Pages:
Author

Topic: [Discussion] Our Successor in Bitcoin Forum (Read 514 times)

sr. member
Activity: 1736
Merit: 306
August 10, 2022, 03:30:29 PM
#37
First off, the idea of a successor taking over when most folks on here retire would be invalid. This isn’t a monarchy where matters of successors would take precedence. I don’t think that’s something we should worried about as people would find their way to the forum as we all once did. But I also think it’s worthy to worry about the future of the forum. Would people be willing to be technical or share knowledge in regards to bitcoin? Would there always be intelligent brilliant topics and posts?
hero member
Activity: 3164
Merit: 675
www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games
There are new members here all the time, it’s harder to have a high level membership due to merits but there are kids who are working towards building networks of people who would merit each other and grow, which is making them easier, still not as easy as back in the day when merit wasn't  a thing, you could have created an account and be a legendary one inside a month if you wanted to (would have been quite hard) because there wasn't even activity back then.

But I guarantee you, there will be kids who are under 20 years old right now, who would be 30+ years old in over a decade who do not have an idea about this place now, but will own a legendary account by that point.
hero member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 844
Because you don't have to give your account or wallet to your child because all of that he can make for free and you only need to teach him about how to make good and correct posts.
OP, I prefer the answer given by @G_Besar, because it can give your children a little freedom so that the children will not be burdened with a responsibility if they should not have had the time to take on a responsibility from anyone. Because basically the father is the person who must be responsible for teaching every good knowledge to his children by not inheriting the account and wallet directly for him.


But maybe I will allow someone to continue my account but it needs to rename my account into inthelongrun jr. or inthelongrun II.
This is also a good solution. But creating a nearly identical account name will also put a mark on the two accounts as specifically linked. Although it is permissible for any reason when you want to stop and pass the relay on to your child.



OP, if you have got the right answer for this. So it's a good idea to provide further feedback here, and if there's nothing more to respond to, I think it's better to just lock the thread. This is just a small suggestion from me.
hero member
Activity: 1862
Merit: 601
The Martian Child
Weird topics that randomly picked today. It's reminding me of my growing age again.

Anyway, I doubt my children want to assume this account. They will have their own interests in life and they should be busy with their own businesses and professions. And if they are also interested in cryptocurrencies, they can make their own accounts if they want to interact in this forum. But maybe I will allow someone to continue my account but it needs to rename my account into inthelongrun jr. or inthelongrun II.
hero member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 504
I was inspired by an activity carried out by a bitcointalk account on this forum. He donated BTC to buy a laptop from the proceeds he got from his signature campaign work and taught them about Bitcoin. For me that is an extraordinary thing.
For me it is also extraordinary because of someone's intention to teach others about Bitcoin. Regardless of which result he takes the money to buy the necessary necessities such as a laptop and so on.

Quote
Have we ever thought on the sidelines of our minds being bored while in front of a computer/laptop/android and so on, who will continue our activities in this forum? If our answer is children, can they be as consistent as we expect? Are they able to divide the time between formal education and time learning about Bitcoin?
Can we hand over the account password and private key to access our Bitcoin wallet from now on?
From all of your questions I begin to understand, which is that you have a desire to inherit all the things that you already have for your own children.
I think it's good, but it would be better if you inherit all the knowledge that your child can use in the future, including how to forum and also how to trade and how to keep a wallet. Because you don't have to give your account or wallet to your child because all of that he can make for free and you only need to teach him about how to make good and correct posts.
I thought that was all from me. I hope this helps.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 555
who will continue our activities in this forum? If our answer is children, can they be as consistent as we expect?

Let children be and remain in their category as children, the only impact you can give on them is to begin to get them aware of bitcoin and now left for them to decide which to adopt after which they are grown up, do your best but the decision is left for them, there have been similar cases whereby the father left physical assets behind for the children that later show no interest in them all and started their own new way of life quite different from the father, just as we can't predict bitcoin price same we cannot predict our children's decision or choice, but we must not be negligence in teaching them about bitcoin.
sr. member
Activity: 1587
Merit: 271
Enterapp Pre-Sale Live
Can we hand over the account password and private key to access our Bitcoin wallet from now on?

