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I may as well mention:

To date, although I've lost over $2500 all together at DirectBet, I have never received one Satoshi from your bonus program, nor do I ever expect to.

I would guess that this is the case for about 90% of your customers.

'Negotiate Odds' is worthless to me for multiple reasons:

1) If I accept lesser odds, in many cases I'm going to bet less.

2) I want to make a bet, not possibly make a bet. I'll look elsewhere.

3) If I send "Negotiate Odds" and the odds are now worse (which is the case about 80% of the time I'd estimate), I'm going to look elsewhere.
So 5 minutes later I find what I want on that play and bet it elsewhere.

Now I return to your site to cancel, and find that the odds have returned to my price, your system has auto bet it for me (as it's supposed to)and now I've double bet the play.

I could find the play elsewhere, and first go back to your site and cancel, then return and bet it elsewhere. But in the interval that may cost me the play at the other site due to movement.

4) It's pretty easy to forget about cancelling the "Negotiate Odds" play, especially if it's for much later or another day.
I may no longer want it.

5) As Peeps points out, if the line moves back, it's because your bot or scraper has recorded it moving back elsewhere. I can perhaps  get a better price at the "elsewhere" books.

6) The time going back and cancelling, etc., is a time waster and a needless extra task.

I could come up with more, but basically, "Negotiate Odds" benefits DirectBet, not this customer.

All of the above should be apparent to anyone who has spent time sportsbetting.

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I'm specifically referring to the unique 'Negotiate Odds' feature at DirectBet and not to other books.

At DirectBet, if you use 'Negotiate Odds' and set the minimum odds to the current odds (default), then your bet will be processed EXACTLY the same as selecting 'Firm Odds' except that with 'Negotiate Odds' you are given more options what to do in case your bet can not be confirmed instantly due to odds decrease.

 Negotiate is not the same as placing a firm odds bet with a sports book.

Negotiate is identical to an exchange except you are only playing against a bot. Your offer can be accepted immediately. If it's not accepted, then you can take it down or leave it up.

Not exactly. If you use 'Negotiate Odds' and set the minimum odds to the current odds (default), then it's not really negotiating, it is EXACTLY the same as selecting 'Firm Odds', except that you are given more options in case your bet is not confirmed instantly.

These options are :

1) Cancel and reject the bet (just like the "Firm Odds" does).

2) Accept the new lower odds.

3) Wait for higher odds to become available again.

This is also applicable before the start of the game. There isn't really any reason to use the 'Firm Odds' option anymore, that's because if your bet is not confirmed upon arrival you have the option to cancel it immediately which is the exact same behavior of the 'Firm Odds' betting option.

Another usage of the 'Negotiate Odds' option is to set the odds to an unrealistic number. Once again the purpose is not really to negotiate but rather to make a deposit. Then, once your bet is transferred, you can set the minimum odds to the current odds for immediate bet confirmation, similar to the way it works with typical deposit books.

Using negotiate is the same as making an offer on an exchange with only the book being able to accept it. In essence, playing against a bot that sees the changes in the game quicker than the player.

Personally, I like to make a bet and get instant confirmation/rejection. I don't want to be stuck with a stale line. I'm sure that others don't mind making an offer (negotiate).

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Would you please PM me your bet IDs, so that I can look into why they were rejected, advise you how to avoid such rejections in the future and see if there is anything that we can improve on our end ?

Generally, to avoid rejections you should use the Flexible Odds or Negotiate Odds betting option.

Consider this :

Instead of placing a bet at odds of 2 with the "Firm Odds" betting option, you can select "Negotiate Odds" and set the minimum required odds to 2.

Now if by the time your transfer is received the odds changes, then instead of getting a rejection you will have the following 3 options :

1) Cancel and reject the bet (just like the "Firm Odds" does).

2) Accept the new lower odds.

3) Wait for higher odds to become available again.

As you can see, using "Negotiate Odds" is superior to "Firm Odds". There isn't really any advantage or reason to use the "Firm Odds" betting option anymore.

I've had more bets rejected by DirectBet than any book I've ever experienced - non-steaming lines which I'm surprised anyone else is betting.
I know they're not all being bet here.

I imagine your line service is taking them from elsewhere and moving them as they're moving elsewhere. I'll guess from Betfair.
But if you're constantly moving on air like that and rejecting bets, you're losing a lot of business.

The book whose lines you're copying took a bet and then moved. You've taken no bet but moved the line anyway.

Perhaps you could consider being a little more lenient on these.

I waste a lot of time sending these, and then checking to make sure they're returned.

I sent you a bet 17 minutes ago, it was rejected, it seems for some reason there are no confirmations yet so it hasn't been sent back yet.

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If the message says 'Betting is suspended...' and you transfer a bet, it will most likely get rejected upon arrival, but not necessarily.

For example, it is possible that by the time your transfer is received betting will resume.

When that is the case the message continues by saying "If you already transferred your bet keep refreshing until it is 'Confirmed' or 'Rejected'".

Please PM me the bet ID and I will tell you exactly what happened.

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After I made a toto bet. After I refreshed the page I saw 'Betting is suspended for this selection or the event is over.'
I already sent my money, but it didn't came through (my wallet didn't sign it yet).
After a minute, I refreshed again, and my bet was confirmed. I thought it would be refunded?

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SF appealed and the game is continued tomorrow but you are technically right since a decision on the appeal wasn't heard until today. I'm still surprised that you are the only book keeping the 3 day rule since you will be grading bets differently than the others. Luckily the umps called it a rain out instead of a postponement or you would have run into a mess of problems.

This game was not postponed. An official result was declared yesterday and therefore all bets were settled based on the official result.

The 3 days holding rule specifically refers to cases where "an official result is not declared".

Following is the relevant information from our Rules page in regards to this game :
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All bets will be settled on the official result of the relevant governing body regardless of any subsequent disqualification or amendment to the result.
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DirectBet- How did you handle the Cubs/SF game Tuesday? It was bottom of the 4th with the Cubs batting and winning 2-0. The game was postponed and will restart Thursday. Are you holding the tickets for 3 days?  Everyone else has already graded it. Someone had to play this game with you.