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sisikin

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Although I will pay attention to who posted the post. But I will still read the content.

Quote from: isaac_clarke22 on July 30, 2021, 02:15:05 AM

Nah, OP. If you were reading around the forum a little bit, you'll notice this newbie ranked account that posted couple of articles by his own. It is kind of long and that is the only issue I had.
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I have also read his post. I cannot answer some posts because they are too esoteric.

Luffygroove

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I think it psychologically makes sense, that we always look up to those who have higher labels, who have more than us. It makes us have faith in them, respect them, and want to have the same thing as them. However, we can't blindly do it and always consider other factors. In this case, there's always a possibility such higher ranks not always got their rank by working hard but buying others accounts instead (Although I believe those practices are near zero possibility looking at how strict the forum is). That's why even those high ranks are probably mesmerizing, we should always consider the content even if it's come from newbies. So honestly, I can't choose, but if I have to choose I'll choose the second option

CryptoHeadlineNews

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As for me, it doesn't matter the rant of the poster, what matters most is the content of the post. I pay most attention to quality post, and when you see it, you know it.

defi-Dany

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Quote from: Jazmin Leslie on August 07, 2021, 04:36:49 AM

I will check the posts of some active newcomers, such as KingsDen kaggie kxwhalexk RainbowKun
Their ranks are not high,But it didn't affect my discovery that they are quality members.

RainbowKun published many articles last month. He is often seen in the discussion forum now, and he is an outstanding newcomer.

defi-Dany

jr. member

Activity: 42

Merit: 18

Quote from: BlackPinker on August 05, 2021, 10:19:27 PM

I will not refrain from viewing a person's post just because he is a novice or a low-level member.

But there are some legends\hero posts that I will pay special attention to. They have a good reputation, such as loyceV, Ratimov, DdmrDdmr, etc. Their posts will be of high quality

Yes, I agree. And they are eager to help newbies.It is with them that the newbies become legend.

Jazmin Leslie

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Merit: 24

I will check the posts of some active newcomers, such as KingsDen kaggie kxwhalexk RainbowKun
Their ranks are not high,But it didn't affect my discovery that they are quality members.

BlackPinker

jr. member

Activity: 50

Merit: 5

I will not refrain from viewing a person's post just because he is a novice or a low-level member.

But there are some legends\hero posts that I will pay special attention to. They have a good reputation, such as loyceV, Ratimov, DdmrDdmr, etc. Their posts will be of high quality

JillianTaft

member

Activity: 135

Merit: 16

Quote from: pawanjain on July 31, 2021, 07:26:18 AM

Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

I will have an unconscious admiration for legends, and feel that what they say makes more sense, even newbies say the same thing.
I want to know if you guys feel this way Cheesy

They may say the same the thing but it is how they portray and make their post constructive.
I have observed many times that while Newbies describe a particular topic the high ranked/high merited users portray the same message more constructively.
I guess this is why they receive more attention than Newbies. That's my perspective and I may be wrong as well.
But as far as you are giving out good content you will surely receive attention from the old members on this forum.

Indeed, I have also seen similar posts. The questions asked by novices are not clear. Replies always ask about the problem of the post. Some old users even comment on every answer method below. This is that the novice is not rigorous enough, and has not yet clear the answer that he wants to get.
The posts of old members are rich in content, which not only allows me to understand the content of the posts, but also improves my awareness, and also makes me subconsciously think that old users’ posts are more valuable.

defi-Dany

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Merit: 18

Quote from: Connor Britton on August 03, 2021, 02:55:28 AM

In fact, at the beginning, I only dared to read the posts posted by others, but did not dare to reply, because I was a newbie in the forum, and I was afraid of replying or posting errors, and no one would read my replies or posts. When I muster the courage to reply to a post, someone will not reply to me because I am a novice. Everyone feels like friends. I think there is no hierarchy. Everyone can post and reply.
Many people think that what the hero says is credible, and the same topic still has the weight of the hero. I will look at everyone's topics.

same.At the beginning, I didn't dare to reply, because I was worried that I might say something wrong. But I muster up the courage to express my thoughts, and there will be many legends who will reply and give suggestions very seriously. I am really grateful to them. They are concerned about the growth of new members. I think this is the reason why the forum has endured.

