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newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
June 21, 2013, 05:17:39 AM
#12
Hi,
Is it still worthy for a new comer to invest in mining. I'm thinking about ASIC (not GPU or FPGA). But will I make any return on investment, let alone profit?
Any estimates on what difficulty will be in the next few months - early next year ?
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
June 21, 2013, 03:14:50 AM
#11
Mining is currently a level field for all, rich or poor. Even if and when Bitcoin becomes big enough to spawn specialized mining firms who develop proprietary ASICs for exclusive self-mining, you could still participate by means of a mining co-operative or a publicly traded company, or a partnership...

Except for ASICMiner, Avalon, BFL, (possibly KNCMiner, Bitfury in future). The companies that developed the first ASIC chips are doing very well for themselves. The old adage remains true, in a Gold Rush only the shovel sellers make good.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
June 20, 2013, 07:21:24 PM
#10
Could go up or down.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty

estimated difficulty: 19425017.67711388

Huh
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
June 20, 2013, 07:16:42 PM
#9
Yep, mining difficulty rises exponentially.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
June 20, 2013, 06:51:54 PM
#8
I only started a mining a month ago and difficulty has gone from 12 to 19.3 in that short period.

Will difficulty rise so quickly that single GPU miner's  like me will have no profit all? Especially when ASICS become widely available. I only started as an experiment.

Soon only the rich will be able to mine - Ah capitalism!

Yep, watch in 3 years all mining is going to be done by big corporations.
vip
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1043
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June 20, 2013, 06:50:03 PM
#7
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Your thinking is flawed. If I invest 500 dollars into mining hardware, I might realize X% return over say one year. If I invest 5000 dollars into same hardware, I will be realizing the same X% return over the same period. Sure, vendors provide a certain discount for higher-priced hardware, but this is insignificant compared to other variables and unknowns, plus is easily addressed by buying shares in a large  mining operation.

No, you realize x - difficulty increase of your new hardware% return.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
June 20, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
#6
This is a natural result of the appearance of mining ASICs.  ASICs are so much faster than GPUs that soon GPUs will be unprofitable.  I would not buy a GPU specifically for bitcoin mining any more, you need FPGAs or ASICs to compete in this bitcoin economy.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 501
There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.
June 20, 2013, 06:40:28 PM
#5
I only started a mining a month ago and difficulty has gone from 12 to 19.3 in that short period.

Will difficulty rise so quickly that single GPU miner's  like me will have no profit all? Especially when ASICS become widely available. I only started as an experiment.

Soon only the rich will be able to mine - Ah capitalism!
Your thinking is flawed. If I invest 500 dollars into mining hardware, I might realize X% return over say one year. If I invest 5000 dollars into same hardware, I will be realizing the same X% return over the same period. Sure, vendors provide a certain discount for higher-priced hardware, but this is insignificant compared to other variables and unknowns, plus is easily addressed by buying shares in a large  mining operation.

Mining is currently a level field for all, rich or poor. Even if and when Bitcoin becomes big enough to spawn specialized mining firms who develop proprietary ASICs for exclusive self-mining, you could still participate by means of a mining co-operative or a publicly traded company, or a partnership...
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 4801
June 20, 2013, 06:28:09 PM
#4
Will difficulty rise so quickly that single GPU miner's  like me will have no profit all?

I would certainly expect so.

A more interesting question is: "How long until the fastest and most efficient ASIC today are no longer profitable to run?
I'd guess less than 5 years.

5 year... yeah, no.

How many years did it take for CPUs to become unprofitable?

Once CPUs were unprofitable, how much longer did it take for the early GPUs to become unprofitable?

Now that GPUs are becoming unprofitable why would you think it would take more than 5 years for today's ASIC to become unprofitable?
hero member
Activity: 495
Merit: 507
June 20, 2013, 06:24:47 PM
#3
Will difficulty rise so quickly that single GPU miner's  like me will have no profit all?

I would certainly expect so.

A more interesting question is: "How long until the fastest and most efficient ASIC today are no longer profitable to run?
I'd guess less than 5 years.

5 year... yeah, no.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 4801
June 20, 2013, 06:17:34 PM
#2
Will difficulty rise so quickly that single GPU miner's  like me will have no profit all?

I would certainly expect so.

A more interesting question is: "How long until the fastest and most efficient ASIC today are no longer profitable to run?
I'd guess less than 5 years.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
June 20, 2013, 06:08:34 PM
#1
I only started a mining a month ago and difficulty has gone from 12 to 19.3 in that short period.

Will difficulty rise so quickly that single GPU miner's  like me will have no profit all? Especially when ASICS become widely available. I only started as an experiment.

Soon only the rich will be able to mine - Ah capitalism!
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