I want to find answers in this forum related to what I think.
What's the way out?

We can give whatever we have to the children if they understand what we are giving. If we give a book and a pen, then the children will write or at least scribble on the book. That is, he understands the use of books and pens.
Back to the topic of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a sophisticated technology that can only be accessed using a private key. The private key has an important function in this regard. If the private key is lost, of course all assets will be lost.
What we need to introduce to children is not Bitcoin, but technology. Provide an understanding of the importance of technology. If they already understand about this advanced technology, of course Bitcoin will be valuable to him. And he will take care of it if one day we hand him over.
This we refer to the history of one Pizza equal to 10000 Bitcoin. Of course at that time the Bitcoin holder who bought the Pizza thought that Bitcoin was not that important to him, so he would buy low-value goods with high-value advanced technology.
hero member
Activity: 510
Merit: 4005
To deny the inheritance of names and reputations is hyperindividualism tantamount to sociopathy.
Undecided

Maybe I've misunderstood you, but denying the transfer of reputation between individuals seems like a fine idea to me. Do you think that finding the appeal in meritocracy is sociopathic?
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1228
Playgram - The Telegram Casino
Have we ever thought on the sidelines of our minds being bored while in front of a computer/laptop/android and so on, who will continue our activities in this forum?
Descendants, but you are not obligated to bequeath a bitcoin account to him or her but you are certainly obligated to give your descendants a good understanding regardless if it is about bitcoin or something else. But I think you are obligated to pass your asset on to your children or whoever your heirs are if you wish, it depends.

If our answer is children, can they be as consistent as we expect?
If you are a mentor to your child on this forum, then I'm sure you will keep him consistent. They can get it right and will probably be faster than others [depending on how you educate them], but of course I think they should manage their own account rather than yours.

Are they able to divide the time between formal education and time learning about Bitcoin?
This is subjective, but if they are interested in bitcoin then you can expect a lot.

Can we hand over the account password and private key to access our Bitcoin wallet from now on?
Oh, come on, you should know bitcoin is valuable. As a father, you will definitely be responsible for the lives of your children, so the answer to this question simply depends on how responsible you are for the life your children deserve. If you work for them, then prepare everything from now on so that the assets you save can be used when you are gone.
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 1102
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Have we ever thought on the sidelines of our minds being bored while in front of a computer/laptop/android and so on, who will continue our activities in this forum?
If this question only refers to a boredom and stress of mind, then the answer is Take a break for a while without having to burden others in this case such as children and also others besides yourself.

Quote
If our answer is children, can they be as consistent as we expect?
And if you want to teach your kids about something (including how to forum), then look at how old the kid is.
Because if the child has not been able to accept the pressure or workload, then there is no need to force him to do anything except for learning for himself, because if the child is still very early, I don't think it is time for him to become independent unless the child has started grown up and has made it possible to be independent and continue what was inherited by his father.

Quote
Are they able to divide the time between formal education and time learning about Bitcoin?
Apart from the teacher, the one who teaches basic things such as dividing the child's time is his own father. So if you already have children, then take care of him and teach him how to allocate time for the things that you consider important because I believe children who are very early in age will not be able to allocate time for everything.
Especially for things he doesn't know and doesn't necessarily like (Bitcoin). So it would be better if the child was told to focus on formal education first without having to think about other things.

Quote
Can we hand over the account password and private key to access our Bitcoin wallet from now on?
It will be very dangerous if the child does not know how to use Bitcoin accounts and wallets. Now if you want to hand over your account password and wallet private key to the child, then what you have to make sure is that the child really understands what you are giving him and if he still doesn't understand, then it's better for you to teach him from zero without having to directly inherit what you already have now.

Quote
I want to find answers in this forum related to what I think.
I've given the answer, I hope it's helpful even though I never think about what other people are thinking.

Quote
What's the way out?
Some of the answers above might be a way out for you.
hero member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 787
Rollbit - The #1 Solana Casino
Quote
Because the Bitcoin transaction process is quite easy, everyone only needs to save the address and private key to keep it accessible anytime and anywhere as long as the internet is still around.
This is only a small part of the greatness that Bitcoin has because there are many other advantages it has.

