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June 06, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
#96
This is off topic from the thread title but it seems like everyone has gone there so I will too:  I do believe I learned in law school that alimony is on the downswing.  I think too many people realize it's very flawed.  Something as big as alimony will take years to get rid of or reduce but I think it's going in the right direction.
legendary
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June 06, 2014, 09:07:37 AM
#95
Anyone else noticing a global crack down on so called shadow banking and anti laundering bills lately?
Seems like they are waking up to the potential threats of bitcoin.
yes, many countries tried to avoid that problems causing by BTC through banning BTC such as China and India. I think BTC has more advantages. It is just the beginning of this new technology. People pay more attention to the drawbacks.
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June 06, 2014, 12:56:55 AM
#94
No kidding.   Even the male judges in the US system heavily favor women.   Even druggy women...

This is for good reason, the courts in the US have a financial incentive to favor them because of the Child Support Performance and Incentive Act of 1998. The states get from the federal government about 10% of whatever they collect in child support, and because men generally make more than women for a variety of reasons, women usually end up getting the children so the state makes more money. Even if custody of the child is shared equally and hence both parties have equal expenses, courts will often order child support simply because it makes them/the state money from federal kickbacks.

http://www.answerisland.com/child-support-kickbacks.html

That is interesting. As always follow the money.
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June 06, 2014, 12:28:27 AM
#93
No kidding.   Even the male judges in the US system heavily favor women.   Even druggy women...

This is for good reason, the courts in the US have a financial incentive to favor them because of the Child Support Performance and Incentive Act of 1998. The states get from the federal government about 10% of whatever they collect in child support, and because men generally make more than women for a variety of reasons, women usually end up getting the children so the state makes more money. Even if custody of the child is shared equally and hence both parties have equal expenses, courts will often order child support simply because it makes them/the state money from federal kickbacks.

http://www.answerisland.com/child-support-kickbacks.html
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June 05, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
#92
This is a bit silly considering anyone with access to money can put it anywhere. Gold, silver, cash ect.


This is not silly at all - it just add to the list of ways to hide money in case of divorce.


yeah, pretty much. buying gold, silver, or cash takes up a lot of space.. which makes it much more difficult to hide/conceal. with bitcoin, you could have millions of dollars and no physical object to hide.

Exactly. If you're hiding a significant amount of gold, silver, cash etc. you not only have a space issue (look up how much space/weight 1 million in gold/cash takes up), there is a higher possibility of loss given the options for storage when trying to conceal from the court. Bitcoin solves this issue, but I don't know how you would get by the review of financial documents by the court.
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June 05, 2014, 05:17:32 PM
#91
we need bitchcoin for this  Grin

It would just be another shitty hump and dump alt coin.  Grin
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June 05, 2014, 05:12:02 PM
#90
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The parent salary though would have to be confiscated from other tax payers and encourage having lots of kids. Also the government that provides the funds would most certainly want a more active role in their upbringing. Maybe the kids can spend one weekend a month and half the holidays with the bureaucrats. 
ouch I just imagined what the bureaucrats will do with those kids >:-O like the Roman emperors huh?

But seriously fulltime government operated daycares, what role can be more active than that?

yes it would lead to people having more kids that is the whole purpose  Wink

To fully comprehend the insanity of German politics, you have to know that daycares cost EUR 1000 per kid per month ... so it costs the same ... it is all about government wanting to indoctrinate their future slaves  Shocked

You see some parents may have weird opinions not in sync with public policy - as you can see on this forum  Grin

They are trying the same junk in the US. The funny thing is that the kids generally figure it out for themselves after leaving the indoctrination camps (schools).

People are smarter than the government minders think.
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June 05, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
#89
You do want to make sure you're buying the bitcoin well in advance of any troubles or divorce though.  If you have $100,000 in your bank account and suddenly it's gone and you claim you don't have any other assets, it's not going to work during divorce proceedings.

My Father in law is an attorney. They excel at finding that kind of stuff. You could only move currency in small amounts over a period of time.

What happens if you move it all over to bitcoin, keep it, but say you lost it all at an online bitcoin casino?  Never getting married but that would be my go to play.

Then you run the risk of gambling charges and perjury if they can prove otherwise.

You can always do the gamble from a jurisdiction where it's legal, a short vacation trip and some logs are enough to prove that

Do a 50/50 bet with the entire wallet. If you double your money, keep the profit yourself, share the original amount with your ex. If you lose, show the logs to the attorney and she gets 50% of zero.  Cheesy

Even better, marry in Germany where you can do a "church only" marriage: all the show but no legal ties. I have never understood why there is any payments after divorce anyways. The marriage is over and so should be all payments. If you quit your job you don't get a salary for the rest of your life, do you? Everything else is crazy and so are people who accept that sort of enslavement....

