I like the Strongcoin API because everything is already set up for digital goods distribution. It's all already coded. I'd need to add stuff like seller logins and control panels for uploading files, etc, but the base code is all set up, which is awesome.
You can use the StrongCoin micro-payment system together with those other sites for payment notifications, you'd only need to change a few lines to make it work. No fees!
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I like the Strongcoin API because everything is already set up for digital goods distribution. It's all already coded. I'd need to add stuff like seller logins and control panels for uploading files, etc, but the base code is all set up, which is awesome.
You can use the StrongCoin micro-payment system together with those other sites for payment notifications, you'd only need to change a few lines to make it work. No fees! So, looking at the Strongcoin idea more seriously... (the ubitious requires a VPS or better with Ubuntu installed, whereas Strongcoin does not).
The fee is a modest 1% for using the Strongcoin API. I think that is more than reasonable.
Biggest issue is, it seems to wait for a certain number of confirmations before the API sends a response of "paid". I don't know about you, but if I'm a customer that wants to download goods, I don't want to have to leave a browser window open for an hour to wait for 6 confirmations to go through before I get a notice that I can download the file.
0-conf would be perfect for this sort of system. Yeah, a few people would figure out ways to scam it, etc, but those people probably wouldn't pay for the goods in question to begin with anyway, so it's kind of a moot point.
Question is, is there any way to get the Strongcoin API to reply with a 0-conf status instead of waiting for a certain number of confirmations?
I'll be contacting the folks at Strongcoin to find the answer to that question.
You don't have to use Strongcoin's API. I'd opt to use something like bitcoinmonitor.net, or bitping.net.The fee is a modest 1% for using the Strongcoin API. I think that is more than reasonable.
Biggest issue is, it seems to wait for a certain number of confirmations before the API sends a response of "paid". I don't know about you, but if I'm a customer that wants to download goods, I don't want to have to leave a browser window open for an hour to wait for 6 confirmations to go through before I get a notice that I can download the file.
0-conf would be perfect for this sort of system. Yeah, a few people would figure out ways to scam it, etc, but those people probably wouldn't pay for the goods in question to begin with anyway, so it's kind of a moot point.
Question is, is there any way to get the Strongcoin API to reply with a 0-conf status instead of waiting for a certain number of confirmations?
I'll be contacting the folks at Strongcoin to find the answer to that question.
So, looking at the Strongcoin idea more seriously... (the ubitious requires a VPS or better with Ubuntu installed, whereas Strongcoin does not).
The fee is a modest 1% for using the Strongcoin API. I think that is more than reasonable.
Biggest issue is, it seems to wait for a certain number of confirmations before the API sends a response of "paid". I don't know about you, but if I'm a customer that wants to download goods, I don't want to have to leave a browser window open for an hour to wait for 6 confirmations to go through before I get a notice that I can download the file.
0-conf would be perfect for this sort of system. Yeah, a few people would figure out ways to scam it, etc, but those people probably wouldn't pay for the goods in question to begin with anyway, so it's kind of a moot point.
Question is, is there any way to get the Strongcoin API to reply with a 0-conf status instead of waiting for a certain number of confirmations?
I'll be contacting the folks at Strongcoin to find the answer to that question.
You don't have to use Strongcoin's API. I'd opt to use something like bitcoinmonitor.net, or bitping.net. The fee is a modest 1% for using the Strongcoin API. I think that is more than reasonable.
Biggest issue is, it seems to wait for a certain number of confirmations before the API sends a response of "paid". I don't know about you, but if I'm a customer that wants to download goods, I don't want to have to leave a browser window open for an hour to wait for 6 confirmations to go through before I get a notice that I can download the file.
0-conf would be perfect for this sort of system. Yeah, a few people would figure out ways to scam it, etc, but those people probably wouldn't pay for the goods in question to begin with anyway, so it's kind of a moot point.
Question is, is there any way to get the Strongcoin API to reply with a 0-conf status instead of waiting for a certain number of confirmations?
I'll be contacting the folks at Strongcoin to find the answer to that question.
That makes sense Spike.
Probably my first idea there would be best done by just having an existing host add "gate this file with BTC".
Definitely! It's not a bad business model, just not one that I'd like to pursue. A bit more involved than I'd like, I guess.Probably my first idea there would be best done by just having an existing host add "gate this file with BTC".
EDIT: Also, as an anwer to my above questions, Strongcoin's API DOES send a response at 0-conf, which means something is wrong with their demo page. I'm working with them to find out what.
That makes sense Spike.
Probably my first idea there would be best done by just having an existing host add "gate this file with BTC".
Probably my first idea there would be best done by just having an existing host add "gate this file with BTC".