Maus0728

legendary

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Merit: 1563

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Yep. I completely admit that using Chipmixer participants as an indicator for finding quality posts is completely biased and extremely unfair to other members who make a concerted effort to make their posts constructive and informative. It's just another method I use to quickly skim all of the posts that are worth reading, especially if the thread is obviously full of BS replies.

Andi I also understand that they are all humans who make mistakes, but you can still cherry pick which of these users you agree with in terms of their ideas/concepts/opinions on a particular topic, giving their merit weight. Furthermore, this does not only apply to Chipmixer participants, but also to other signature campaign participants that have demonstrated their contribution and quality post over time.

Thanks for quoting my post and I learned a lot from your perspective.

CryptopreneurBrainboss

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Quote from: Maus0728 on July 31, 2021, 04:57:31 AM

At some point, you can also tell if a user has an interesting post when the merit they received comes from these Chipmixer participant regardless of their rank. Well, maybe I'm using Chipmixer as a measuring tool too much to see if the user is making sense or just posting nonsense if they are being merited by these guys.

That's a wrong way to look at it. Not trying to discredit chipmixer participate merits but don't forget the participants there are humans and might not always be right. This is just like meriting certain users because they're part of a well known campaign. An argument could be since the post wasn't a spam, it did deserve the merit (not minding the weight of merit) it got but neglecting the other users that put in some effort into their contributions is where I have an issue with.

For example I have been merited for my contribution while neglecting the users ahead of me. While you could say that, those user post wasn't as informative as mind but provided they did put in some effort and wasn't spamming, they deserve some encouragement.

Meriting me just because I have been known for my contribution isn't want the merits system was introduced for. You're to merit any worth post not minding the users history or reputation on the forum. Such act encourage more new members to put effort into their post and not get discourage with the whole myth of forum favoring certain members.

JillianTaft

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Honestly, I think it will still have an impact. Subconsciously feel that old users are more convincing. After all, the things that old users put into the forum are all accumulated over the years. The legends and hero logos prove their contribution to the community, so for me, I think what old users say may have more influence than new users.

Nora Olin

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Activity: 154

Merit: 11

I only look at the content in the post. Although some are newbies, their content is really valuable, but I can only say that the old members are more familiar and more active. They are passionate about helping others solve problems. I just joined the forum. This was the most exciting moment when I first gained merit. I feel approved.

XUNing

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Activity: 73

Merit: 10

At the beginning I will read more heroes and legendary posts. Their posts are rich in content and high quality. I can learn a lot from them. But recently I have seen a lot of high-quality and innovative posts. Their grades are not high, but their posts have a lot to learn from. So I think there is no level in the forum. Many people will pay attention to whether the published content is worthy of others to discuss and learn. As long as it is helpful to others and contributes to the forum, it is worth discovering.

Connor Britton

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In fact, at the beginning, I only dared to read the posts posted by others, but did not dare to reply, because I was a newbie in the forum, and I was afraid of replying or posting errors, and no one would read my replies or posts. When I muster the courage to reply to a post, someone will not reply to me because I am a novice. Everyone feels like friends. I think there is no hierarchy. Everyone can post and reply.
Many people think that what the hero says is credible, and the same topic still has the weight of the hero. I will look at everyone's topics.

Wendy Simth

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Quote from: UserU on July 31, 2021, 06:40:50 AM

Quote from: defi-Dany on July 31, 2021, 02:32:06 AM

Low-level members need time to advance to senior members. There is always a process where low-level members publish high-quality articles, right?

Of course, some have quickly rose the ranks because of those. But you don't have to go that route if you prefer to take it slow and steady. For me, I'd just participate in discussions at my own pace and if people like them or find them helpful, they Merit.

The forum has become selfless and beautiful because there are many people who think like you.
It is priceless to contribute your words and deeds to bring value to others.
Many people in the forum are very enthusiastic about helping others, which is why I started to like to come here.

defi-Dany

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Quote from: UserU on July 31, 2021, 06:40:50 AM

Quote from: defi-Dany on July 31, 2021, 02:32:06 AM

Low-level members need time to advance to senior members. There is always a process where low-level members publish high-quality articles, right?

Of course, some have quickly rose the ranks because of those. But you don't have to go that route if you prefer to take it slow and steady. For me, I'd just participate in discussions at my own pace and if people like them or find them helpful, they Merit.

