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Topic: Did I just get trojaned? (Read 3255 times)

newbie
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June 27, 2011, 12:57:28 PM
#24
Here's a tutorial on how to make a secure bitcoin wallet

http://startbitcoin.com/how-to-create-a-secure-bitcoin-wallet/
newbie
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Merit: 0
June 27, 2011, 12:37:54 PM
#23
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
June 27, 2011, 06:51:01 AM
#22
So far, the only coins sent from that address have gone to: 13ypsfMgdRXLhzLGjcsy9CguKm5g2z9GW1 (10 btc, not redeemed yet).
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1010
June 27, 2011, 06:39:03 AM
#21
I still changed all of my passwords on important sites -- but I forgot Dropbox, where I was using the same email address and password as the old mtgox one.

If you are meaning to say you were storing your wallet unencrypted on DropBox, that outcome is not surprising.

Related: http://wapo.st/jfV2CD
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
June 27, 2011, 05:41:58 AM
#20
I figured out what I think is the only possible attack vector. The mtgox leak include an old password of mine, one that was never used on mtgox while the account was active. I still changed all of my passwords on important sites -- but I forgot Dropbox, where I was using the same email address and password as the old mtgox one.

I would guess the other guy was hacked in the same way, given that it happened when both of us had our computers turned off.
foo
sr. member
Activity: 409
Merit: 250
June 27, 2011, 05:04:16 AM
#19
Another thread with coins sent to the same address: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23068

OP, did you by any chance install a namecoin binary recently?
legendary
Activity: 1264
Merit: 1008
June 26, 2011, 08:42:37 PM
#18
doesnt windows come shipped with trojans right out of the box?


Only if its packaged with norton

+1  lol 
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
June 26, 2011, 08:33:41 PM
#17
Running windows 7.

You're already infected.  Wink
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
June 26, 2011, 08:10:36 PM
#16
Spybot, Malwarebytes, Zonealarm say I'm clean except for tracking cookies.

Running windows 7.
vip
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Merit: 1140
The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
June 26, 2011, 07:55:26 PM
#15
I created a Paper Bitcoin Wallet to protect against this kind of theft. See my sig line.
member
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June 26, 2011, 07:51:09 PM
#14
doesnt windows come shipped with trojans right out of the box?

Yes, yes it does:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messenger_service

this is one of Bitcoins biggest flaws - most ppl are to dumb to know how to secure their wallet / computer and when their funds are lost or stolen they lose faith in the bitcoin system.   

This doesn't have anything to do with Bitcoin.  It has to do with not being able to secure your own computer and avoid stupid mistakes.  It's no different from their Quicken Data File, the passwords on their online banking sites, and spreadsheets they have in their My Documents folder that contain personal or private information.

Securing their Wallet is no different, and it isn't the Bitcoin GUI's issue if someone can't do that.  Can it be made better, sure.  But it has NOTHING to do with Bitcoin itself.

Perhaps someone could market a secure USB device for noobs that does everything for them - encrypts and keeps their wallet safe while housing their core Bitcoin application used for transfers. $$$$ . 

You mean like this:  https://www.ironkey.com/personal

Unfortunately, it requires someone to first believe they are susceptible to being hacked; that they have current anti-virus and anti-malware installed on their broken operating system, and that they aren't dumb enough to install obviously hacked software like GUIMiner_Cracked.



legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1010
June 26, 2011, 07:21:41 PM
#13
Excuse the noob question, but how do you make several wallets - I don't see an option for switching between wallet files/folders on my (mac) bitcoin client?

The wallet data file is in the data directory:
  - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory

Though you could get yourself in a mess trying to use multiple wallets if you aren't careful.

It might be best to spend your coins from your wallet (e.g., to a wallet on another computer or to an online eWallet), archive it, test the archive, then delete the wallet so that bitcoin will create a new, empty wallet that you would use exclusively going forward.
hero member
Activity: 767
Merit: 500
June 26, 2011, 07:20:26 PM
#12
Excuse the noob question, but how do you make several wallets - I don't see an option for switching between wallet files/folders on my (mac) bitcoin client?

1. set up a new user and run a new wallet under this user; or,
2. use the -datadir switch to specify a different location when launching bitcoin

Will
legendary
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Merit: 1001
June 26, 2011, 07:12:39 PM
#11
doesnt windows come shipped with trojans right out of the box?


Only if its packaged with norton
GA
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
June 26, 2011, 07:04:13 PM
#10
Excuse the noob question, but how do you make several wallets - I don't see an option for switching between wallet files/folders on my (mac) bitcoin client?
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1008
June 26, 2011, 06:58:53 PM
#9
doesnt windows come shipped with trojans right out of the box?

this is one of Bitcoins biggest flaws - most ppl are to dumb to know how to secure their wallet / computer and when their funds are lost or stolen they lose faith in the bitcoin system.    Perhaps someone could market a secure USB device for noobs that does everything for them - encrypts and keeps their wallet safe while housing their core Bitcoin application used for transfers. $$$$ . 
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1010
June 26, 2011, 06:41:51 PM
#8
What system do you have? Windows? Anybody heard of any trojans or hacks on mac against bitcoin wallets yet?

I don't know of any bitcoins lost as a result but there was an incident where DropBox was not secure for a period of time a few days ago.
  - http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/20/dropbox-security-bug-made-passwords-optional-for-four-hours/

Anyone storing their wallet on dropbox unencrypted, *AND HAD THEIR DROPBOX ACCOUNT ACCESSED* during that time, would be at risk.

The problem is that the only way to know if your account had been compromised was by receiving a notice from DopBox saying so. 

If the wallet was grabbed, not only are any coins in the wallet at risk, any future coins received (over the next 100 transactions, if the wallet uses the default address pool size) would be at risk as well.

In other words, if you happened to use DropBox to archive your wallet, unencrypted -- treat that wallet as if it were compromised.  Move your coins to a new location (e.g., an eWallet provider, such as MyBitcoin) and then create a new wallet.

GA
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
June 26, 2011, 06:14:55 PM
#7
What system do you have? Windows? Anybody heard of any trojans or hacks on mac against bitcoin wallets yet?
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
June 26, 2011, 06:10:13 PM
#6
Watching this thread.
hero member
Activity: 767
Merit: 500
June 26, 2011, 06:07:41 PM
#5
assume your keys are compromised

set up a new wallet and transfer any bitcoins you have left (or are generating) to there and not any of your existing addresses.

Will
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