So, looking at the Strongcoin idea more seriously... (the ubitious requires a VPS or better with Ubuntu installed, whereas Strongcoin does not).
The fee is a modest 1% for using the Strongcoin API. I think that is more than reasonable.
Biggest issue is, it seems to wait for a certain number of confirmations before the API sends a response of "paid". I don't know about you, but if I'm a customer that wants to download goods, I don't want to have to leave a browser window open for an hour to wait for 6 confirmations to go through before I get a notice that I can download the file.
0-conf would be perfect for this sort of system. Yeah, a few people would figure out ways to scam it, etc, but those people probably wouldn't pay for the goods in question to begin with anyway, so it's kind of a moot point.
Question is, is there any way to get the Strongcoin API to reply with a 0-conf status instead of waiting for a certain number of confirmations?
I'll be contacting the folks at Strongcoin to find the answer to that question.
The fee is a modest 1% for using the Strongcoin API. I think that is more than reasonable.
Biggest issue is, it seems to wait for a certain number of confirmations before the API sends a response of "paid". I don't know about you, but if I'm a customer that wants to download goods, I don't want to have to leave a browser window open for an hour to wait for 6 confirmations to go through before I get a notice that I can download the file.
0-conf would be perfect for this sort of system. Yeah, a few people would figure out ways to scam it, etc, but those people probably wouldn't pay for the goods in question to begin with anyway, so it's kind of a moot point.
Question is, is there any way to get the Strongcoin API to reply with a 0-conf status instead of waiting for a certain number of confirmations?
I'll be contacting the folks at Strongcoin to find the answer to that question.
This doesn't look anything like what I was talking about. It doesn't look like you can sell files, and apparently costs money to get an account to download things? But thanks for the suggestion anyhow.
There's already plenty of sites that offer free file hosting - why would someone choose mine? And I wouldn't like pressuring the digital goods sellers into paying the hosting fees of the free content either - I'd rather see them get as high a percentage cut of their asking price as possible.
I wouldn't be looking for traffic on the site just by people going to the site itself. Most traffic would be generated from the sellers' sites. Kind of like bit-pay. No one goes to bit-pay to see what's for sale. They reach bit-pay as a payment processor for whatever they are buying from the seller's site. I'd like to see a site operate in the same manner, but for digital goods. Maybe go a step further and have a catalog of everything for sale for people who are interested in looking at such things, but beyond that, it would be the seller's responsibility to drive traffic to their goods on the site.
I don't think your idea is bad, but it just doesn't seem to differentiate itself enough from the many sites already out there that do the same thing. Megaupload is shut down, but there's dozens more free file sharing sites that serve the same purpose.
The model I'm thinking of might be risky and not good, but here it is.
You let people put stuff up for free and download for free, this will get you a big base.
You let people charge if they want and take a decent cut out of it, more than the bandwidth costs you covering for all the free hosting you do.
If the free is getting to be too much you could limit how much free a user can get, maybe they pay for a premium account which gives them all the 'free' they want.
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A different way would just to provide the plumbing and no audience and nothing for free and take a very small cut. But I think this model will be fairly easy to copy and it'll just be a matter of who can provide cheapest bandwidth. But still there would be some first to market advantage.
Eh, I don't like it. You let people put stuff up for free and download for free, this will get you a big base.
You let people charge if they want and take a decent cut out of it, more than the bandwidth costs you covering for all the free hosting you do.
If the free is getting to be too much you could limit how much free a user can get, maybe they pay for a premium account which gives them all the 'free' they want.
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A different way would just to provide the plumbing and no audience and nothing for free and take a very small cut. But I think this model will be fairly easy to copy and it'll just be a matter of who can provide cheapest bandwidth. But still there would be some first to market advantage.
There's already plenty of sites that offer free file hosting - why would someone choose mine? And I wouldn't like pressuring the digital goods sellers into paying the hosting fees of the free content either - I'd rather see them get as high a percentage cut of their asking price as possible.I wouldn't be looking for traffic on the site just by people going to the site itself. Most traffic would be generated from the sellers' sites. Kind of like bit-pay. No one goes to bit-pay to see what's for sale. They reach bit-pay as a payment processor for whatever they are buying from the seller's site. I'd like to see a site operate in the same manner, but for digital goods. Maybe go a step further and have a catalog of everything for sale for people who are interested in looking at such things, but beyond that, it would be the seller's responsibility to drive traffic to their goods on the site.
I don't think your idea is bad, but it just doesn't seem to differentiate itself enough from the many sites already out there that do the same thing. Megaupload is shut down, but there's dozens more free file sharing sites that serve the same purpose.
The model I'm thinking of might be risky and not good, but here it is.
You let people put stuff up for free and download for free, this will get you a big base.
