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Topic: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether ! - page 354. (Read 759883 times)

member
Activity: 117
Merit: 10
It's also possible for you to manipulate "SHA256 cryptographic algorithm". SHA = Secret Hash Algorithm? What a fucking joke.

Perhaps you can tell us how ?

First off, you created it (or contracted someone to create it for you).

Publish the algorithm.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1002
Have a questions about loyalty programm.
1. How bets coefficients is taked stock when loyality points are awarded? For exampe, i can bet 0,1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 or 3,1 and i have 1 point in both variant?! If so, then it is unfair. because i can make to many bets with coefficient 1,1 with a little risk than with coefficient 3,1.
Some books give you less loyalty points or smaller rewards, if at all, when you bet on the big favorites.
We don't do that. We award you with the same great reward, the highest reward in the industry, whether you bet on the heavy favorite or the underdog.
This is to your advantage ! We don't want to reduce the rewards for those who prefer to bet on the favorites.
But this is unfair. It is too easy made 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 than 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 3,1 for same loyality point.
Why i must make 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 if this is not my bets stratagy? But i want loyality point..... Conditions should be equal for all users.....For example some guy can easy made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month, because he bet on favorite. But i cant made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month because i bet on underdogs and have more risk. We are not on an equal footing with your rules. His stratagy is easier to get points. I hope you understand me.
I understand your point.
However, note that our VIP Rewards Program is already the most rewarding in the industry. We're basically giving to our most frequent bettors up to 1% of their bets stake back.
What that means is that we can't offer more. That's already the maximum. So if we want to apply your suggestion, we would have to give less rewards to those who bet on the favorite and the exact same rewards to those who bet on the underdogs. It wouldn't make any difference for you. You will still earn the same, but it will negatively affect those who bet on the favorites, they will get less.
The bottom line is that you're already receiving the maximum reward we can give so changing the terms will not earn you extra rewards.
Its unfair. You dont understand me.  And these system of reward is not interesting for people who bets on underdog. They never return 1% of their bets stake back with that rules, as you think. Dont reduce anything, dont increase anything. But make an equitable redistribution of reward! To do this, the bet should be multiplied by the coefficient. Now we have 1 point for each 0,1 LTC. We must have, for example,  1 point for each 0,1 LTC of the potential gains of the bet.  I'm not saying that this should be so. But there must be changes. Mb not 1 point, mb 0,5 point, but for potential gains of the bet.
I thought your site is good designed. But your rule is unfair. Bwin has such loyality programm for sports bet as you. They do not award points for the low rates, and calculate reward point with the potential gain rather than the entire bet! If the rules of loyality programm would not changed you lost a customer in my face and other people who play on underdogers...
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Been using your site and like it a lot. Do you offer college basketball?  I couldn't find tomorrow's games. Thanks.

Yes we do. Please check back later closer to the events start time.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
It's also possible for you to manipulate "SHA256 cryptographic algorithm". SHA = Secret Hash Algorithm? What a fucking joke.

Perhaps you can tell us how ?
full member
Activity: 157
Merit: 100
Been using your site and like it a lot. Do you offer college basketball?  I couldn't find tomorrow's games. Thanks.
member
Activity: 117
Merit: 10
It's also possible for you to manipulate "SHA256 cryptographic algorithm". SHA = Secret Hash Algorithm? What a fucking joke.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Now you are publishing the secret hash before bets are received. Good. No one has taken advantage of this, because as stated before, it is impossible to manipulate the transaction ID generated by the blockchain.

So I must ask, why is the secret hash just now being revealed before the bet is received? Why hasn't this been the case all along?

We always presented to the players the secret hashed before the roll of the dice, as part of the provably fair verification.

This has been the case all along since the first day Direct Dice was offered.

Note that we are not showing the secret but rather the hashed secret. I think you're confusing between the two.

We can not reveal the secret before the dice is rolled because this will allow you to know in advance the outcome of the roll as it is possible to manipulate the transaction ID. Therefore, we scramble the secret in a special technique called hashing using SHA256 cryptographic algorithm and present the hashed secret in the Bet Status page. The only way to reproduce the hashed secret is by hashing the original secret. Later on, after the game is over, you can reveal the original secret used, and you will be able to hash it yourself and verify that the result is identical to the hashed secret presented to you before the roll of the dice. This will prove that we did indeed used the secret that was designated to your bet.

Please refer to http://www.directbet.eu/Rules.cshtml#Dice for more details and let me know if you have any more questions.
member
Activity: 117
Merit: 10
Now you are publishing the secret hash before bets are received. Good. No one has taken advantage of this, because as stated before, it is impossible to manipulate the transaction ID generated by the blockchain.

So I must ask, why is the secret hash just now being revealed before the bet is received? Why hasn't this been the case all along?
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Have a questions about loyalty programm.
1. How bets coefficients is taked stock when loyality points are awarded? For exampe, i can bet 0,1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 or 3,1 and i have 1 point in both variant?! If so, then it is unfair. because i can make to many bets with coefficient 1,1 with a little risk than with coefficient 3,1.
Some books give you less loyalty points or smaller rewards, if at all, when you bet on the big favorites.
We don't do that. We award you with the same great reward, the highest reward in the industry, whether you bet on the heavy favorite or the underdog.
This is to your advantage ! We don't want to reduce the rewards for those who prefer to bet on the favorites.
But this is unfair. It is too easy made 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 than 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 3,1 for same loyality point.
Why i must make 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 if this is not my bets stratagy? But i want loyality point..... Conditions should be equal for all users.....For example some guy can easy made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month, because he bet on favorite. But i cant made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month because i bet on underdogs and have more risk. We are not on an equal footing with your rules. His stratagy is easier to get points. I hope you understand me.