I think in one of the Nordic countries the law is such that divorce means, end of marriage, no mutual obligations of any kind. Social security or get a job...and you know what, suddenly men can risk marriage and having children again. Way to go!  Smiley

The feminazi movement in the US would never allow such a logical and sensible system.

No kidding.   Even the male judges in the US system heavily favor women.   Even druggy women...

oh man, this topic is starting to move into /r/mensrights on reddit. i kind of agree though. if i were wealthy before getting into a marriage, i'd definitely ask for a pre-nup.
legendary
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June 05, 2014, 04:39:09 PM
#88
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The parent salary though would have to be confiscated from other tax payers and encourage having lots of kids. Also the government that provides the funds would most certainly want a more active role in their upbringing. Maybe the kids can spend one weekend a month and half the holidays with the bureaucrats. 
ouch I just imagined what the bureaucrats will do with those kids >:-O like the Roman emperors huh?

But seriously fulltime government operated daycares, what role can be more active than that?

yes it would lead to people having more kids that is the whole purpose  Wink

To fully comprehend the insanity of German politics, you have to know that daycares cost EUR 1000 per kid per month ... so it costs the same ... it is all about government wanting to indoctrinate their future slaves  Shocked

You see some parents may have weird opinions not in sync with public policy - as you can see on this forum  Grin
legendary
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June 05, 2014, 04:37:49 PM
#87
You do want to make sure you're buying the bitcoin well in advance of any troubles or divorce though.  If you have $100,000 in your bank account and suddenly it's gone and you claim you don't have any other assets, it's not going to work during divorce proceedings.

My Father in law is an attorney. They excel at finding that kind of stuff. You could only move currency in small amounts over a period of time.

What happens if you move it all over to bitcoin, keep it, but say you lost it all at an online bitcoin casino?  Never getting married but that would be my go to play.

Then you run the risk of gambling charges and perjury if they can prove otherwise.

You can always do the gamble from a jurisdiction where it's legal, a short vacation trip and some logs are enough to prove that

Do a 50/50 bet with the entire wallet. If you double your money, keep the profit yourself, share the original amount with your ex. If you lose, show the logs to the attorney and she gets 50% of zero.  Cheesy

Even better, marry in Germany where you can do a "church only" marriage: all the show but no legal ties. I have never understood why there is any payments after divorce anyways. The marriage is over and so should be all payments. If you quit your job you don't get a salary for the rest of your life, do you? Everything else is crazy and so are people who accept that sort of enslavement....

I think in one of the Nordic countries the law is such that divorce means, end of marriage, no mutual obligations of any kind. Social security or get a job...and you know what, suddenly men can risk marriage and having children again. Way to go!  Smiley

The feminazi movement in the US would never allow such a logical and sensible system.

No kidding.   Even the male judges in the US system heavily favor women.   Even druggy women...
sr. member
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June 05, 2014, 04:27:40 PM
#86
Birth rates will regulate that. Places like ours, with feminazi regime, have low birth rates because it is too risky for men.

Places were men have rights, mostly Muslim countries, have high birth rates. So over the course of  a few generations, the "market" will prove what's right.  Wink

Sad only for men who live today, and would like to have families without risking death or enslavement.  Sad

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All the reasons above and additional ones go to show that marriages are just too much paperwork..lol.   If one parent quits their careers to raise the kids, then I get being owed money, but in court there are so so many scumbags it is not even funny

The German nationalist party (less than 1% of votes) is the only party with a root cause solution to this problem: parent salary. The government would pay a fixed rate of 1000 EUR/month for a full time parent. Then all this weird alimony shit would go away.

But of course this is not what the mainstream politics and media want, they want kids be raised in expensive daycares and both parents run in the rat race, to work for FIAT and make the system fat  Angry Angry Angry

Even the most useless work serves to inflate the gross domestic product, and that is necessary to counterbalance monetary supply inflation.

The parent salary though would have to be confiscated from other tax payers and encourage having lots of kids. Also the government that provides the funds would most certainly want a more active role in their upbringing. Maybe the kids can spend one weekend a month and half the holidays with the bureaucrats. 
legendary
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June 05, 2014, 04:16:11 PM
#85
Birth rates will regulate that. Places like ours, with feminazi regime, have low birth rates because it is too risky for men.

Places were men have rights, mostly Muslim countries, have high birth rates. So over the course of  a few generations, the "market" will prove what's right.  Wink

Sad only for men who live today, and would like to have families without risking death or enslavement.  Sad

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All the reasons above and additional ones go to show that marriages are just too much paperwork..lol.   If one parent quits their careers to raise the kids, then I get being owed money, but in court there are so so many scumbags it is not even funny

The German nationalist party (less than 1% of votes) is the only party with a root cause solution to this problem: parent salary. The government would pay a fixed rate of 1000 EUR/month for a full time parent. Then all this weird alimony shit would go away.