You let people charge if they want and take a decent cut out of it, more than the bandwidth costs you covering for all the free hosting you do.
If the free is getting to be too much you could limit how much free a user can get, maybe they pay for a premium account which gives them all the 'free' they want.
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A different way would just to provide the plumbing and no audience and nothing for free and take a very small cut. But I think this model will be fairly easy to copy and it'll just be a matter of who can provide cheapest bandwidth. But still there would be some first to market advantage.
You let people put stuff up for free and download for free, this will get you a big base.
You let people charge if they want and take a decent cut out of it, more than the bandwidth costs you covering for all the free hosting you do.
If the free is getting to be too much you could limit how much free a user can get, maybe they pay for a premium account which gives them all the 'free' they want.
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A different way would just to provide the plumbing and no audience and nothing for free and take a very small cut. But I think this model will be fairly easy to copy and it'll just be a matter of who can provide cheapest bandwidth. But still there would be some first to market advantage.
Both of those look like very promising applications. I'll check them out in more detail later on...
Sounds like ubitio.us does exactly what I want already, but it doesn't make mention of what the commissions are, etc.
Sounds like ubitio.us does exactly what I want already, but it doesn't make mention of what the commissions are, etc.
iirc it has few features and high commissions, but since it is open source maybe you could add features, promote, get high volume and charge less.
I don't think it had search of any kind, you had to be linked or go through every item, and even had to modify the url to do that.
Maybe that's not the purpose though and I'm thinking of a different kind of site. A site with lots of various content but with some of it for pay.
Oh, another good feature to have is "open this for everyone when X BTC is paid to 1j4kju..."
Open to everyone would be interesting, but again, would require a way to pay for all the bandwidth required to host large files and give them to anyone who wanted them. That would mean pages full of advertisements, pop-up ads, etc. Not really sure I'd want to go that route... those sites always bugged me. One option might be to "fund" an address with more than required to allow free downloads to others. So if someone wants to host a 1GB file, and let it be downloaded for free by 100 people, then they could "fund" the address with 0.1 BTC (or something), and for each download, 0.001 BTC would be deducted. And anyone could fund the account. Kind of like the Bitcoin Faucet, but for downloads instead.
*shrug*
Both of those look like very promising applications. I'll check them out in more detail later on...
Sounds like ubitio.us does exactly what I want already, but it doesn't make mention of what the commissions are, etc.
Sounds like ubitio.us does exactly what I want already, but it doesn't make mention of what the commissions are, etc.
iirc it has few features and high commissions, but since it is open source maybe you could add features, promote, get high volume and charge less.
I don't think it had search of any kind, you had to be linked or go through every item, and even had to modify the url to do that.
Maybe that's not the purpose though and I'm thinking of a different kind of site. A site with lots of various content but with some of it for pay.
Oh, another good feature to have is "open this for everyone when X BTC is paid to 1j4kju..."
Both of those look like very promising applications. I'll check them out in more detail later on...
Sounds like ubitio.us does exactly what I want already, but it doesn't make mention of what the commissions are, etc.
Sounds like ubitio.us does exactly what I want already, but it doesn't make mention of what the commissions are, etc.
Does StrongCoin's MicroPayments serve your need?
- https://strongcoin.com/blog/bitcoin_micropayments_with_strongcoin
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52849.0;all
Example:
- http://strongdemo.herokuapp.com/
You are on your own for the hosting though.
Ubitious does digital goods sales / hosting:
- http://ubitio.us
- https://strongcoin.com/blog/bitcoin_micropayments_with_strongcoin
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52849.0;all
Example:
- http://strongdemo.herokuapp.com/
You are on your own for the hosting though.
Ubitious does digital goods sales / hosting:
- http://ubitio.us
Here's the wiki list that I know of...
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade
Only one site is listed under payment processors, and that's bit-pay (who does not currently offer or plan to offer a digital goods hosting and download service).
I can't find anything else related to what I am looking for on the site either...
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade
Only one site is listed under payment processors, and that's bit-pay (who does not currently offer or plan to offer a digital goods hosting and download service).
I can't find anything else related to what I am looking for on the site either...
Well did you check the list(s) of bitcoin businesses? Or did they get vandalised off the wikis or something? There used to be a bunch of third party sites listing bitcoin businesses too not just the wiki.
Maybe though if they no logner appear on such lists its because they closed down, and if they did one might wonder why before jumping into the niche they chose to vacate...
-MarkM-
Maybe though if they no logner appear on such lists its because they closed down, and if they did one might wonder why before jumping into the niche they chose to vacate...
-MarkM-
I don't know markm. I haven't heard of any such services - that's why I started this thread, to find them!
Are the services that used to do that no longer operating? I know there was at least one, but thought there were two or more?
-MarkM-
-MarkM-
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