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Topic: Did you read this? This is crazy shit. - page 3. (Read 4245 times)

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August 16, 2015, 10:22:02 AM
#35
It is crazy shit.  absolutely.

the sad thing is, Hearn is right.  (yeah.... the same Mike Hearn that previously said whitelisting is a good idea... the same Mike Hearn that I said shouldn't be trusted) Sadly, he is making a lot more sense and communicating a lot better than the so called core devs!

I am hopeful the community will do the right thing and move to bigger blocks in time to avert bandwidth issues.

And I think Hearn is right: the "core devs" are being stubborn and selfish and want to do things their own way.  They may be motivated as much by intellectual righteousness as by greed.  Regardless, they have failed to articulate their positions to the community (as far as I have seen) and so as much as I've had a bias against Hearn, he's the good guy right now.

Good point. You're correct that Hearn is superior at communicating. The Core Devs are not clearly articulating their positions. At all.

I am indeed in the anti-Hearn camp, yet neither can I ally myself with the stumbling selfishness of the Core Devs.

What's disheartening is that this should be a nonissue, as most everyone supports larger blocks.
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August 16, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
#34
Buying on the Dips a good idea? cause the price is kinda tanking Lips sealed
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August 16, 2015, 09:14:09 AM
#33
BitcoinXT is the most dangerous proposal ever! It requires a hard fork and will ultimately destroy Bitcoin if it gets implemented. This is a hostile takeover from Mike Hearn in order to destroy Bitcoin. Choosing XT is like saying no to what we have today! Stability will be gone and XT will pretty much damage everything we have been spending time on the past 6 years.
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August 16, 2015, 09:13:03 AM
#32
Eyes rolled as soon as I saw it's Mike Hearn.  He and Gavin don't care about 'Bitcoin'...  Not really.  They have ulterior motives with this fork.  Be careful and take what he writes with a grain of salt.  

This is quite a longshot, but Satoshi's opinion is really needed about the matter here.

Please elaborate, what are these ulterior motives that Gavin and Mike have? I am not aware of any, but then again I dont read everything involved in this.

Who knows.  But they become masters of the universe of bitcoin that's for sure.
legendary
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August 16, 2015, 09:08:57 AM
#31
It could be the end of Gavin and Mike in the bitcoin developing world. If everyone stays with core, that is. I don't believe the developer base for XT is as large as it is for bitcoin core.

Gavin and Mike do not have support from the majority of developers for good reason, because their plan puts Bitcoin at risk.

I really hope that these two narcissistic dictators will leave Bitcoin core forever.
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August 16, 2015, 08:28:27 AM
#30
What's Mike whining about? He's such a crybaby ...

Mike is the most obvious Sockpuppet i have seen in a while ...

Gavincoin doing hostile takeover of BTC? GTFO Mike.


This whole shit gets far too much attention ...
legendary
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August 16, 2015, 02:39:54 AM
#29
you can find a good overview about the 8MB consensus here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/big-block-support-observer-1153957
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August 16, 2015, 12:55:59 AM
#28
I predict this news will cause the exchange rate to fluctuate between $250 and $300. lol

Ha!

I'll take that bet Wink.
legendary
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August 16, 2015, 12:50:07 AM
#27
[u rl=https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1]https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1[/url]

This very well could be the end of Bitcoin.  In every case, it is insanely serious.  Notably: "The decision process for Bitcoin Core - is broken". 

Price to less than $100 before Wednesday.  Bet me. 

you are over reacting to this.
it is a crazy and big incident for bitcoin but the price is not going to be affected in large scale as you are claiming. the effect is small and going to end soon.
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August 16, 2015, 12:47:37 AM
#26
I predict this news will cause the exchange rate to fluctuate between $250 and $300. lol
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August 16, 2015, 12:43:16 AM
#25
Eyes rolled as soon as I saw it's Mike Hearn.  He and Gavin don't care about 'Bitcoin'...  Not really.  They have ulterior motives with this fork.  Be careful and take what he writes with a grain of salt.  

This is quite a longshot, but Satoshi's opinion is really needed about the matter here.