I agree with you. I also think so. Pay attention to your rhythm and don't care too much about ranking. If it is gold, it will shine everywhere.
If you do something that contributes to the forum, even newbies will get attention.

nakamura12

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I pay attention to both rank and content. As mentioned in the first page in this thread that there are higher rank forum users who reach that rank when there is no merit implemented which is many yeara ago. I am sure you are aware that merit is implemented on January 2018 which I should be ranked up to jr. member but failed to since I am 2 activity points needed to rank up and yet merit is implemented. At this time, no matter how low your rank is if you post high, good quality posts then you are most likely get attention and get merited becsuse of it as long as the content is yours to start with and it is not plagiarised.

decodx

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Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

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No, I won't pay much attention to the forum rank. As already mentioned, there are newbies who make quality posts and there are legends who make shitty posts.

However, I am more interested in the posts of members I know. Over time, you begin to remember some names and they remain in your memory as quality members. I will always read their posts in full, while most others I skim over.

Alisha-k

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Your rank has nothing to do with getting reaction from users if your content is worth the time, either solving a problem, giving new ideas, answered someone's question then you should get the required merit that is due for your posts. I doubt if the forum users are bias. Every one gets what the deserve

worle1bm

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Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

I will have an unconscious admiration for legends, and feel that what they say makes more sense, even newbies say the same thing.
I want to know if you guys feel this way Cheesy

Not feel the same because I have seen some newbies who have registered here on the forum this year only and now they have received enough merits for full and even senior rank also but lag only activity.So if any member were ignored or not being merited was the mainly because of low quality post and not constructive post has been made.The merit system was introduced by theymos with the aim of improving qaulity posting on the forum.Remember legendary and hero members were also newbies at some point.If you think your post was good but was not able to get merits report it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56430959

Daily many posts are being made on every sub-board and it's not easy to have a look at all of them by merit sources and members but still you can get some merits if post is worthy or you can report it.
You only need dedication and improve your posting style and will get merits automatically and once you are on track you will carry on. Don't ever feel demotivated.

kaggie

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Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

I will have an unconscious admiration for legends, and feel that what they say makes more sense, even newbies say the same thing.
I want to know if you guys feel this way Cheesy

Satoshi was a pseudonym, an unknown character, with no known titles or degrees,
no known previous experience, nothing verifiable, who used little monetary resources to start,
and was probably one person.

And yet, here we all are, based on this one unknown person's work.

That should tell you something about your own potential (and how high it is), the (lack of) need for grades,
and who you might want to pay attention to. Wink

pawanjain

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Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

I will have an unconscious admiration for legends, and feel that what they say makes more sense, even newbies say the same thing.
I want to know if you guys feel this way Cheesy

They may say the same the thing but it is how they portray and make their post constructive.
I have observed many times that while Newbies describe a particular topic the high ranked/high merited users portray the same message more constructively.
I guess this is why they receive more attention than Newbies. That's my perspective and I may be wrong as well.
But as far as you are giving out good content you will surely receive attention from the old members on this forum.

UserU

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Quote from: defi-Dany on July 31, 2021, 02:32:06 AM

Low-level members need time to advance to senior members. There is always a process where low-level members publish high-quality articles, right?

Of course, some have quickly rose the ranks because of those. But you don't have to go that route if you prefer to take it slow and steady. For me, I'd just participate in discussions at my own pace and if people like them or find them helpful, they Merit.

Magicalking

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I pay more attention to names than rank. I think the rank is symbolic and signifies the level of knowledge one has about cryptocurrency. Newbie - Jr Member: as the name suggest is 90% of the time a newcomer to crypto, forum and does not know what to do. Hero - Legendary members have loads of knowledge and wisdsom to share.

Maus0728

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1563

This may appear to be completely biased, but regardless of whether they are a former participant or not, I usually look at the signature they are wearing, especially if it is "Chipmixer." I mean, it is obvious that in every section of this forum, there is always some chipmixer participant (old or new) who can offer an interesting concept/idea on that specific topic.

At some point, you can also tell if a user has an interesting post when the merit they received comes from these Chipmixer participant regardless of their rank. Well, maybe I'm using Chipmixer as a measuring tool too much to see if the user is making sense or just posting nonsense if they are being merited by these guys.

defi-Dany

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Quote from: pooya87 on July 30, 2021, 12:27:06 AM

It is the other way around meaning people ignore low quality posts or treat them negatively and also the user making such posts will always be low rank. It is also extremely rare to see a low rank member make a high quality post because if they did they wouldn't remain low rank for long.