But of course this is not what the mainstream politics and media want, they want kids be raised in expensive daycares and both parents run in the rat race, to work for FIAT and make the system fat  Angry Angry Angry

Even the most useless work serves to inflate the gross domestic product, and that is necessary to counterbalance monetary supply inflation.
sr. member
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June 05, 2014, 04:06:22 PM
#84
You do want to make sure you're buying the bitcoin well in advance of any troubles or divorce though.  If you have $100,000 in your bank account and suddenly it's gone and you claim you don't have any other assets, it's not going to work during divorce proceedings.

My Father in law is an attorney. They excel at finding that kind of stuff. You could only move currency in small amounts over a period of time.

What happens if you move it all over to bitcoin, keep it, but say you lost it all at an online bitcoin casino?  Never getting married but that would be my go to play.

Then you run the risk of gambling charges and perjury if they can prove otherwise.

You can always do the gamble from a jurisdiction where it's legal, a short vacation trip and some logs are enough to prove that

Do a 50/50 bet with the entire wallet. If you double your money, keep the profit yourself, share the original amount with your ex. If you lose, show the logs to the attorney and she gets 50% of zero.  Cheesy

Even better, marry in Germany where you can do a "church only" marriage: all the show but no legal ties. I have never understood why there is any payments after divorce anyways. The marriage is over and so should be all payments. If you quit your job you don't get a salary for the rest of your life, do you? Everything else is crazy and so are people who accept that sort of enslavement....

I think in one of the Nordic countries the law is such that divorce means, end of marriage, no mutual obligations of any kind. Social security or get a job...and you know what, suddenly men can risk marriage and having children again. Way to go!  Smiley

The feminazi movement in the US would never allow such a logical and sensible system.
legendary
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June 05, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
#83
You do want to make sure you're buying the bitcoin well in advance of any troubles or divorce though.  If you have $100,000 in your bank account and suddenly it's gone and you claim you don't have any other assets, it's not going to work during divorce proceedings.

My Father in law is an attorney. They excel at finding that kind of stuff. You could only move currency in small amounts over a period of time.

What happens if you move it all over to bitcoin, keep it, but say you lost it all at an online bitcoin casino?  Never getting married but that would be my go to play.

Then you run the risk of gambling charges and perjury if they can prove otherwise.

You can always do the gamble from a jurisdiction where it's legal, a short vacation trip and some logs are enough to prove that

Do a 50/50 bet with the entire wallet. If you double your money, keep the profit yourself, share the original amount with your ex. If you lose, show the logs to the attorney and she gets 50% of zero.  Cheesy

Even better, marry in Germany where you can do a "church only" marriage: all the show but no legal ties. I have never understood why there is any payments after divorce anyways. The marriage is over and so should be all payments. If you quit your job you don't get a salary for the rest of your life, do you? Everything else is crazy and so are people who accept that sort of enslavement....

I think in one of the Nordic countries the law is such that divorce means, end of marriage, no mutual obligations of any kind. Social security or get a job...and you know what, suddenly men can risk marriage and having children again. Way to go!  Smiley

All the reasons above and additional ones go to show that marriages are just too much paperwork..lol.   If one parent quits their careers to raise the kids, then I get being owed money, but in court there are so so many scumbags it is not even funny
legendary
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June 05, 2014, 03:59:40 PM
#82
You do want to make sure you're buying the bitcoin well in advance of any troubles or divorce though.  If you have $100,000 in your bank account and suddenly it's gone and you claim you don't have any other assets, it's not going to work during divorce proceedings.

My Father in law is an attorney. They excel at finding that kind of stuff. You could only move currency in small amounts over a period of time.

What happens if you move it all over to bitcoin, keep it, but say you lost it all at an online bitcoin casino?  Never getting married but that would be my go to play.

Then you run the risk of gambling charges and perjury if they can prove otherwise.

You can always do the gamble from a jurisdiction where it's legal, a short vacation trip and some logs are enough to prove that

Do a 50/50 bet with the entire wallet. If you double your money, keep the profit yourself, share the original amount with your ex. If you lose, show the logs to the attorney and she gets 50% of zero.  Cheesy

Even better, marry in Germany where you can do a "church only" marriage: all the show but no legal ties. I have never understood why there is any payments after divorce anyways. The marriage is over and so should be all payments. If you quit your job you don't get a salary for the rest of your life, do you? Everything else is crazy and so are people who accept that sort of enslavement....

I think in one of the Nordic countries the law is such that divorce means, end of marriage, no mutual obligations of any kind. Social security or get a job...and you know what, suddenly men can risk marriage and having children again. Way to go!  Smiley
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June 05, 2014, 03:53:47 PM
#81
You do want to make sure you're buying the bitcoin well in advance of any troubles or divorce though.  If you have $100,000 in your bank account and suddenly it's gone and you claim you don't have any other assets, it's not going to work during divorce proceedings.

