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Topic: Directbet Stole 9.04 BTC - page 2. (Read 2100 times)

legendary
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July 08, 2016, 04:11:50 PM
#4
Quick summary of what I think happened and what I think should happen.  (I'm not involved personally)


I THINK Rangernation placed 15BTC which was doublespent.  (The bet lost, but he didn't lost the 15BTC)

Couple days later he placed a 9BTC bet. Directbet said tyvm, I'll keep that, cancels the bet due to "low fee" and left a message on the bet slip referencing the previous 15BTC bet,,

Rangernation creates account here, asks for refund, directbet says "email support" Rangernation says "why should I?"

Directbet ignores some more, Rangernation acts as if he doesn't understand anything except his money is gone.

Directbet accuses Ranger of being Hungerman, Rangernation appears more confused, DirectBet ignores some more.





I think the chances of Rangernation being guilty are very high.  If I were forced to pick a number right this second, I'd say greater than 96% chance he's guilty.

Also, I believe DirectBet runs their site with far more integrity than most Bitcoin gambling establishments.

However, the only way DirectBet can ethically keep this wager is if they can prove that there is a 0% chance Rangernation is innocent.  I think most likely it will be impossible for them to prove this and they have only themselves to blame for being in this situation again.

If DirectBet does not return the wager, or prove the chances of Rangernation being innocent is 0%, they should receive neg rep until they att least change something that will prevent this from happening again.  Otherwise, it will keep happening.  

DirectBet should be willing to allow themselves to be scammed many more than 20 times if it means not robbing one player.

Ways to fix problem:

  • Tell all players there's a chance they will be accused of double spend and their funds confiscated before they make every bet.
  • Figure out a good dispute mediation system that can't be influenced and make all players aware there's a chance they will be accused of double spend, and if they do someone besides DB will decide.  ( randomly selected small jury from pool of trusted users could work)
  • Quit accepting action on unconfirmed bets.
And they respond 0 times all the while posting their spam .000005 btc promos.

rangernation is an hacker who defrauded us, and not for the first time.

We already replied to him one week ago with our decision yet he is misleading you by stating that we never replied.

Since this was not the first time, and since we already gave him a second chance, we are not going to discuss this with him any further.

https://www.directbet.eu

^^^^Don't do that if you want to maintain public rep, you can't ignore ANYONE.







@twitchy, I was just saying ive posted here numerous times waiting for directbet to see the bump to return. They literally haven't responded to a single email, pm, or forum post. Crazy.

I dont think you know how it works or what happened. Lol.

I have posted here numerous times and they just post spam .000001 btc promos.

I sent btc, and their page said bet rejected and coin would be returned after 1 confirmation. So the bet wasn't Live. Or thats how I interpretted their site.   Now hundreds of confimrations later they didnt return or message.

I have no idea what their deal is, but ignoring players and holding their coin for long periods of time is not the key to success

They are accusing you of freerolling them in this bet: https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1JtH9TefRKwB9W71qeD2fAGGCp27PtWnnn
By double spending the wager and cancelling it once you realized it would likely lose.
(notice the transaction id doesn't exist.  that usually indicates it was pruned from the network bc the balance was spent in a different tx)


They stole your 9BTC wager because they think you stole 15BTC from them.

DB,

This is not the way to handle the situation.  

Stop acting like Betcoin.
legendary
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July 08, 2016, 03:32:26 PM
#3
And they respond 0 times all the while posting their spam .000005 btc promos.

rangernation is an hacker who defrauded us, and not for the first time.

We already replied to him one week ago with our decision yet he is misleading you by stating that we never replied.

Since this was not the first time, and since we already gave him a second chance, we are not going to discuss this with him any further.

https://www.directbet.eu
sr. member
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July 08, 2016, 02:35:05 PM
#2
Please include proofs and use this format :


What happened::

Scammers Profile Link:

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newbie
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July 08, 2016, 02:32:20 PM
#1
9 DAYS AGO


I made a bet and they rejected it. The webpage said it would return after 1 confirmation.

Several hours later they still didnt send anything so I posted on their forum:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15426448


I have since posted numerous times over 9 days and directbet responded 0 times via forum, PM, or email.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15446661
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15474354
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15481387
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15493252


Then they change the Bet page to some bs:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15453978


And they respond 0 times all the while posting their spam .000005 btc promos.




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