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legendary
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November 22, 2019, 09:47:33 AM
#31
Is there a website where I can view the wealth distribution of BTC and different altcoins?

I know such data are only estimates (address != holder, exchange wallets, etc.), but would still like to get a feeling of how different coins are distributed among its holders.
I think you forgot that one of the purposes of Bitcoin is privacy, so how do you expect to be having such an information? You can't have such information, but you can see transactions that are made on the Blockchain. If you have an address and follow it up Blockchain you will see all the money that is going in and out from that and maybe make an estimate of how that will be in that address.

But, if it's for you to get information on who owns the richest wallet and how much they have,then you're wasting your time because you're not going to get such an information, it doesn't work like that.

Even for other cryptocurrencies, there is nothing like that, they are all about privacy.
member
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November 21, 2019, 01:00:07 AM
#30
Not to mention potentially forgotten or lost coins among holders
"Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone." - Satoshi
sr. member
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November 20, 2019, 11:13:39 PM
#29
Is there a website where I can view the wealth distribution of BTC and different altcoins?

I know such data are only estimates (address != holder, exchange wallets, etc.), but would still like to get a feeling of how different coins are distributed among its holders.

You mean something like a gini coefficient with coins?

The closest thing that you will get to will be the rich list of addresses and so on. This is the only data that is available publicly. Whether or not these addresses represent actual holders of coins will be a completely different topic, although there are products such as walletexplorer that attempts to clarify who is actually behind addresses.

So yeah, it's difficult, and I think that thus far no one has a foolproof way to quantify distribution equality.
sr. member
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November 20, 2019, 09:27:53 PM
#28
I think not. Our crypto market is famous for money laundering and so wallet information is highly secure and certainly no one knows who holds much bitcoins.
You may only notice a lot of bitcoins being transferred from one wallet to another on the explorer system but you cannot tell who it is.
This market is famous for allowing its users to move their coins as they wish, after all that is their money and they can do whatever they want with it but that doesn't mean that they are doing anything wrong with it.

The myth that there is a lot of money laundering taking place in this market is being spread by the governments and the media to the population so in the future they may try to ban bitcoin or at least to try to heavily regulate it.
hero member
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November 14, 2019, 01:33:28 PM
#27
Is there a website where I can view the wealth distribution of BTC and different altcoins?

I know such data are only estimates (address != holder, exchange wallets, etc.), but would still like to get a feeling of how different coins are distributed among its holders.

there is no such website available in the market now however if you want to check your personal portfolio and your personal wealth in the field you can save everything in a blockfolio application.
But there are some websites only shows the richest Bitcoin addresses kind of stoves but I am not sure how much that is truth.
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November 14, 2019, 01:25:31 PM
#26
We only can find the distribution of nodes not the coins,as others said those addresses in the charts belongs to exchanges it means it belongs to many people using the same exchanges,if you intention is to know the distribution level of bitcoin its already spread all over the world but only to small percentage.
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November 14, 2019, 12:10:24 PM
#25
I think not. Our crypto market is famous for money laundering and so wallet information is highly secure and certainly no one knows who holds much bitcoins.
You may only notice a lot of bitcoins being transferred from one wallet to another on the explorer system but you cannot tell who it is.
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November 14, 2019, 11:59:35 AM
#24
I think the highest you can get is to check different coins and their pool in blockchain. So you could see how many of such coins have been distributed different. It is really going to be a tough task and might not be done manually.
sr. member
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November 14, 2019, 11:04:55 AM
#23
This is why I am thankful for the anonymous type of ceypto currencies.
Yeah, you wont know it.
How many wallets are there and how many exchange that gives different deposit wallet address.
If this is your project or you are up ro something then better leave it.
You wont go anywhere with those type of homework. Grin
legendary
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November 14, 2019, 10:14:45 AM
#22
Well, usually there are exchanges that holds most of the coins if you ask me. If you check the blockchains of all coins and see the biggest holders almost all the time it is the exchanges. Even on a coin like XRP you could see that there are exchanges at the tops aside from the owners, sure XRP is owned all by Ripples because they premined it and owned ALL of it but with over time exchanges started to get all of it.

So, no matter what you are trying to look at, if the exchanges started to get the top spot on a premined coin how would they fare in a regular coin that was either coin offering way or just regular publishing like it used to be. List is not something I really know because list is not easy to achieve, there are a ton for bitcoin but there are not that ton in other coins.
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November 14, 2019, 06:51:04 AM
#21
Is there a website where I can view the wealth distribution of BTC and different altcoins?

I know such data are only estimates (address != holder, exchange wallets, etc.), but would still like to get a feeling of how different coins are distributed among its holders.
You can only see this in your bank accounts! As for blockchain technology, they do not provide this service. That is also one of the reasons for the high value coins. Those who have lots of money often sell it to buy coins to launder money. That's why identities are never revealed.
legendary
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November 14, 2019, 05:35:03 AM
#20
Just remember that while sites like bitinfocharts list the top 100 addresses with the most coins, these addresses mainly belong to the exchanges, not individuals.

By definition if loads of people deposit coins to an exchange, the exchange will sweep the coins into another address that is held offline in a cold wallet.

So if you see that more than 50% of coins are held by a small group of "people", they're really held by a small group of exchanges.
legendary
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November 13, 2019, 05:51:36 PM
#19
they know very well that they cannot cash out their coins without bringing a great deal of attention to themselves and they cannot do it without crashing the market

They can cash out through otc desks, which more exchanges nowadays offer as service. It pretty much means that the exchange connects you to a buyer or seller where the transactions happen outside the regular orderbook. Based on the on-chain value transfers, it's pretty safe to say that the otc volume on a daily basis dwarfs the regular spot trading volume.

