The base script is CoinDice 3.8, which is developed by Johny, yes. I have added numerous improvements such as a referral system, removing the visible URL from the address bar, investment system (disabled for now, yussuf doesn't want to be shunned for starting investments from the beginning), etc.

That answer your question? Also, our design is custom-made.

To those having trouble withdrawing: I've disabled the check while I work on a solution. Try again.


P.S : whats the roll speed of the site? seems to be slow enough for me ( could be my from my connection though )

the roll slow too for me -_-
it need around 1 minute for 1 roll

I will look into this.
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