I understand your point.

However, note that our VIP Rewards Program is already the most rewarding in the industry. We're basically giving to our most frequent bettors up to 1% of their bets stake back.

What that means is that we can't offer more. That's already the maximum. So if we want to apply your suggestion, we would have to give less rewards to those who bet on the favorite and the exact same rewards to those who bet on the underdogs. It wouldn't make any difference for you. You will still earn the same, but it will negatively affect those who bet on the favorites, they will get less.

The bottom line is that you're already receiving the maximum reward we can give so changing the terms will not earn you extra rewards.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Do you know why the Arsenal vs QPR game is taking so long to start settling?

Due to an outage by our data providers, we were unable to accept bets on this game during the final minutes of the game, and bets did not settle automatically within minutes of the game completion as they normally do.

All bets have now been settled and paid.
full member
Activity: 157
Merit: 100
Do you know why the Arsenal vs QPR game is taking so long to start settling?

I bet on a total for this game and I am also waiting for it to be graded.

Me too, waiting for grading. Last bet was slow graded too today
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
I deposited a few cents to test and they refunded it with the reason being a technical issue.
legendary
Activity: 1318
Merit: 1010
666 - slave 2 the grind -
Do you know why the Arsenal vs QPR game is taking so long to start settling?

I bet on a total for this game and I am also waiting for it to be graded.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Do you know why the Arsenal vs QPR game is taking so long to start settling?
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1000
Another question though. How do we receive the loyalty rewards?  After the threshold is reached. Thanks, excited I'm getting close.

See my previous post. All the details are here : http://directbet.eu/VIP.cshtml

Let me know if you have any more questions and good luck reaching the VIP Rewards Milestone !

sent u a PM, please reply
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1002
Have a questions about loyalty programm.
1. How bets coefficients is taked stock when loyality points are awarded? For exampe, i can bet 0,1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 or 3,1 and i have 1 point in both variant?! If so, then it is unfair. because i can make to many bets with coefficient 1,1 with a little risk than with coefficient 3,1.
Some books give you less loyalty points or smaller rewards, if at all, when you bet on the big favorites.
We don't do that. We award you with the same great reward, the highest reward in the industry, whether you bet on the heavy favorite or the underdog.
This is to your advantage ! We don't want to reduce the rewards for those who prefer to bet on the favorites.
But this is unfair. It is too easy made 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 than 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 3,1 for same loyality point.
Why i must make 1000 bets x 1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 if this is not my bets stratagy? But i want loyality point..... Conditions should be equal for all users.....For example some guy can easy made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month, because he bet on favorite. But i cant made 1000 x 1 LTC bets at month because i bet on underdogs and have more risk. We are not on an equal footing with your rules. His stratagy is easier to get points. I hope you understand me.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Another question though. How do we receive the loyalty rewards?  After the threshold is reached. Thanks, excited I'm getting close.

See my previous post. All the details are here : http://directbet.eu/VIP.cshtml

Let me know if you have any more questions and good luck reaching the VIP Rewards Milestone !
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Thanks!

How's about a free bet for the wait?

Check your e-mail.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1010
Have a questions about loyalty programm.
1. How bets coefficients is taked stock when loyality points are awarded? For exampe, i can bet 0,1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 or 3,1 and i have 1 point in both variant?! If so, then it is unfair. because i can make to many bets with coefficient 1,1 with a little risk than with coefficient 3,1.

Some books give you less loyalty points or smaller rewards, if at all, when you bet on the big favorites.

We don't do that. We award you with the same great reward, the highest reward in the industry, whether you bet on the heavy favorite or the underdog.

This is to your advantage ! We don't want to reduce the rewards for those who prefer to bet on the favorites.

2. My english is bad and i dont understand how i can get reward for my loyality point? Do i need to win a bet with my reward and only after that i recieve reward? Or i can simply receive it in my wallet at the end of the month?
Thanks.

You earn loyalty points for every bet that you place, no matter if the bet wins or not.

You can see the number of loyalty points that you currently have in the Bet Status page of any of your bets.

Once you reach a VIP reward milestone, simply order any free bet that you like, e-mail us the bet ID and we will fund it.

Please refer to http://directbet.eu/VIP.cshtml for more details and feel free to contact me for any further information.
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1002
Have a questions about loyalty programm.
1. How bets coefficients is taked stock when loyality points are awarded? For example, i can bet 0,1 LTC with coefficients 1,1 or 3,1 and i have 1 point in both variant?! If so, then it is unfair. Because the risks are different, but the reward (points) is the same in both cases ... I think it will be more fair if loyality points will multiplied on the bets coefficient. For example, If bets coefficient = 1,1 and i bet 100 LTC then i must have 1100 point.  If bets coefficient = 3 and i bet 100 LTC then i must have 3000 point. Something like that.....
2. My english is bad and i dont understand how i can get reward for my loyality point? Do i need to win a bet with my reward and only after that i recieve reward? Or i can simply receive it in my wallet at the end of the month?
Thanks.
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