My Father in law is an attorney. They excel at finding that kind of stuff. You could only move currency in small amounts over a period of time.

What happens if you move it all over to bitcoin, keep it, but say you lost it all at an online bitcoin casino?  Never getting married but that would be my go to play.

Then you run the risk of gambling charges and perjury if they can prove otherwise.

All this is true, but have you been in court lately?   Most judges are literally like Dinosaurs...especially ones in Family Court.   They will have a hard time wrapping their head around BTC, and at the end of the day, they won't be able to understand what is going on.   They will just get a fair market value and slap the husband with a judgement.

If your soon to be ex-wife has enough money and is disgruntled enough to hire a forensic accountant, it may be time to waive the white flag.

Id she has enough money to hire one she has enough money anyway and doesn't need yours.  Cheesy

She may not need the money, but she will more than likely try to take it anyway.   I have seen ex-wives try to take away cars that ex-husbands need to get to work.   I have seen them claim that they are unable to work, and go back to get alimony extended after their exes made all the payments they were responsible for.   I have seen some serious atrocities and US courts allow them to get away with it...

That is a gender politics issue for sure. The courts are one of the few places they have an advantage right now. Especially in the area of child custody etc. It literally pays to marry someone with character.
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June 05, 2014, 03:50:22 PM
#80
You do want to make sure you're buying the bitcoin well in advance of any troubles or divorce though.  If you have $100,000 in your bank account and suddenly it's gone and you claim you don't have any other assets, it's not going to work during divorce proceedings.

My Father in law is an attorney. They excel at finding that kind of stuff. You could only move currency in small amounts over a period of time.

What happens if you move it all over to bitcoin, keep it, but say you lost it all at an online bitcoin casino?  Never getting married but that would be my go to play.

Then you run the risk of gambling charges and perjury if they can prove otherwise.

All this is true, but have you been in court lately?   Most judges are literally like Dinosaurs...especially ones in Family Court.   They will have a hard time wrapping their head around BTC, and at the end of the day, they won't be able to understand what is going on.   They will just get a fair market value and slap the husband with a judgement.

If your soon to be ex-wife has enough money and is disgruntled enough to hire a forensic accountant, it may be time to waive the white flag.

Id she has enough money to hire one she has enough money anyway and doesn't need yours.  Cheesy

She may not need the money, but she will more than likely try to take it anyway.   I have seen ex-wives try to take away cars that ex-husbands need to get to work.   I have seen them claim that they are unable to work, and go back to get alimony extended after their exes made all the payments they were responsible for.   I have seen some serious atrocities and US courts allow them to get away with it...
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June 05, 2014, 03:43:47 PM
#79
You do want to make sure you're buying the bitcoin well in advance of any troubles or divorce though.  If you have $100,000 in your bank account and suddenly it's gone and you claim you don't have any other assets, it's not going to work during divorce proceedings.

My Father in law is an attorney. They excel at finding that kind of stuff. You could only move currency in small amounts over a period of time.

What happens if you move it all over to bitcoin, keep it, but say you lost it all at an online bitcoin casino?  Never getting married but that would be my go to play.

Then you run the risk of gambling charges and perjury if they can prove otherwise.

All this is true, but have you been in court lately?   Most judges are literally like Dinosaurs...especially ones in Family Court.   They will have a hard time wrapping their head around BTC, and at the end of the day, they won't be able to understand what is going on.   They will just get a fair market value and slap the husband with a judgement.

If your soon to be ex-wife has enough money and is disgruntled enough to hire a forensic accountant, it may be time to waive the white flag.

Id she has enough money to hire one she has enough money anyway and doesn't need yours.  Cheesy
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June 05, 2014, 03:43:03 PM
#78
Husband accidentally loses private key........

That is actually one that might work. You can hide a piece of paper or a sd card pretty easily. 
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June 05, 2014, 03:39:08 PM
#77
You do want to make sure you're buying the bitcoin well in advance of any troubles or divorce though.  If you have $100,000 in your bank account and suddenly it's gone and you claim you don't have any other assets, it's not going to work during divorce proceedings.

My Father in law is an attorney. They excel at finding that kind of stuff. You could only move currency in small amounts over a period of time.

What happens if you move it all over to bitcoin, keep it, but say you lost it all at an online bitcoin casino?  Never getting married but that would be my go to play.

Then you run the risk of gambling charges and perjury if they can prove otherwise.

All this is true, but have you been in court lately?   Most judges are literally like Dinosaurs...especially ones in Family Court.   They will have a hard time wrapping their head around BTC, and at the end of the day, they won't be able to understand what is going on.   They will just get a fair market value and slap the husband with a judgement.

If your soon to be ex-wife has enough money and is disgruntled enough to hire a forensic accountant, it may be time to waive the white flag.
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