Wish granted:





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August 16, 2015, 12:29:22 AM
#24
Eyes rolled as soon as I saw it's Mike Hearn.  He and Gavin don't care about 'Bitcoin'...  Not really.  They have ulterior motives with this fork.  Be careful and take what he writes with a grain of salt.  

This is quite a longshot, but Satoshi's opinion is really needed about the matter here.

Please elaborate, what are these ulterior motives that Gavin and Mike have? I am not aware of any, but then again I dont read everything involved in this.
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August 16, 2015, 12:04:46 AM
#23
Eyes rolled as soon as I saw it's Mike Hearn.  He and Gavin don't care about 'Bitcoin'...  Not really.  They have ulterior motives with this fork.  Be careful and take what he writes with a grain of salt.  

This is quite a longshot, but Satoshi's opinion is really needed about the matter here.

And that is exactly why an imposer appeared to please retards like you

http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html


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I have been following the recent block size debates through the mailing list.  I had hoped the debate would resolve and that a fork proposal would achieve widespread consensus.  However with the formal release of Bitcoin XT 0.11A, this looks unlikely to happen, and so I am forced to share my concerns about this very dangerous fork.

The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth.  When I designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement.  Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satoshi Nakamoto.  Nearly everyone has to agree on a change, and they have to do it without being forced or pressured into it.  By doing a fork in this way, these developers are violating the "original vision" they claim to honour.

They use my old writings to make claims about what Bitcoin was supposed to be.  However I acknowledge that a lot has changed since that time, and new knowledge has been gained that contradicts some of my early opinions.  For example I didn't anticipate pooled mining and its effects on the security of the network.  Making Bitcoin a competitive monetary system while also preserving its security properties is not a trivial problem, and we should take more time to come up with a robust solution.  I suspect we need a better incentive for users to run nodes instead of relying solely on altruism.

If two developers can fork Bitcoin and succeed in redefining what "Bitcoin" is, in the face of widespread technical criticism and through the use of populist tactics, then I will have no choice but to declare Bitcoin a failed project.  Bitcoin was meant to be both technically and socially robust.  This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.

Satoshi Nakamoto


There is no way to prove that guy is real Satoshi, that message didn't have signature.
legendary
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August 15, 2015, 10:13:42 PM
#22
IT is not in ma nature to bet but if possible the contrary i will bet with satisfaction about your news. Nothing will happen to bitcoin nor tomorrow, nor after a week and nor after a hundred of years. Bitcoin will be only developed more and more and will be more and more popular. More people will known it and even more will use it as a everyday currency or as e way of investment.
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August 15, 2015, 09:49:38 PM
#21
This is quite a longshot, but Satoshi's opinion is really needed about the matter here.This very well could be the end of Bitcoin.

Stop acting like Bitcoin is a cult you retard.

legendary
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August 15, 2015, 09:29:20 PM
#20
- snip -
Price to less than $100 before Wednesday.  Bet me. 

I call BS.

Put your money where your mouth is.

I'll take that bet.
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August 15, 2015, 09:26:30 PM
#19
You guys are overreacting, big time. This isn't the end of the world. Bitcoin will be fine.

Honestly, Bitcoin will be just fine I agree.

Indeed but bitcoin seems addicted to drama...

Not bitcoin, just the idiot shills on this forum. Not sure why, but they are drawn to controversy like moths to a flame.
legendary
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August 15, 2015, 09:19:53 PM
#18
It is crazy shit.  absolutely.

the sad thing is, Hearn is right.  (yeah.... the same Mike Hearn that previously said whitelisting is a good idea... the same Mike Hearn that I said shouldn't be trusted) Sadly, he is making a lot more sense and communicating a lot better than the so called core devs!

I am hopeful the community will do the right thing and move to bigger blocks in time to avert bandwidth issues.

And I think Hearn is right: the "core devs" are being stubborn and selfish and want to do things their own way.  They may be motivated as much by intellectual righteousness as by greed.  Regardless, they have failed to articulate their positions to the community (as far as I have seen) and so as much as I've had a bias against Hearn, he's the good guy right now.
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August 15, 2015, 09:17:00 PM
#17
In its journey, Bitcoin face lot of hurdles.  So this time also it overcome this type of difficulties and it will be fine in future.
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August 15, 2015, 08:45:40 PM
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