I feel lucky to be in this forum because here I find various knowledge that I do not get elsewhere so I feel it is important to ask about something that is stored in my mind.
This forum is huge and all knowledge needs are available here.
Since the birth of this forum, some have predicted that the age of this forum will not last long, but in fact up to now, in 2022, the activity here continues to increase despite some changes to the rules. (very positive and worth doing)

Quote
Have we ever thought on the sidelines of our minds being bored while in front of a computer/laptop/android and so on, who will continue our activities in this forum? If our answer is children, can they be as consistent as we expect? Are they able to divide the time between formal education and time learning about Bitcoin?
Can we hand over the account password and private key to access our Bitcoin wallet from now on?

I want to find answers in this forum related to what I think.
What's the way out?
The sustainability of this forum must be maintained because what is available in this forum is very positive and I think what we get here must be brought into the real world because the benefits are extraordinary, specifically related to Bitcoin. Therefore, my mind said, who will continue it?

At first my mind said that if I create a topic like this, I will look like a mouse because of the content of this topic, thus making me have to hide in the dark from the great cats. So one by one I read each response.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
Can we hand over the account password and private key to access our Bitcoin wallet from now on?
Again, no one is handing over their private keys to children,

You are quite wrong about that.  Their are even systems designed for the purpose of facilitating this—although not nearly enough, in my opinion.  There are security engineering tradeoffs between conveying private keymat directly, and other methods.  The only way to convey a wallet indistinguishable from other wallets on-chain is to convey the private keys.

Although some Bitcoiners are long-term thinkers with plans for their heirs, a disturbingly high proportion are hyperindividualists who do not think of what comes after them.  (I have posted about this before, but cannot now find what I wrote due to this forum’s faulty, unreliable search function.)  When they die, their coins remain forever frozen on the blockchain.  The hype about “the greatest wealth transfer in history” is mostly nonsense, for in practice, most of the transfer is ephemeral:  Most real wealth will revert to the prior economic incumbents within a generation (and probably sooner), by various routes including this one.

I have been thinking about this for a long time...

and imo, no one should ideally be handing down their account password. Social platforms are not heirlooms which gets transfered or inherited.

In the context of condemning account sales, I think that I have said somewhere that the only circumstance in which I may convey access to my forum account would be to an heir.

For heirs to inherit their ancestors’ reputations was customary throughout all of history before modern times:  Indeed, it may even be said that the study of onomastics is the study of the nexus between identity, reputation, and familial continuity.  The various traditions in different cultures for surnames is partly based on the ideal that descendants inherit and carry forward a name.  This tends to be a larger factor in the upper classes than in the lower classes—a distinguishing mark of social class used to be a detailed knowledge of one’s ancestors more than two generations in the past, and the carrying on of their traditions; nonetheless, even for commoners, the customs of patronymics (or in some cultures, matronymics) attest the importance of carrying on the reputation of one’s ancestors.  In the upper classes, even up to royalty—or even in the degenerate modern “upper” classes, a designated heir oft even receives a name fully identical to an ancestor, with a number appended.  For a degenerate modern American example, vide William Henry Gates III (the full name of Bill Gates, the founder of Microsoft Corporation).

To deny the inheritance of names and reputations is hyperindividualism tantamount to sociopathy.  I absolutely reserve the right to designate a Nullius II, the titular “nullius”, with Bitcoin Forum uid 976210, if I see fit.  And in a cypherpunk world, theoretically, nobody needs to know.  If, hypothetically, I were to have a series of heirs who, by genetics and tutelage, evinced style and substance indistinguishable from mine, then at least in theory, the same apparent “nullius” could be posting here long after the block reward ends, with perfect continuity.  It is unlikely in practice—but it is theoretically possible.