There also seems to be a strong correlation between the emergence of otc desks and fewer spontaneous large dumps. It's far more rewarding to use an otc desk because you don't suffer from slippage.
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November 13, 2019, 04:35:31 PM
#18
As for bitcoin, there's a link for the rich list, but I can't really find any materials for what address has what, etc. Most of them will be pretty unfair though, since exchanges have cold wallets that contain user funds and you can't classify it as their own funds.
While it's impossible to know perfectly the distribution of BTC or other cryptocurrencies, you can draw some conclusions from the "public" distribution (that's visible in rich lists and the stats I linked above).

Exchange dominance is, for example, one problem that's present in many altcoins, not so much in the case of BTC. If a high percentage of the existing supply is concentrated at an exchange, then this isn't looking healthy for two reasons. First, it indicates that the currency is mainly used for speculation purposes. And second, these coins become vulnerable to exchange hacking attacks - if one of their main exchanges is hacked, then a substantial proportion of the balance would get into the attackers' hands, allowing them to dump or even attack the currency (above all if it's a PoS currency).

Coins with a high "exchange dominance" have often a very uneven "public" distribution, and often you can see cold wallets in rich lists, often holding more than 10% of the total supply.

So the conclusion you can draw is: if the "public" distribution is relatively even (like in the case of BTC, compared to other cryptos) then the coin is healthier than if it's concentrated in few hands, even if you don't know if these hands are those of private investors, companies/institutional investors or exchangers' cold wallets.
it is true you can still get an idea about how coins are distributed by watching the addresses with the most coins, and while I have no evidence of this but I really believe that whales are not getting smaller and instead are getting bigger, they know very well that they cannot cash out their coins without bringing a great deal of attention to themselves and they cannot do it without crashing the market either and also I do not really think that they want to get out of the market since they are already holding the best possible asset in the world.
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November 11, 2019, 12:29:17 AM
#17
Usually, in the blockchains of most cryptocurrencies, you can see how many coins/tokens are on any address. But this does not prevent one person from having many addresses with any coins. Thus, you are unlikely to know anyone's welfare, because most cryptocurrencies are anonymous, which attracts many holders.
legendary
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November 10, 2019, 08:41:30 PM
#16
As for bitcoin, there's a link for the rich list, but I can't really find any materials for what address has what, etc. Most of them will be pretty unfair though, since exchanges have cold wallets that contain user funds and you can't classify it as their own funds.
While it's impossible to know perfectly the distribution of BTC or other cryptocurrencies, you can draw some conclusions from the "public" distribution (that's visible in rich lists and the stats I linked above).

Exchange dominance is, for example, one problem that's present in many altcoins, not so much in the case of BTC. If a high percentage of the existing supply is concentrated at an exchange, then this isn't looking healthy for two reasons. First, it indicates that the currency is mainly used for speculation purposes. And second, these coins become vulnerable to exchange hacking attacks - if one of their main exchanges is hacked, then a substantial proportion of the balance would get into the attackers' hands, allowing them to dump or even attack the currency (above all if it's a PoS currency).

Coins with a high "exchange dominance" have often a very uneven "public" distribution, and often you can see cold wallets in rich lists, often holding more than 10% of the total supply.

So the conclusion you can draw is: if the "public" distribution is relatively even (like in the case of BTC, compared to other cryptos) then the coin is healthier than if it's concentrated in few hands, even if you don't know if these hands are those of private investors, companies/institutional investors or exchangers' cold wallets.
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November 10, 2019, 06:03:47 AM
#15
What? Even without researching, I can say that there's no existing website like that simply because there's no essence of making at all because it will only cause threats for your security. Imagine that everyone of us knew that a single person holds 500 btc, what do you think will happen? Expect man hunt operations from now on lol Grin especially if the name of such person was stated.
Ucy
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November 10, 2019, 05:40:34 AM
#14
Is there a website where I can view the wealth distribution of BTC and different altcoins?

I know such data are only estimates (address != holder, exchange wallets, etc.), but would still like to get a feeling of how different coins are distributed among its holders.


Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency addresses are not like typical bank accounts numbers . An individual could have multiple addresses with no easy way of linking them to him/her. Banks accounts in most countries are link to unique identities. 
I think there are services that show what exchange/platform owns what, but I doubt they are effective in general. Besides lots of cryptocurrency are held on exchanges. It would be difficult to get the information unless you get them  from most exchanges.


hero member
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November 10, 2019, 04:01:41 AM
#13
For some coins like Dash and XMR, this isn't really possible. Their blockchain's ledger is private and you can't really calculate the richest or whatever relating to addressees due to their privacy protection.

As for bitcoin, there's a link for the rich list, but I can't really find any materials for what address has what, etc. Most of them will be pretty unfair though, since exchanges have cold wallets that contain user funds and you can't classify it as their own funds.

I did remember hearing or reading about a statistic though, that the top 100 addresses own something like 50 percent of all BTC. Not that fair from a real world metric, that the top 1 percent owns 90 percent of the world's money.
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November 10, 2019, 03:30:19 AM
#12
Is there a website where I can view the wealth distribution of BTC and different altcoins?

I know such data are only estimates (address != holder, exchange wallets, etc.), but would still like to get a feeling of how different coins are distributed among its holders.

I don't think there is one. But there were lists of the richest Bitcoin wallets that have been spreading. There is no big deal to those information though. Those wallets that are known to be the richest are definitely not owned by individual Bitcoin supporters or even early adopters. They are most probably wallets of institutional investors, companies, and exchanges. 
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