Low-level members need time to advance to senior members. There is always a process where low-level members publish high-quality articles, right?

defi-Dany

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on July 30, 2021, 02:30:29 AM

Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

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Probably, when one accesses the forum for the first few days/weeks, one may be more inclined to view with more eagerness what higher ranked accounts such as Legendary members state. After all, they do have a bunch of shinny coins under their username and rank, and with a rank named Legendary, they must have been made so for a reason, right?

When you wade the waters of the forum, after a while, you get to know who’s whow to a certain degree, and which profiles you trust more on their comments than others. Granted many of these are Legendary ranks, which comes as a derivate of the time dedicated to/on the forum, but there are also plenty of respectable profiles bearing all sort of ranks, some of which make a mark from the very beginning (careful with the traps though).

Letting the glitter of the coins aside, and numbing the pompous connotation that some of the rank names have (top two ranks are a bit pretentious), you’re left with the posts and the content, and that is what eventually matters, regardless of the rank.

Recently, I have spent a lot of time browsing the forum and found that there are a few legendary friends who are willing to help newcomers and are very active in the forum. I respect them very much. I remembered a few names: Ratimov, Loycev, Crytocurencyking, fillippone, Mk4, pooya87, DdmrDdmr, hugeblack...They can always point out the problem sharply.They deserve it.
Thank you for your suggestions, I will try my best to pay attention to the quality of my posts.

Darker45

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There may be a little bias, but I guess the content prevails. However, especially when it comes to long posts about not-so-interesting subjects, I might end up skipping to the conclusion part to avoid the lengthy ramble. For example, I normally would just disregard a long tutorial thread created by a newbie.

But I guess ranks don't matter that much if a particular user is truly a constructive poster. The first and second time he/she drops a brilliant post, he/she might not yet catch the attention of other users. But if a pattern is already created, a different level of treatment would certainly follow. In other words, it's not really the rank but the post quality. Admiration or treatment is earned. I myself am a legend but I'm probably not as admired as many low-rank members.

hatshepsut93

legendary

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Merit: 2148

I'm firstly biased about nicknames. If it's a user that I know for writing good posts, I would be much more likely to read their reply compared to a completely unknown person or a user that writes posts that might be boring/too long/or just not agreeable to me. There are Legendaries with lots of earned merit whose posts I often skip because of the mentioned factors. And on the other hand, I very quickly notice newbies with good posts, even if they have very little earned merit, and would always read their posts when I encounter them.

It may seem that this forum is very active, but actually I feel like at least 50% posts in sections that I read are made by the same 30-50 users, so by just spending a little time on this forum you will start recognizing people rather quickly.

Findingnemo

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Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

I will have an unconscious admiration for legends, and feel that what they say makes more sense, even newbies say the same thing.
I want to know if you guys feel this way Cheesy

Frankly, I see that there is some kind of bias among the fellow community members based on their reputation and newbies are not get the equal treatment here. But I would stay as neutral as possible while reading and replying to their posts but I would think multiple times when I am going to merit them.

acroman08

legendary

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Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

I will have an unconscious admiration for legends, and feel that what they say makes more sense, even newbies say the same thing.
I want to know if you guys feel this way Cheesy

I am not gonna lie that I tend to pay more attention or read threads that are made by higher-ranking members may it be high quality or not than newbies. I am also not gonna lie that there are new members creating great threads that should be paid attention to. I feel like the reason why there are members who take threads created by high-ranking members seriously is that there are a lot of threads created by newbies that are just copy/pasted and hoping to get merit from it.

qwertyup23

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Quote from: mk4 on July 29, 2021, 11:57:37 PM

If I had any bias towards members, it would most definitely towards their received merit rather than their rank specifically. There are a good number of people here that has a Senior/Hero/Legendary rank, but is only acquired before the merit system; with them having little to no received merit.

Newbies with received merit > Senior/Hero/Legendary members with little to no received merit

I definitely agree with your statement.

I think the differential in treatment is focused more on the merits earned rather than the ranking of the forum members. Remember that some of the legendary users in the forum ranked up before the merit system was introduced. All of the high ranking members who started in this forum after the implementation of the merit system deserve all the recognition and praise as they literally climbed their way up to the forum.