A bigger question is how much of long-term thinker theymos is.  When I clicked on this topic title, I expected a post about the future continuity of the Bitcoin Forum itself.  Cypherpunks didn’t last, despite attempts to carry it forward to this day with cpunks.  I am pessimistic.
sr. member
Activity: 1362
Merit: 258
Vave.com - Crypto Casino
The digital world continues to evolve from time to time. Various works and innovations were born with various advantages to facilitate human

Have we ever thought on the sidelines of our minds being bored while in front of a computer/laptop/android and so on, who will continue our activities in this forum? If our answer is children, can they be as consistent as we expect? Are they able to divide the time between formal education and time learning about Bitcoin?
Can we hand over the account password and private key to access our Bitcoin wallet from now on?



who continue this forum there will be many new people who need information and curiosity about bitcoin itself
if our child can be our substitute why not because it is better for our child to continue than our account being sold to other people who are not necessarily the same as us, if our child is the one who holds the account we can still monitor the state of this forum
dividing time between schools and forums I think it's possible because there are many members of this forum who are still college students and I've met with student status
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1081
Goodnight, o_e_l_e_o 🌹


- The forum will last as long as admin pays the bills. .
You can also add that as long as bitcoin lasts...
You could also add that the forum will last as long as their is a demand from the members.
I have been on forums before and seen them die as the members dwindled away, a platform
can exist but without activity there will be no attraction for others to be engaged.

That is true, demand from members and activities keep forums going. Measuring by the criteria of activity or demand, it means this forum has a long future.

Think about the altcoin section where projects are being launched and patronised on daily bases.

Think about the promotion within and outside the forum offered via signature and bounty campaign.

Check the gambling companies and gamblers activities.
The goods and services aspects.

These factors point that the future of bitcointalk is bright.
hero member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 555
We all have our role to play in global Bitcoin adoption, it's not all about government policies and regulations. What Agbe did deserves all the accolades he's getting. I believe he has opened the way for more people here to follow. I do my part in teaching those close to me about bitcoin and Blockchain as much as I can.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1159
When wright brothers invented airplane, they never would have thought that one day jumbo jets would become a normal and when first computer was invented no one would have thought of  laptops or internet. One innovation breeds other. We are in pioneer era of blockchain and crypto and don't know how big it might turn in future or how new transformation of crypto will lead to new era of science and technology
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4788
You can hand over your knowledge and contributions by leaving your account alone. I've seen good new accounts surpass me in whatever measure you can think of Wink

i know some people think that merits and acitivity of user account stats wins favour for things like Sig campaigns thus makes people think forum usernames then have value to sell.
but if you are messing around in the game of selling accounts, you are playing the penny game wasting time for little return while missing out on where the big money lays.

Think it's really hard to step off the penny game for a lot of people. Some a matter of pure economics, where a penny is worth something (and they can't see beyond the penny or the dollar, or never thought it was possible).

i understand today there are many third world countries that see even $0.10 an hour as a good income. but setting their long term future of inheritance for their kids, to just inherit an account doing minimum income seems a lil short sighted.

nothing wrong with people trying to make some passive income now. but dont set career/lifetime/inheritance goal on just plodding along. as that is not a good inheritance plan to progress prospects of your offspring.
sr. member
Activity: 2240
Merit: 270
SOL.BIOKRIPT.COM
This forum still serve as archive of post from the pioneers of bitcoin to ethereum etc. This information are good enough to provide a syllabus for the history of cryptocurrency in the future. My only concern is the preparation of the forum when new users in large number come. I also wish the forum can provide app for phones, security for private discussions and allow transaction of cryptocurrency with app for users. The forum was the main platform that help altcoins growth at the beginning, although it does not look as it was
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 838
Because the Bitcoin transaction process is quite easy, everyone only needs to save the address and private key to keep it accessible anytime and anywhere as long as the internet is still around.
It is easy but two ways to make Bitcoin transactions.

From custodial wallets on exchanges for example. You are not the one who broadcast that transaction. The exchange does on behalf of you. They must approve your withdrawal request and broadcast that transaction for you. If they don't approve it, you will not be able to make that transaction because you don't own private key.

From non custodial wallets, you can directly broadcast your transaction without dependence on any third party. You own a private key and can do it by yourself.

Not your keys, not your coins
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1965
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Well, why do you want to do all the hard work for them... and then simply give them your account? Just take them by the hand and open a new account for them, then start transferring your knowledge to them, so that they will be equip to post "good" content on that account to earn a place in a signature campaign on their own.

The moment when you give something that you worked hard for to someone else, they will not appreciate it... and they will squander that opportunity... or simply mess it up, because they will not have the knowledge to post constructive posts.  Roll Eyes
Pages:
Jump to: