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Topic: [Discussion] The Merit System builds our personality - page 2. (Read 571 times)

legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1824
From my point of view, the most important aspect of the merit system is that it has restricted spam and forced new members to try harder and write better posts.
The real question is actually whether and why the merit system matters, and for whom?
It seems to me that for a large number of forum members, the number of merits and forum rank is important solely because of participation in campaigns and earnings.
That's fine if it forces new members to try harder and write better and then we can talk about responsibility and creativity.
Merits also encourage corruption and the trading of merits in the forum (fortunately there are not many such examples and mainly such cases are quickly detected).
We can even say that the merit system is unfair to new members because it was introduced recently but there is no perfect and ideal system.
It seems to me that the merit system has played its part in this forum and rewarded those who are the best and are trying the most  and is a good indicator of everyone's contribution in this forum.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 10802
There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
<…> Unlike before, wherein only spam posts and redundant topics will be seen for each thread. Nowadays, you will see that every user gives their effort to answer others problem.<…>
I’m not sure how far back in time the "before" goes, but I do find that there are redundant topics created with a certain recurrence. As I mentioned earlier on in another post, this is pretty much unavoidable, and there are plenty of circumstances that lead to that happening, although it’s not something too exasperating.

One thing that I do find that has space for improvement is actual dynamic dialogue, as opposed to a set of similar answers to a given OP.
full member
Activity: 868
Merit: 185
Roobet supporter and player!

You can find more useful threads/topics from those high merits earner on this thread though, List of useful Threads!. Anyway, thank you for emphasizing the merit system in your thread, good job.
Yes! I visited that thread also. Thank you for good reply. I think you are an example that merit system is not a hindrance to reach higher rank. I saw you before, you were full member. Look at now!

Nice thread OP, it would be really great information to all of the newbies to create useful threads. I have seen so many threads of beginners and it seems like they don't really think we'll on creating a thread, they are just creating cause it's free to do so, but anyway, it is understandable because as what I said they are the only beginner and they don't even know some stuff in the crypto world.

Well, they should think right now since many users here are aware of those beginners that has improvements rather than those spamming every thread specially bounty threads.
Btw, thank you for good feedback.

I'm not sure if this is some positive or negative effect of the merit system. This sounds like members here are less humanitarian without the introduction of merits and that they are helping so they will be rewarded with merits.

The initiative to help community who were extremely affected by pandemic for example would still be there with or without the merit system.

Don't misinterpreted the information sir! In that scenario, I did not talk about giving donations and making charities. Many higher rank user are helping newly users in ranking up by means of giving merit to their quality post. Since when we backtracked a year ago, no one cares with ranking system since you can goes up by activity only. Right now, we help other user to give their best shot by giving merit with their work.

Another merit discussion but this one has a good explanation and it did adheres with the behaviour of every users.

Haha. Is merit discussion overrated?

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I like to increase my knowledge on technological aspect when it comes to bitcoin and I know I am slowly coping with it.


As undisputed 2010 turbo said, "improvised, adapt and overcome". Human instinct always to adapt changes happening in our surroundings. So I think, even it ir really hard to catch up as long as we are determined, we can make it!

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Good explanation OP, Im sure you already gained some of those strenght you mentioned. Just continue what you started and youl become a high rank soon. But dont do it for merits. Do it to learn and help others.

Hoping for that day to become like your rank. Well, I am sharing knowledge not just by means of merit (well, I have also interest in ranking up since I already woke up from a stagnant member rank) but I want also to share my knowledge even in a small manner.

Btw, thank you guys for sharing some smerit and replying my thread. I don't care about the numbers. But I am really happy because you and fillippone (one of the prodigy users in BTT) noticed my thread.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1321
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Another merit discussion but this one has a good explanation and it did adheres with the behaviour of every users.

A typical poster who read and understand forum rule will surely be included on the responsible group. Having said that, there are few times they may forgot some rules bound here resulting to temp ban, but that's okay. Learning from mistake is also part of growing up.

The other characteristic such as creativity, tech wise, and even social humanitarianism are all depends on users knowledge. Like there are who created a fund raising goal which shows that even on simple aspect they can provide assistance.

I like to increase my knowledge on technological aspect when it comes to bitcoin and I know I am slowly coping with it.


Good explanation OP, Im sure you already gained some of those strenght you mentioned. Just continue what you started and youl become a high rank soon. But dont do it for merits. Do it to learn and help others.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1147
https://bitcoincleanup.com/
~ The spamming activity and shitposting gradually eliminated
Decreased because some newbies stopped/quit but shitposting was never eliminated. You can still read similar posts from ranked members.

~ A quality poster improves his way of replying or making thread since merit system requires a substantial (not copy pasted post) in order for to receive merits.
There were huge improvements but I still see some users who copy-paste posts for the sake of merits. They are lucky for receiving merit/s and not being banned.

~ Many forum users become more humanitarian. Some legendaries/merit source give their helping hands to the noobs and user who just starting in bitcointalk. Before, there is no unity in the forum. If there was, only few. But right now, we are all helping others to get their deserve rank, specially those who are working and sharing a lot in this forum.
I'm not sure if this is some positive or negative effect of the merit system. This sounds like members here are less humanitarian without the introduction of merits and that they are helping so they will be rewarded with merits.

The initiative to help community who were extremely affected by pandemic for example would still be there with or without the merit system.


full member
Activity: 742
Merit: 160
Nice thread OP, it would be really great information to all of the newbies to create useful threads. I have seen so many threads of beginners and it seems like they don't really think we'll on creating a thread, they are just creating cause it's free to do so, but anyway, it is understandable because as what I said they are the only beginner and they don't even know some stuff in the crypto world.

Good thing is that you encourage most of them to create good posts, there are many things that merit system brings to us just like what you have said, but the main personality that has built with this merit system is the creativity for me because we are trying to create new posts that can be considered as useful posts, we tend to think deeply or creatively so we can get even one merit.
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1206
Well said OP, this is great stuff and this is the way to encourage newbie to engage different topics and make constructive posts. Many of us want to rank up and there are a lot of forum members proved that the merit system is not a barrier to achieve our goals, from zero merits up to Legendary rank (Who are they?). This means that the merit system was unleashed those evil motives here in the forum or let say a toxic one.

You can find more useful threads/topics from those high merits earner on this thread though, List of useful Threads!. Anyway, thank you for emphasizing the merit system in your thread, good job.
full member
Activity: 868
Merit: 185
Roobet supporter and player!
Objectives in making this thread:
  • To show that merit system is in holistic approach
  • To enumerate the different aspects that build in every user with the merit system
  • To value the importance of merit system as an indovidual




Isn't ironic how does the system changes us a lot? Way back 2017, when the system in this forum was implemented. A lot of rally, contrast and other suggestions had been made. Many were gone and many were stopped making an activity in the forum. However, there are still users that continue to fight and accepted the challenge of the new system. As time goes by, many users appear to be more effective in constructing quality post.

There is really a huge impact when merit came on. The spamming activity and shitposting gradually eliminated. Users became good in posting and helping the community. We engage in different activities and we show our care in everyone, unknowingly that we are also slowly developing our personality.




These are the personality/behaviour/intelligence that develops in users within the Merit System:

  • Mental Aspect/Knowledge

Of course, this is the primary aspect that develops to a user. A quality poster improves his way of replying or making thread since merit system requires a substantial (not copy pasted post) in order for to receive merits.
Various informative topics have been also made in different sections of this forum. So, as a reader, it helps us to collect, see and understand different views on a problem/situation. Our ideas also increases because there are users shared tips and techniques for a certain thing like these:
[overview] LoyceV's useful data on Bitcointalk - @LoyceV
Everything you wanted to know about BTC futures but were afraid to ask! - @fillippone

  • Social Awareness/Humanitarianism

Many forum users become more humanitarian. Some legendaries/merit source give their helping hands to the noobs and user who just starting in bitcointalk. Before, there is no unity in the forum. If there was, only few. But right now, we are all helping others to get their deserve rank, specially those who are working and sharing a lot in this forum.

We talk a lot, give some helpful tips and strategies. Unlike before, wherein only spam posts and redundant topics will be seen for each thread. Nowadays, you will see that every user gives their effort to answer others problem.

We give our best just to help others, specially today that pandemic occurs in different parts of the world. Bitcointalk.org users take their part also to help using sigs and charities. These are some proofs about humanitarian act:
Project Covid-19 : An approach to support the Bitcoin community - @Royse777
Project Covid-19 Signature Campaign (Please update avatar and personal text) - @littlemouse
Bitcointalk Ranking-up pipeline- Those close to their next rank (lacking Merits) - @DdmrDdmr

  • Technological Aspect

Three years ago when I started posting and reading in this forum. I always glanced with others post but it seems like only few threads help me to understand cryptography. In fact, I wandered in different sites and studied in my own way just to go with others thought. But unlike now, there are many, many threads will help you in terms of technology. Just like how to protect you from cyber attacks, how to unable your telegram from inviting and so on.

In my third year of staying in this forum, I really appreciated the tips that other user gave and shared. Some users are also translating threads in my own language (Filipino) which really help probably new users to know more about cryptocurrency in easiest way.
Some examples:

[TELEGRAM BOT] Merit, Trust List, etc. [INFORMATION] - @GreatArkansas

[GUIDE] How to Create a Strong/Secure Password - @GreatArkansas

  • Responsibility

Because of the merit system, we are all become more responsible with our post. Though there are some that crossed some rules here, many users are still responsible about their posting. Because of merit system, spamming and shitposting lessen. Paid shillers gradually eradicated. Each users are giving their best shot to detect and search for cheaters and scammers. Well, this is really the main point of having a merit system.

But look at now, everybody who wants to earn a merit will make a quality post. We become more responsible as we give details, citing references and reducing the redundant replies.

  • Creativity

In my local board (Pilipinas), there are users who innovated the way of posting. They gave some tips and strategies in order to make a thread creative. Just like using colored headings, citing the summary and viewpoint of the thread, showing a vividly images and making a title which is catchy.
Thanks for cabalism, great arkansas, maus, finalshot and mk4. Just to mention them because they are helping lower rank in making a creative post.



Because of merit system, quality posts have been created. We are all helping each other and building our potential capabilities at its max. I believe that those cancers have been died in the forum and quality poster remains unstoppable. If we become a quality poster, we just not help this forum but we help ourselves to bring out the best that we can be.

Merit system is holistic approach. It does not just build the forum itself, it builds everyone in this forum.

Long live, bitcointalk.org
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