Like what mk4 mentioned, if there are any biases, it would be to users who earned a significant amount of merits on a relatively short of amount of time.

Maxine4466

newbie

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Merit: 10

Personally, although I am a novice, I prefer to read articles by legend/hero members. Their posts are generally of high quality, so I won’t waste too much time sifting through them.
But I have to say that there are many topics with new members that are also meaningful, but only a few.

Jazmin Leslie

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Quote from: pooya87 on July 30, 2021, 12:27:06 AM

It is the other way around meaning people ignore low quality posts or treat them negatively and also the user making such posts will always be low rank. It is also extremely rare to see a low rank member make a high quality post because if they did they wouldn't remain low rank for long.

I think what you said is reasonable.

If it is high-quality posting content, he will definitely get a lot of achievements, but if he joins the forum now, even if he is a very high-quality poster in a short time, he should also need to be in the community. Only after publishing your own content for a period of time can it be discovered by others.

I think I did not look at the level first when I read the post. If you look at the level first, then you will lose the original intention of coming to this forum. I am here to find good content to learn,Whether it's a newcomer or an old user's posting, it has nothing to do with me.I have seen many legends post some low-quality posts, so paying attention to the content is the most important thing. Grin

Lucius

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Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

~snip~

As others have already written, the fact that someone has a Legendary rank should not automatically mean that you should look at their posts in a different way than others. But every newbie probably has a similar opinion as you, as in real life everyone respects and admires above all the titles that people have earned in an honest but also dishonest way.

I believe we all respect doctors, even though we all know there are good and bad ones among them - just as most respect politicians (or rather fear their power), even though we know they are mostly incompetent or corrupt. You can respect each member regardless of their rank, but over time you will realize who stands out more than others.

GeorgeJohn

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What i understand from you is inferior issue or problem, actually whenever newbies join the community and see the higher rank user composition or response to a topic they feel inferior whenever they see a senior colleagues post, in here it' doesn't determine by the rank, what is really necessary is the ability to make a tangible contribution, for you to be like those legends you're emphasising on, op, you have to devote your time to the community and make some research on your own, at time's in certain post some new users contribution might be meaningful than the old users contribution... it's cause base on your intellectual capability to decode or understand what's the writer means or provide the solution to the problem of a writer.

DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: defi-Dany on July 29, 2021, 10:32:52 PM

<…>

Probably, when one accesses the forum for the first few days/weeks, one may be more inclined to view with more eagerness what higher ranked accounts such as Legendary members state. After all, they do have a bunch of shinny coins under their username and rank, and with a rank named Legendary, they must have been made so for a reason, right?

When you wade the waters of the forum, after a while, you get to know who’s whow to a certain degree, and which profiles you trust more on their comments than others. Granted many of these are Legendary ranks, which comes as a derivate of the time dedicated to/on the forum, but there are also plenty of respectable profiles bearing all sort of ranks, some of which make a mark from the very beginning (careful with the traps though).

Letting the glitter of the coins aside, and numbing the pompous connotation that some of the rank names have (top two ranks are a bit pretentious), you’re left with the posts and the content, and that is what eventually matters, regardless of the rank.

isaac_clarke22

sr. member

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Nah, OP. If you were reading around the forum a little bit, you'll notice this newbie ranked account that posted couple of articles by his own. It is kind of long and that is the only issue I had.
[Check out RainbowKun's article to see if forums really need depth knowledge.]

TheNineClub

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I think it does have an effect on the surface, or at a first glance when you look at the post, but at the end, it's the message and info that's being conveyed, not the person who conveys it. But id be lying if I say it didn't have any sway in the matter.

pooya87

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It is the other way around meaning people ignore low quality posts or treat them negatively and also the user making such posts will always be low rank. It is also extremely rare to see a low rank member make a high quality post because if they did they wouldn't remain low rank for long.

mk4

legendary

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If I had any bias towards members, it would most definitely towards their received merit rather than their rank specifically. There are a good number of people here that has a Senior/Hero/Legendary rank, but is only acquired before the merit system; with them having little to no received merit.

Newbies with received merit > Senior/Hero/Legendary members with little to no received merit

defi-Dany

jr. member

Activity: 42

Merit: 18

I will have an unconscious admiration for legends, and feel that what they say makes more sense, even newbies say the same thing.
I want to know if you guys feel this way Cheesy

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