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Topic: Diff thread Jan 26 to Feb 9 picks are closed. 0.2btc prize - page 6. (Read 9218 times)

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Today finished at +24%.

Nice!

 Tongue

I had a few words for it none of them were nice.  But wow if we can raise it 25 percent during this difficulty does anyone else find that scary?  That just scares me thinking about it even being possible.

This one is going to hurt.

Thinking of buying miners in the next 5 months is a crazy gambling move.  The reference points won't be the same.  A 4 TH/s miner will be considered like and S1 today.  The new chips developped by Bitfury, Bitmain and others (yes, there are more) will mark new standards.

As a miner, it's freaking me out.  The only thing we can do is accept it.  That's the evolution of mining.

The problem that worries me the most is the disagreements in the community (that includes devs, merchants, miners, etc.) about several foundamental things (including scaling).  That could have a devastating effect on BTC price and on us, miners.



this mining in exahashes makes the whole POW scheme looking silly.
Phil calculated it somewhere as a response to my post. Basically, it goes like this:
1024 PH/s are used to support just 200,000 transactions/day, which means 5.12TH/transaction a day.
So, at least one S7 costing ~$1000 (average price over last 3-4 mo) or more is used to support ONE measly transaction a day.
If this is not an overkill, then I don't know what is.

So lets think positive and BTC is grossly under priced.

144 blocks need to do  10,000 transactions each   this would justify the firepower we now have.

So we will crash or take off really soon.  

10,000 transactions per block if each fee were 0.0001 would be    1btc in fees per block

10,000 transactions per block if each fee were 0.00005 would be 0.5 btc in fees per block


without transaction growth this is simply not going to work.

I like you positive thinking and I agree that btc is underpriced, but we (miners) seem to have no control over this, apparently.
interesting times...so we need transactions going exponential, but they are not (at least not yet).
something is not working overall...maybe the populace is too skeptical of bitcoin.

I am fine with that, but why the heck we build up so much hashing power basically in the absence of demand.
recent increases are cringeworthy and smack of a lack of understanding how it might affect everyone.
Maybe it is a play for power on Bitfury's/Bitmain's part and we just got to be on the receiving end of what is essentially amounts to a devastation.

I still wonder if part of reason for under priced BTC is big operations dumping BTC for fiat and paying off new miners.   I think someone is adding a lot of hash and likely is selling a ton of BTC to pay for the new gear.   Which company or companies it is would be interesting to know and amounts.   

But I think big operations mining and needing fiat could be part of why btc is so under priced.    And a lot of big operations are able to sell it at that and still make big profits so I guess more power to them.

They are strip mining as fast and as hard as they can. They are also selling as much gear as possible.

They see a ditch on the highway.

The 1/2 ing. So they are figuring make every fucking penny they can before the coins rewards drop.

I am willing to lose in a crash somewhat. But not more then 10k.

My limit in btc is 10k spread around .  I have 4400 in gear and 10 coins at the moment.

If buy solar gets the 60kwatt array done I will add some more gear and run it with him..


legendary
Activity: 1456
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Today finished at +24%.

Nice!

 Tongue

I had a few words for it none of them were nice.  But wow if we can raise it 25 percent during this difficulty does anyone else find that scary?  That just scares me thinking about it even being possible.

This one is going to hurt.

Thinking of buying miners in the next 5 months is a crazy gambling move.  The reference points won't be the same.  A 4 TH/s miner will be considered like and S1 today.  The new chips developped by Bitfury, Bitmain and others (yes, there are more) will mark new standards.

As a miner, it's freaking me out.  The only thing we can do is accept it.  That's the evolution of mining.

The problem that worries me the most is the disagreements in the community (that includes devs, merchants, miners, etc.) about several foundamental things (including scaling).  That could have a devastating effect on BTC price and on us, miners.



this mining in exahashes makes the whole POW scheme looking silly.
Phil calculated it somewhere as a response to my post. Basically, it goes like this:
1024 PH/s are used to support just 200,000 transactions/day, which means 5.12TH/transaction a day.
So, at least one S7 costing ~$1000 (average price over last 3-4 mo) or more is used to support ONE measly transaction a day.
If this is not an overkill, then I don't know what is.

So lets think positive and BTC is grossly under priced.

144 blocks need to do  10,000 transactions each   this would justify the firepower we now have.

So we will crash or take off really soon.  

10,000 transactions per block if each fee were 0.0001 would be    1btc in fees per block

10,000 transactions per block if each fee were 0.00005 would be 0.5 btc in fees per block


without transaction growth this is simply not going to work.

I like you positive thinking and I agree that btc is underpriced, but we (miners) seem to have no control over this, apparently.
interesting times...so we need transactions going exponential, but they are not (at least not yet).
something is not working overall...maybe the populace is too skeptical of bitcoin.

I am fine with that, but why the heck we build up so much hashing power basically in the absence of demand.
recent increases are cringeworthy and smack of a lack of understanding how it might affect everyone.
Maybe it is a play for power on Bitfury's/Bitmain's part and we just got to be on the receiving end of what is essentially amounts to a devastation.

I still wonder if part of reason for under priced BTC is big operations dumping BTC for fiat and paying off new miners.   I think someone is adding a lot of hash and likely is selling a ton of BTC to pay for the new gear.   Which company or companies it is would be interesting to know and amounts.   

But I think big operations mining and needing fiat could be part of why btc is so under priced.    And a lot of big operations are able to sell it at that and still make big profits so I guess more power to them.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Today finished at +24%.

Nice!

 Tongue

I had a few words for it none of them were nice.  But wow if we can raise it 25 percent during this difficulty does anyone else find that scary?  That just scares me thinking about it even being possible.

This one is going to hurt.

Thinking of buying miners in the next 5 months is a crazy gambling move.  The reference points won't be the same.  A 4 TH/s miner will be considered like and S1 today.  The new chips developped by Bitfury, Bitmain and others (yes, there are more) will mark new standards.

As a miner, it's freaking me out.  The only thing we can do is accept it.  That's the evolution of mining.

The problem that worries me the most is the disagreements in the community (that includes devs, merchants, miners, etc.) about several foundamental things (including scaling).  That could have a devastating effect on BTC price and on us, miners.



this mining in exahashes makes the whole POW scheme looking silly.
Phil calculated it somewhere as a response to my post. Basically, it goes like this:
1024 PH/s are used to support just 200,000 transactions/day, which means 5.12TH/transaction a day.
So, at least one S7 costing ~$1000 (average price over last 3-4 mo) or more is used to support ONE measly transaction a day.
If this is not an overkill, then I don't know what is.

So lets think positive and BTC is grossly under priced.

144 blocks need to do  10,000 transactions each   this would justify the firepower we now have.

So we will crash or take off really soon.  

10,000 transactions per block if each fee were 0.0001 would be    1btc in fees per block

10,000 transactions per block if each fee were 0.00005 would be 0.5 btc in fees per block


without transaction growth this is simply not going to work.

I like you positive thinking and I agree that btc is underpriced, but we (miners) seem to have no control over this, apparently.
interesting times...so we need transactions going exponential, but they are not (at least not yet).
something is not working overall...maybe the populace is too skeptical of bitcoin.

I am fine with that, but why the heck we build up so much hashing power basically in the absence of demand.
recent increases are cringeworthy and smack of a lack of understanding how it might affect everyone.
Maybe it is a play for power on Bitfury's/Bitmain's part and we just got to be on the receiving end of what is essentially amounts to a devastation.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Today finished at +24%.

Nice!

 Tongue

I had a few words for it none of them were nice.  But wow if we can raise it 25 percent during this difficulty does anyone else find that scary?  That just scares me thinking about it even being possible.

This one is going to hurt.

Thinking of buying miners in the next 5 months is a crazy gambling move.  The reference points won't be the same.  A 4 TH/s miner will be considered like and S1 today.  The new chips developped by Bitfury, Bitmain and others (yes, there are more) will mark new standards.

As a miner, it's freaking me out.  The only thing we can do is accept it.  That's the evolution of mining.

The problem that worries me the most is the disagreements in the community (that includes devs, merchants, miners, etc.) about several foundamental things (including scaling).  That could have a devastating effect on BTC price and on us, miners.



this mining in exahashes makes the whole POW scheme looking silly.
Phil calculated it somewhere as a response to my post. Basically, it goes like this:
1024 PH/s are used to support just 200,000 transactions/day, which means 5.12TH/transaction a day.
So, at least one S7 costing ~$1000 (average price over last 3-4 mo) or more is used to support ONE measly transaction a day.
If this is not an overkill, then I don't know what is.

So lets think positive and BTC is grossly under priced.

144 blocks need to do  10,000 transactions each   this would justify the firepower we now have.

So we will crash or take off really soon. 

10,000 transactions per block if each fee were 0.0001 would be    1btc in fees per block

10,000 transactions per block if each fee were 0.00005 would be 0.5 btc in fees per block


without transaction growth this is simply not going to work.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Today finished at +24%.

Nice!

 Tongue

I had a few words for it none of them were nice.  But wow if we can raise it 25 percent during this difficulty does anyone else find that scary?  That just scares me thinking about it even being possible.

This one is going to hurt.

Thinking of buying miners in the next 5 months is a crazy gambling move.  The reference points won't be the same.  A 4 TH/s miner will be considered like and S1 today.  The new chips developped by Bitfury, Bitmain and others (yes, there are more) will mark new standards.

As a miner, it's freaking me out.  The only thing we can do is accept it.  That's the evolution of mining.

The problem that worries me the most is the disagreements in the community (that includes devs, merchants, miners, etc.) about several foundamental things (including scaling).  That could have a devastating effect on BTC price and on us, miners.



this mining in exahashes makes the whole POW scheme looking silly.
Phil calculated it somewhere as a response to my post. Basically, it goes like this:
1024 PH/s are used to support just 200,000 transactions/day, which means 5.12TH/transaction a day.
So, at least one S7 costing ~$1000 (average price over last 3-4 mo) or more is used to support ONE measly transaction a day.
If this is not an overkill, then I don't know what is.
full member
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Smile while thinking.
Today finished at +24%.

Nice!

 Tongue

I had a few words for it none of them were nice.  But wow if we can raise it 25 percent during this difficulty does anyone else find that scary?  That just scares me thinking about it even being possible.

This one is going to hurt.

Thinking of buying miners in the next 5 months is a crazy gambling move.  The reference points won't be the same.  A 4 TH/s miner will be considered like and S1 today.  The new chips developped by Bitfury, Bitmain and others (yes, there are more) will mark new standards.

As a miner, it's freaking me out.  The only thing we can do is accept it.  That's the evolution of mining.

The problem that worries me the most is the disagreements in the community (that includes devs, merchants, miners, etc.) about several foundamental things (including scaling).  That could have a devastating effect on BTC price and on us, miners.

legendary
Activity: 1456
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Today finished at +24%.

Nice!

 Tongue

I had a few words for it none of them were nice.  But wow if we can raise it 25 percent during this difficulty does anyone else find that scary?  That just scares me thinking about it even being possible.

This one is going to hurt.
legendary
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 Tongue
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I think the cutest pick is skuser at +20.9% I thought of going high but decided it was too high, lets hope so?  Smiley
He should have gone with the 'The Price Is Right' strategy and said "What's the highest bid, Bob? 19.9? I'll go with 20.0"

okay skuser 20.9  tried to do a smart pick.

so I will top off at 21.9  above that it is a rollover.

I do believe it is fair I also think he was very close to missing cutoff .
sr. member
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I think the cutest pick is skuser at +20.9% I thought of going high but decided it was too high, lets hope so?  Smiley
He should have gone with the 'The Price Is Right' strategy and said "What's the highest bid, Bob? 19.9? I'll go with 20.0"
legendary
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picks are now closed

we are now open

I think you forgot to edit out a sentence in your second post, Phil.

And damn it, I was stuck in the field all morning and didn't make it to a computer in time to guess.  Good luck, everyone, see you next round!
legendary
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@philipma1957 Closest range or closest range without going over?
hero member
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I hope Phil will win this one, but i also dream of having 1milion btc Roll Eyes
hero member
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+18.7 = lanfeusst
+18.8 = radiumsoup
+19.0 = RichBC
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I am giving it to the closest range.
jerks...I was set up smack in the middle of a huge 2.9% range with just a few hours to go and you guys had to spoil it Wink

I think the cutest pick is skuser at +20.9% I thought of going high but decided it was too high, lets hope so?  Smiley

Rich
sr. member
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+18.7 = lanfeusst
+18.8 = radiumsoup
+19.0 = RichBC
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I am giving it to the closest range.
jerks...I was set up smack in the middle of a huge 2.9% range with just a few hours to go and you guys had to spoil it Wink
legendary
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Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'

we are now closed

-1.2 = philipma1957  >>>>>>  first pick if it wins i will roll it back in


 +6.9 = fr4nkthetank
 +8.0  = ACAB
 +8.1  = vapourminer
 +9.0  =  lolxxxx
 +9.1  = adaseb
 +9.6  = Psi
+10.0 =  Swordsoffreedom
+10.5 = pusttiu

+10.9 = indiemax

+11.0 = Lituation
+11.5 = Last of the V8s
+11.8 = wpt1wpt1
+11.9 = sebbysebbybinx
+12.0 = cakir
+12.1 = valkir
+12.7 = flikflak
+12.9 = tertius993
+13.1 = blindminer

+13.3 = edonkey
+13.5 = HerbPean
+14.1 = alfacro
+14.4 = vortexz
+14.5 = d57heinz
+14.8 = alh
+15.0 = ingiltere
+15.3 = Tmdz
+15.5 = wlefever
+15.9 = Biodom
+16.0 = zebedee
+16.1 = VirosaGITS
+16.2 = kama
+16.4 = Notlist3d
+16.5 = mwizard
+17.0 = ezeminer
+17.5 = tlhIlwI
+18.0 = DanDan  We'll set a new record maybe.  for highest ph yes
+18.7 = lanfeusst
+18.8 = radiumsoup
+19.0 = RichBC
+19.5 = mavericklm
+19.9 = Kexkey
+20.9 = skuser


 I will repeat there will be a winner.  I am giving it to the closest range.


 No rollovers other then if my pick of -1.2% is the winner I will roll that over.


I am maxing the prize at .2 from now on. So only 1 rollover.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
picks are now closed
sr. member
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+20.9 = skuser
hero member
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Can't leave this much longer, about 4 Blocks to go and I am having trouble accessing the Forum, so I hope this goes in

19.0 = RichBC


EDIT  Phew made it, Forum back here, perhaps I should not leave things so late.... Sorry for the emails Phil, but would not be the same without a pick....
sr. member
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+17.5 = tlhIlwI
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